For me it's not the position we are in, it's the way we play. Almost every match has 'brainfarts' as one poster put it, dozens of them. I don't expect perfection. I accept we have come a long way compared to 18 months ago off the pitch, and a little way compared to 18 months ago on it. I truly believe we could be doing better than we are. I said 8th was realistic at the season start and I still think 8 to 10th is where we ought to be...but it is the dropped passes, alarming defensive lapses, crazy plays, bad kicks, passes across your own posts time after time etc etc...fundamental; and fire away that I'm an old moaner, but pro players ought, at least, be able to get very basic RL things right. So..yes, I'm pleased with our progress, but no, I'm not at all happy with how we play.

I've seen enough in the last 4 games and in the games at the start of the season to be reasonably content with how the season is now panning out. I can't see us finishing bottom and I reckon we are building a decent platform to build on next season. Agar must be as frustrated as we are when Mathers spills the ball in his own 20 or when Amor, I believe it was, knocks on from the kick off. I had a grumble halfway through the season but the signs for me are that we are turning it round and there could well be more to come from this team. If nothing else I personally have rediscovered a little bit of the buzz for the game.

Except the last three of course, that we won?

My god, 3 straight wins and a loss by 4 points in the defending champions back yard and your moaning like a damn wildebeast!

It's not perfect by any means, but if you had actually been bothered to peel yourself out of your armchair and actually attend the match, you would have seen some superb attacking play, a few monster hits and plenty of creativity from pretty much all departments of the side. Instead you don't attend and wax lyrical about the teams failings based on replays.

You mention in a previous post that the schoolboy errors will be a feature of our game until Agar goes. Perhaps it had crossed your mind that it's not Agar dropping the ball under the sticks or throwing passes into touch? Perhaps not.

Lighten up, get behind the team and start giving credit where it's due as well as criticizing and you may not come across as such a doom n gloom merchant!

Well since Sykes went to half back we can at least be creative and score trys all we need now is to stop letting them in.

Well said !

I have to ask, these wildebeast, are they well known for their moaning??

I suppose Wildebeast have plenty to moan about, what with the Lions and all.

I have to ask, these wildebeast, are they well known for their moaning??

Depends on whether you're talking Outwood Wildebeest or kettlethorpe (though latter are - technically- more Gnu, one suspects).

I think it's more when they're dying, but still - can't fault a man for whipping out a simile now and again!