Regarding other fans at games. There were a group of 8 Fev fans at the Wakey/Cas game last Friday. Not saying they did anything wrong but I know them and know they were at the game.

To be fair some Wakefield fans were injured as well. And they weren't all Wakefield fans kicked out either though were they? Both clubs will cop it for this incident as both sets of fans were to blame. Wakefield will get an extra carpetting because of the failed segregation issue and both CEO's will be asked why the whole pre-match issue was played out on club websites rather than discussed in person. Neither team will come out of it looking good and quite frankly neither should they.

Part of the problem is the pettiness between Elston & Wright, it needs sorting and now. Both are as bad as each other and need to grow up.

I think the segregation was mostly to blame. It created far too much of an 'Us versus Them' atmosphere. It's no problem segregating fans at opposite ends of the field, but in the same stand...??? A recipe for disaster.

Not true, as pointed out by sixtogo.

You're at risk of getting dizzy if you stay up on that high horse too long; the situation at BV on Friday night was a result of several errors of judgement and some idiotic behaviour from a small minority of drunken morons - nothing more, nothing less.

Both clubs should receive a rap on the knuckles for their failures to communicate properly in the lead-up to the game. WTW made some hasty decisions but probably for the right reasons; Dickie Wright stoked the flames by making a statement on his own website that amounted to "We're Castleford and we'll stand where we want." Equally, the governing body made a poor decision to stage an evening match on a bank holiday.

Given WTW's previously impeccable record for crowd behaviour, I'd feel a bit aggrieved if we get a fine; sometimes, the best you can do when something goes wrong is learn from it, rather than playing the blame game.

is james elston petty or just totally out of his depth? i take your point about wright, he's a chopper.

Do you think that if you say this often enough it will eventually become true?

Well it is true HTH.

Selling "general admission" tickets then making them not general admission is in fact illegal and false advertising.

Indeed. There are some rather desperate 'postings' on this thread aren't there??

HTH?

Oh dear

if they didnt do anything wrong why mention it?

Wrong again. General admission means you can stand anywhere unless that area is reserved. So theortically if WTW want to reserve an area for their fans they can. If you had have bought tickets that said 'North Stand' on them and then was refused entry for no good reason then that would be illegal.

I wonder what Elston means by "the clubs zero tolerance policy to unacceptable behaviour." wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wil ... n/2012/04/ To date my view on zero tolerance this season has been harsher than the one by the club and stewards so far. Let's hope times are a changing.

I wonder what Elston means by "the clubs zero tolerance policy to unacceptable behaviour." wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wil ... n/2012/04/ To date my view on zero tolerance this season has been harsher than the one by the club and stewards so far. Let's hope times are a changing.

and now you'll point me to where it was stated that away fans were not allowed in other areas. The initial release was poorly worded, but it never said that away fans were not allowed in other parts of the ground. This was clarified at about exactly the same time as Dicky Wrights dummy spit on a public website. If his legal team are so effective, maybe he should save some of that money and spend it on players? I did notice that when his statement was reported in the press they missed out the 'legality' references.



This is unclear, particularly in relation to what 'monitor this' refers, hence the clarification, no change in the intended meaning. Does it specifically say they will not be allowed in other parts of the ground?

Also are you sure that the tickets were for 'general admission' rather than ground admission, not that it matters as away fans always had access to all areas.

P.S. ooh, I got a bite from the Gronkmeister.

Really and under what authority will the RFL to impose such sanctions? The only one I could see out of that lot is number 4. The others would potentially discriminate against the club its sponsors and its fans.

Reading through some of these posts, it looks to me that some Castleford fans still feel aggrieved about being punished by the RFL for their fines regarding homophobic chants and bottles being thrown at an official and see this as an opportunity to try to make Wakefield look bad in the press to deflect from there own problems.

Lets just hope rather than point scoring, we actaully identify these people and ban them from going to Castleford or Wakefield and we learn from what happened so it's never repeated

Indeed, some are. Im having that same discussion on the VT with some of them.

How can tickets be general admission .
If so all and sundry would be able to sit in member seats in the east stand.
If a club were not able to exclude supporters from certain areas chaos would reign.
The club acted with the best of intentions.
What is wrong with advising as to people where the to stand to avoid what actually happened.
The solution is simple and not too expensive.
Erect a fence each side and rear of north stand.
I remember there used to be fences surrounding the old south stand and a transfer fee had to be paid to gain entry.
I do not advocate that but surely home supporters should have the option to pay a reasonable surcharge to gain entry to north stand in advance and members have automatic entry.
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You'll always a get a few who will go down that route.

Thats the main issue, learn from it and move on.

Drunken idiots were solely to blame for what happened last Friday. Yes things could have been handled differently by various parties but the only ones who were 100% responsible for the trouble are those that chose to get involved. It's not a cas issue it's not a Wakey issue it's an idiots who can't take their beer problem.

Think all clubs have a small minority like this....they plan a "session" around a game, get tanked up hours in advance...can't handle it and unfortunately what they do (and what we see) is similar to what you get in any town or city centre late at night anywhere in the country...except its the clubs that suffers.

Has anyone contacted either the club or particularly the rfl with what they know happened? The usual suspects on the cas forum are falling over themselves to tell tales to the powers that be. Of course they have done nothing again.

Maybe the under-18 year old kids serving beer had something to do with the irresponsible sale of alcohol and the ensuing riot.

Riot? Give up talking wet.

I kind of know what you are saying but I was almost certain there would be trouble. I said so to the Hull KR and Hull fans I work with, during our Thursday chats about our RL weekends, as I live in Beverley. The reasons I cited were; the club have a This City is ours slogan, the fans site is encouraging 'Let's go north' on the worst possible 1st night against rivals we don't have a good relationship with, and its a tight, dark, unsegregated stand. 70's style, late KO bank hol....it was all of it together that helped to cause the problem and tediously predictable in my view.

Oh and I would add to my previous comments, the Cas chairman stoking it up didn't help either