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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Every time you post you make me wonder!!'"
Dont wonder, you will get lost mate, just stick with us and it will work out
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Dont wonder, you will get lost mate, just stick with us and it will work out'"
im sure it will
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| Quote ="bren2k"I don't know - as I said, the detail gets lost in translation and when people are hurting after a humiliating defeat, they add their own nuances and infer that those people who weren't present don't care enough.
The way I read the OP, it was that Oli had made the whole statement, so I'm not surprised if others did the same.'"
The way I read the Post is the OP was told by mr Wilkes that the session was optional and wildcat26 has made his own observation has to how many players were there .how many we're there who knows but we all can draw our own conclusions on the low turn out.Personally I can understand the fans frustration.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Give up, three weeks from now we will all be happy
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Have you just plucked that statement out of thin air Bazzo ?????
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| This threads appears to me to be the usual reactionary ballcocks from Wakey fans rather than any considered analysis of a given situation. Overreact to success, overreact to failure. Would getting All the players in for an extra session mean we are more likely to beat Wigan or is it just a way to punish players and thus make the fans feel better with no beneficial effect on the team?
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| Seems to me like we've a lot crocked with a thin squad, and a coach who doesn't want to burn the young'uns unless he really has no choice. If that is the case, I can see it his way too.
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| Optional training is used by a lot of clubs. If you need extra training that's where you do it.
As long as there is enough 'regular' training it's not a big deal.
There are some highly strung people on here.
Can't wait for next game just so I van see how they react.
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| This threads a none starter, nothing to see here.
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| Twitter interactions with the fans can only end one way though......
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Twitter interactions with the fans can only end one way though......'"
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| Now I've gone back on the thread to read it properly....
why is no one commenting that, on top of normal training, a number of players, including Annakin who some have said has not had a great attitude in the past, and Wilkes who was dropped, have chosen to try and get ahead of the game and train harder to improve themselves.
They can't train 24 hours a day, but effectively, it's like you or I doing unpaid overtime at work.
It's all a matter of perspective.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"But why Bren?'"
As I said - I misunderstood the OP; cancel that bollocking - my bad!
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Login off?'"
Call me old fashioned, but I rather the players took to the field to convince us how much it means to them - rather than taking to social media to get the message across.
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| You can look at it two ways. Yes, players were given the option to have an additional training session and not all felt they needed it. It is telling that the ones who were there were the ones who perhaps aren't guaranteed choices. The other view is that the players have hit a pocket of poor form (started in February) and perhaps needed a break, and coming back on Tuesday feeling refreshed and with a bit more fire in their bellies might do more good than continually flogging the dead horse.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"You can look at it two ways. Yes, players were given the option to have an additional training session and not all felt they needed it. It is telling that the ones who were there were the ones who perhaps aren't guaranteed choices. The other view is that the players have hit a pocket of poor form (started in February) and perhaps needed a break, and coming back on Tuesday feeling refreshed and with a bit more fire in their bellies might do more good than continually flogging the dead horse.'"
I would agree with that.
Missing one training session is not going to make them "unfit" for the Wigan game, but it might make them more tired and slow down recovery time.
I also think menatlly, when you've had such a disappointment, flogging players can have a worse effect. Doesn't always work but we'll see what happens.
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| Too many keyboard coaches think they know best on here.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Too many keyboard coaches think they know best on here.'"
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| In the last 3 games we have leaked 117 points against 36 for.
An average of 39-12.
This average will increase on Sunday against Wigan and again the following weekend when Salford beat us.
I hope I am wrong. We had a team looking like a bunch of demented traffic police waving their arms around and making plastic dives to players who have passed the effortlessly.
I cannot accept what looks like a lack of spine or interest. I am no different to the rest of us armchair posting coaches but some of us must be reading the signs correctly.
I have to work my nuts off to earn my corn and I expect Trinity's players to do the same.
Only TT showed signs for the future.
I will not leave the ground before 80 minutes are up and if it's 50- nil and we have tried, they will get my applause.
Up the Trin.
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| No issues with players having optional training session for what is effectively a bank holiday, however, I think the time would’ve been better served getting them all in to review the performance on Saturday. They could then use the available time in the week to work on things that were done badly/well. It’s a bit of a free pass as the team are extremely unlikely to get anything from the Wigan game so pride is all there is to play for. I agree with putting the players who played last weekend in the firing line, putting young players out of SL match fitness against the best team in the competition would be a counterproductive measure.
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| How much and the type of training the players do, should be mapped out by the conditioning and coaching staff at the club, to ensure that players are "peaking" at the right time(s).
Too much physical training can be worse than too little.
Having said that, Mr Agar should know exactly who is and isn't putting in enough of a shift and then deal with it in the manner he deems best.
We look to be thin on numbers at the moment and we certainly haven't sorted out defence amongst our three quarters (plus some other areas), so Agar's options are limited.
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| They were all in the following day from 10am for 3 hours doing rehab and review.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"They were all in the following day from 10am for 3 hours doing rehab and review.'"
Fair enough.
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| Just going off an a bit of a tangent, RA and some of his team were booked into a hotel in Manchester for a night out on Saturday night but cancelled straight after the game and went straight home.
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| After leaving the final game on Saturday I saw Mathers walk across the car park with what appeared to be his Mum and Dad. I assume that he still lives that way. Based on that I would guess they did not stay in a hotel.
Maybe going home straight after the game was a good thing. Go home and think about what you've done. (Both good and bad).
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| As I understand it the players were never down to stay over, just the coach and his group.
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