pretty good read of the situation trb,cant disagree whith anything there, alot of it as been mentioned on here before usually given the cold shoulder by certain fans

you have summed up how many of us see it especially re fringe players. How is Molloy better than Walshaw or Lynne better than Cowling , what incentive is there for juniors to come to wakey ? Why let Jordan Grayston go and then have limited cover for Mathers ? Jordan was a prolific goalkicker too . Is there any truth in the Anakin for westwood rumour ? suppose all qustions we could ask at the Audience with Richard Agar at Carlton cricket on 22 May

We should be able to ask these questions at an audience with at BV. Seems an eternity since the last one.

I don't know if there is any truth in the Annakin for Westwood rumour but if Wakefield don't improve their current contract offer I certainly would not hold it against him if he moved on. It is quite insulting!

Annekin should be a priority. Lyne after a promising start had proved to be very disappointing and I don't understand the Molloy signing, enough cover even with mariano loaned out. Lee smith has been hit and miss and I sometimes get the impression that he thinks he's bigger and better than a club like Wakefield, having said that he's been moved around quite a bit so maybe a bit of slack can be cut. I'd like to see cowling get a sustained run we'll never know if he can maintain his performance from the saints game if he doesn't get the chance. I think he could well have what it takes. Don't get the mellars bashing, he's been contributing as much as anyone else since he got back in to the team. Don't know what walshaw a situation out of rugby league is (some here onviously do and seem to think its manageable) but again I think he could have what it takes given a chance. Was there any point in signing goulding jr if all were doing is farming him out on loan?

One thing I will say is we need all our best players on the park to be competitive but many of those above aren't considered the best in their positions and probably rightly so so it's going to be difficult for them to get a chance. I'd probably take a punt on cowling move smith to 6 and bring mathers back in.

Thought it was WISCA who used to organise these events. Now they no longer function I don't know if we will ever see them down at BV again... so best get up to Carlton CC and take the opportunity whilst its available.

I have been trying to come up with a post on this subject since Friday but TRB has taken away all my thunder , apart from . At the last evening with , RFA he said when referring to our own developed players , they needed SL games under their belt( and I think he said 20 or a dozen )before he could make an assessment on them . Such as Danny , Lucas , should have achieved that by now , how can they gain experience and learn from their mistakes if he won’t select them . I realise not all of our OWN produced players will actually make it to SL level but in the crop of the invincibles a very high percentage should have , With the anti tampering window being open I had hoped we would have heard some positive news by now on Retention and Re/recruitment , I must say I fear that it’s not going to happen , and yet again ask what’s happened to the “one of the most important days in our history” 1873 scheme principals and intensions.

Reece Lyne has had his chance for me, which he took well before his injury but he doesn't seem the same player since. It's now time to aford the same opportunity to "one of our own" in Cowling. Give him half a dozen games to develop some consistency and prove whether he is the answer at centre.

Mathers back to fullback, Lee Smith to Stand-Off and Cowling in the centre for the next few games.

Annekin has had his chance and grasped it with both hands and I will be very disappointed if we lose him. Let's not lose the 3 best prospects we have in Annekin, Cowling and Walshaw.
We need a certain amount of home-grown players in our squad and these 3 look the best option of allowing us to do that - It is essential IMO that we try our hardest to keep them all but they need game time or else they're not going to sign.

Thats just how i see it Fordy, lets hope it happens soon before its too late.

Said a few weeks ago, I want Cowling to have a run in the side, that was even before Lyne's loss of form, now it should be a given we call him back up to the squad imo. I've got a mate who's a Doncaster fan who watches them each week & he's always going on abut how classy Cowling is, he also says he's improved in his time playing with them. Granted it's not SL standard but still, he's consistently one of their best players on the pitch.

Watched some highlight's of him playing Keighley and he set up a try with an awesome offload, if it was a SL player making it on SKY, the comms would be waxing lyrical.

See no reason now for Cowling not to be in the team. Mathers at fullback, Cowling in at centre, Smith to stand off and Wood back on the bench. Job done.

