Nice to hear from the level headed Rhino's fans.

Why do you lot keep comparing forwards to backs. Are you really that limited in knowledge of the game?

For what it's worth once again you are using an example to try and make a point which completely contradicts your main point.

On the one hand we have Lee Smith allegedly not good enough for you, and not as good as other players you have. The argument been that he can't get in the Leeds team and Leeds have released him.

On the other hand we now have two players mentioned as better quality, Amor and now Ali, who coincidentally were deemed not good enough by Leeds and were released.

Which one is it?

Sorrt Mrs Smith, but you said that he was better than ALL of our current players and yet he is apparently not good enough to fill in accross any of the Rhinos back line.
I still maintain that you shoul be happy with your front row.
FWIW Smith is ok, but he is not at presnt a stand out player or, even the Mighty, Mighty, Rhinos, would not allow him out on loan.
This has been done to give the lad some first team rugby, nothing more.
We're glad to take him but, you do seem to over-rate your player and you were a little short on factual back up about Aiton.

If you wish to argue with your fellow Leeds fans please return back to your own board.

my thoughts too



it would only beneficial if we had something to aim for in winning

Think Aiton scored in the England v PNG game and they nearly upset the odds against in this game containing several Leeds stars at the time. Score was 32-22 so PNG not as bad as you think.

As far as Smith goes he has been woeful on all but 1 occassion since he has returned from RU. He has put on too much bulk? since RU which has made him slow. McD has given him far more opportunities to prove himslef than McShane so cannot complain. If he decides to leave 1 pie in Greggs he might make a good player.
I would do a swap happily, your Smith for ours.

I bet you would

Er, Aiton is a PNG international. But now your lack of knowledge has been exposed you now choose to say something along the lines of, "it's only PNG". The only country in the world that has Rugby League as it's national sport. The guy can't help where he was born. He plays for and captains his country an achievement that is acknowledged in any sport.

A couple of months ago you would have had a deal!

Dean Collis & Peter Fox are both significantly better than Lee Smith. And based on this season dare i say it our entire backline are in better form than him (Mather except)! But he'll do a job covering injuries and as previously said Smith has potential, he showed it before moving to Union.

just been on radio aire, said 'no dis-respect but i dont want to play with the 20s so i'll get first team time with Wakefield [uor whoever' [/uWow, thats nice!

player peaked then went RU

waste of time poor signing IMHO

No lose situation FACT if he plays well then fantastic, if he doesnt he goes back in a month and we know that should leeds want rid then we dont sign somebody on a 2-3 year deal who wont/cant perform for us.

Yes could be good for us but if not its only a months loan.Not looked anything like he did before he went to union but some times a change of club can make a differance even if its only a months loan.

Pretty much how I see it, if he doesn't pull his weight and look good he'll find himself sat on the sidelines for a couple of weeks, it's in his own best interests to impress, whether it's us or any other side.

hes that good he cant get a game in a very poor Leeds side bad move by Agar we want players who want to be at Wakefield send him back and give the kids a chance

Considering Gotcha is usually so pessemistic on our board it's strange to see his arrogance in one of his favourites' qualities. Hope Smith goes well for you.

Agree, although I'm not all that keen on this signing, especially when we have youngsters in our squad desperate for a chance. If we are keeping our options open regarding Mathers or any alternative then this is a sound move.

Please don't assume all Leeds fans are as arrogant as Gotcha has been on this thread.

As for Smith, Ive spoken to him a few times as I coach his son and he comes across as a decent lad.
Sadly he hasn't performed well (barring the odd one-off) for a long time. You'd have to go back to 2008 to find his last consistent run of good form and then he was almost on his way but his performance in the Grand Final that year got him another year before he went to union.
Sadly I just can't think of any area where he excels. He's not particularly big, not particularly strong, doesn't have outstanding handling and has most certainly lost his pace.
Gotcha was also being silly claiming the only reason he's not in the Leeds team because his face doesn't fit or because the other players are regular internationals.
His face fits fine at Leeds, he isn't a disciplinary problem at all, the problem is his ability and performances have declined sharply.
If he was as good as Gotcha claims then he'd have been first choice to replace Webb when he got injured. Also Hardaker, Watkins & Jones-Bishop can't be classed as internationals yet.

Its great for Leeds, we get Smith playing at a better level than u20's. Not quite sure what he brings to Wakefield other than steady-as-you-go.

It was probably a mistake going back to Leeds where the expectations of him were so high. A few good performances at Trin could reignite his career, although his fitness levels are a worry. For backs, speed is king.

On another point, to any Leeds fans (or coaches), please ignore the posters on here suggesting Aiton and Amor are any good. They're lucky to get a game at SL level. It's only because they play for lowly Wakefield, anywhere else they'd be in the 20s. Nothing to see here.

Without a doubt, very lucky.

But the players in front of Smith play for England so it's a similar situation. Apart from Webb of course but he is only selected to argue with the ref and give away penalties.

Anyone know the date for Amor if Leeds do want him back?

We don't.

In fact he's the only Leeds fan being arrogant (and rather pathetic) on this thread.
Thanks for your input