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| It's not really Mason's generally ability as a Prop that's in question. It's his repeated lazy,cheap shots and pointless head high ticklers that don't really hurt the target but give the opposition cheap yards. I'd not be too upset if he came back to Wakefield if he could cut out the dumb stuff.
Fozzard is very similar but does put a bit of effort into hurting the target.
A case of Dumb and Dumber I think.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Do you mean the 2 props that arnt your props,please Mason is twice the player that these 2 are .'"
Our wingers made more hard yards than Mason on Sunday, and more tackles.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'd have Keith back, he's just the type of forward every team needs, no one takes liberties with him and he backs his mates up no matter who or what the odds are in front of him.
He does the hard yards and drives the ball up often, his defence is borderline at times but that's the mongrel in him and that's what makes him competitive despite not being 6'3" and 18st.
When a coach puts Keiths name on the team sheet he pretty much has a guarantee of what he's going to get from him.
There's other ways of getting the job done but that's Keiths way!'"
I actually quite like Mason. