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| Its a nice thought but I think the chances of raising the money to buy enough shares to get a seat on the board are sadly nil.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I appreciate all you guys are trying to do with the ST, but the apathetic Trinity fans don't like to get involved, the first meeting quite a few years since regarding the new ground which eventually spawned SWAG was held with around a half dozen people attending.'"
I think you miss the point, its not apathy (although i do agree we have some of the most apathetic support in world sport).
There are two many unknows in this for anyone to get excited at the minute, and when SC commented that the purpose was to get our voices heard at boardroom level, that to me sounded wrong.
We should (and i think to a greater degree we are and we have) have our voices heard by buying STs and matchday tickets. If the money is there it should be spent on whatever brings in more support; that is the core aim of any BoD of any club. Without getting step 1 right, the club cannot attempt to go to step 2 and step 3 and so on and so forth...
I fail to see what adding another person to the board will add, equally i cant see how having a ST member on the board would have changed what has recently been publicised and what has stoked up this conversation again.
Yes i think the ST is a good idea, i have been in it since the start and i will continue to support it, i just cant see what it brings to the (board)table other than £50K.
If we trust the owner and the employees of the club to do their jobs - let them. If not they should be gone.
If AG trusts his team, they will reward him with a prosperous club, if they dont and he does nothing they will reward him with empty pockets and an ulcer.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Its a nice thought but I think the chances of raising the money to buy enough shares to get a seat on the board are sadly nil.'"
The question i repeatedly ask is once on the board, what would/could we do??
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I think you miss the point, its not apathy (although i do agree we have some of the most apathetic support in world sport).
There are two many unknows in this for anyone to get excited at the minute, and when SC commented that the purpose was to get our voices heard at boardroom level, that to me sounded wrong.
We should (and i think to a greater degree we are and we have) have our voices heard by buying STs and matchday tickets. If the money is there it should be spent on whatever brings in more support; that is the core aim of any BoD of any club. Without getting step 1 right, the club cannot attempt to go to step 2 and step 3 and so on and so forth...
I fail to see what adding another person to the board will add, equally i cant see how having a ST member on the board would have changed what has recently been publicised and what has stoked up this conversation again.
Yes i think the ST is a good idea, i have been in it since the start and i will continue to support it, i just cant see what it brings to the (board)table other than £50K.
If we trust the owner and the employees of the club to do their jobs - let them. If not they should be gone.
If AG trusts his team, they will reward him with a prosperous club, if they dont and he does nothing they will reward him with empty pockets and an ulcer.'"
Overall you're probably right but I'll put this to you, if we asked the speccis to donate/pay £2 each, do you think we'd get a 1,000 donating? I don't. Apathy is alive and kicking.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Overall you're probably right but I'll put this to you, if we asked the speccis to donate/pay £2 each, do you think we'd get a 1,000 donating? I don't. Apathy is alive and kicking.'"
Depends what you ask for it for?
Don't think for a minute i don't agree on the apathetic point because i do, but in relation to this issue, how can anyone reasonably be expected to "put in" other than blind devotion?
If this was a desperate call for cash a la the iconic bulls - fair enough i'd give the little fellas moneybox a shake.
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| How is this going people?
We've got one going at Hull KR and its tough but worse persevering with
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| If the trust can negotiate a seat on the board I'm in.
The only reason I am not at the moment is that I cannot see what real influence the trust has.
If I contribute I want to see some return.
I already contribute to the club's finances in numerous ways, but coughing up more for no influence.......no.
I may as well just send another 50 /100 quid to the club each year.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Overall you're probably right but I'll put this to you, if we asked the speccis to donate/pay £2 each, do you think we'd get a 1,000 donating? I don't. Apathy is alive and kicking.'"
The club have already asked for £2 with the lottery thing. Although it's good people arent falling over themselves to give. Why would ST be better?
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| As I understand things, the reasoning behind trying to obtain a seat on the BoD, is to give the fans a voice within the club.
Surely, if the club continue with fans' forums and take note of what is said, this is as good as it will ever get.
Even with a seat on the board, unless the ST was a major shareholder, the representative would not be privy to the really juicy stuff anyway and equally, there would be a fear that information shared with "our" representative would be passed to too wide an audience.
Although we all want to know everything that we can about the club, there is a business to run and too much public information would be detrimental to the running of the club ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"As I understand things, the reasoning behind trying to obtain a seat on the BoD, is to give the fans a voice within the club.
Surely, if the club continue with fans' forums and take note of what is said, this is as good as it will ever get.
Even with a seat on the board, unless the ST was a major shareholder, the representative would not be privy to the really juicy stuff anyway and equally, there would be a fear that information shared with "our" representative would be passed to too wide an audience.
Although we all want to know everything that we can about the club, there is a business to run and too much public information would be detrimental to the running of the club ?'"
That's pretty much how I see it too.
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If you are on the board of directors you are on the board of directors simple as that.
You'll have a single vote along with the rest of the bod on any issues that arise and require boardroom discussion.
If anybody from the wakey ST committee wants a chat with us we have no problems with that. Drop us an email at info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk and we'll bounce ideas between each other and help in any way we can I'm sure
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If you are on the board of directors you are on the board of directors simple as that.
You'll have a single vote along with the rest of the bod on any issues that arise and require boardroom discussion.
If anybody from the wakey ST committee wants a chat with us we have no problems with that. Drop us an email at info@roverssupporterstrust.co.uk and we'll bounce ideas between each other and help in any way we can I'm sure
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"As I understand things, the reasoning behind trying to obtain a seat on the BoD, is to give the fans a voice within the club.
Surely, if the club continue with fans' forums and take note of what is said, this is as good as it will ever get.
Even with a seat on the board, unless the ST was a major shareholder, the representative would not be privy to the really juicy stuff anyway and equally, there would be a fear that information shared with "our" representative would be passed to too wide an audience.
Although we all want to know everything that we can about the club, there is a business to run and too much public information would be detrimental to the running of the club ?'"
It quite clear to me why the club have not encouraged the trust to take a seat on the board, it would make it rather awkward to have the trust knowing what a shambles it all is.
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| Quote ="El Rey"It quite clear to me why the club have not encouraged the trust to take a seat on the board, it would make it rather awkward to have the trust knowing what a shambles it all is.'"
True, what a shame
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| Selling season tickets will be a mammoth task now.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Selling season tickets will be a mammoth task now.'"
depends how many want the club to succeed or fail. I'm in for the long haul I'm afraid and will go down fighting. Kirmond etc have shown faith in the club , so should we .
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| I'm not including myself in that, got my ticket as soon as they went on sale.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"I'm not including myself in that, got my ticket as soon as they went on sale.'"
me too, looks like we fastened into the front carriage
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| Join your trust
Invest as a fan base
Have your collective voices heard as one at the top
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Join your trust
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You heard the man - get signed up.
Mr Carter has already made steps to meet with the ST - and sees the role as important to the clubs future.
Watch this space!
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| Quote ="TRB"You heard the man - get signed up.
Mr Carter has already made steps to meet with the ST - and sees the role as important to the clubs future.
Watch this space!
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I thought this might happen
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| Quote ="TRB"You heard the man - get signed up.
Mr Carter has already made steps to meet with the ST - and sees the role as important to the clubs future.
Watch this space!
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Good news, he needs to be as open as possible.
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| Hopefully a seat on the board is now back as a possibility. Strike while the iron's hot and people will donate, myself included, if we're getting something in return. £50 x 1000 is a good chunk of the deficit. Let's make 'together we are stronger' actually mean something.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Hopefully a seat on the board is now back as a possibility. Strike while the iron's hot and people will donate, myself included, if we're getting something in return. £50 x 1000 is a good chunk of the deficit. [uLet's make 'together we are stronger' actually mean something[/u.'"
Well said, otherwise its just a few "words"
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| Let's all hope a real partnership between fans/trust and the club directors is one really positive thing to come out of this.
I sense more on here are wanting to come out fighting than give up.
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| Quote ="jacques"Let's all hope a real partnership between fans/trust and the club directors is one really positive thing to come out of this.
I sense more on here are wanting to come out fighting than give up.'"
That's what we've always wanted. The Trust has never wanted to run the Club, quite honestly it's not capable of running a Super League Club, but it has always wanted the supporters views to be taken into consideration when the Board makes decisions that effects its fans.
Michael Carter has said in his statement that he is meeting with representitives from the Trust and we are arranging to meet with him early next week.
Hopefully we will achieve a positive outcome for the Trust, the Club and its Supporters.
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