Reece lynn if he's not playin at hull and you offer him a chance he grabs it so why give him 3yrs? madness! As for agars youth policy all he's done is decimate the confidence of a team that spanked wigan.If our juniors need 15/20 superleague games under their belt to be assesed for their suitability[which they won't get They better sign for wigan cos it dosen't seem to bother mr wane.Anybody remember a meeting at belle vue with elston and ag denying agar was the coach as still contracted to hulll. In that meeting elston said the new coach must be able to develop the youth policy "In the past wakefield have let too many young players leave thats gone on to great things like ben westwood" .So if theirs any truth in the new romour whats are policy now? westwood in and one of are best prospects who's just managed to force his way in out. How hypocritical ther lucky to have any young players.

Don't agree with that, Woody is a halfback and has done ok in at least one full game. Smith isn't a halfback and after his disaster at F/B has not IMHO earned a crack at S/O - had he I'd have given him a go but now it seems like rewarding failure.

Although not alone Wood was ineffective against Hull at the weekend so becomes a victim of circumstance i'm afraid, Smith needs to be in the team for his goalkicking. The other option is to put him at centre but i feel the time has come to give Cowling a go, so for me Wood drops to the bench to give a fresh pair of legs at dummy half, Aiton can always switch to the backrow if we want to keep him on the field for his defence.

Good point about the goal kicking - oh well.

So are you prepared to watch Wakefield get spanked every week while we play kids for 15 to 20 games?

Wigan have a different setup and have better players to support the kids when they come in. Our team may well have beaten them at youth level but that doesn't mean they are man for man better (though some are) and they have a constant conveyor belt of talent. There were kids already playing first team at Wigan rather than playing against U19s as they were significantly better.
It's not the same.

I'm pleased our kids are starting to get games.
Agar decided that he'd rather they get games in the lower league than sit with no game time as they wouldn't be regular players.

As far as I can see it, we are working with a first team squad of about 19. The rest are getting game time elsewhere.
1-16 squad numbers. Mariano was 17.
Wildie, Lyne, Annakin and Molloy are not playing elsewhere and are in that squad.

Cowling, Walshaw, Goulding and Trout are all getting game time at other clubs rather than just having the occassional game.

Can't see what is wrong with that. I assume Agar has plans for those playing "elsewhere" otherwise he would have got rid.

I don't think anyone is advocating sticking them all in at once and running the risk of significantly weakening the team but some of these players are as good as if not better than the ones currently in that 19 man squad.
How long will they be happy to be farmed out elsewhere to get gametime if they know they are not going to be given an opportunity when it arises??
Danny Cowling for me is as good as Reece Lyne, he is "homegrown" and when called upon has performed really well. Lyne has had his chance and at the minute looks to be suffering some sort of loss of confidence. Perhaps he is the one who needs to go out on dual-reg for a few weeks to regain that and we swap him with Cowling?

We need to give Danny a chance or we will lose him like we have other juniors. We then run the risk of not having the required number of home-grown players in our squad, and certainly not the ones of any decent standard.

If Cowling isn't in the side instead of Reece Lynn then its a total joke. MR Agar and his favourite boys it wouldn't suprise me if this wasn't so.

Correct on both counts.

I know I'm going to regret this but in an attempt to be reasonable with you...

I happen to know that RA is a Cowling fan and wanted to sign him as a junior at Hull. When he arrived at BV he looked at Cowling and said quite rightly he hadn't been developed physically by the old staff in a way he should have been. So RA got to work and through the close season and last year the lad was built up.

So all this said it is strange that he won't play a player he rates, has built up, has shown the right attitude etc etc for a player who hasn't.

I kind of understand why he sticks with certain players over others out of I suspect trust rather than favouritism. However in this case I really don't get why Mellors or Lyne are ahead of him. One hasn't the belief and the other is collecting a pension.

So I amazingly agree with you other than the favouritism bit which I think a fairly cheap and low accusation.

Exactly how I see it with Cowling and agree with the last sentence.

The biggest cock-up Agar has made is letting Tom Lillycrop go. Expect him in a Bradfors shirt very soon.

Not a chance.

what youl get with tom is fearless take up of the ball if thats not good enough fair enough

There is more to the game than that as I'm sure you'll agree and our qualified coaches probably didn't see immediate SL potential so had to let him go.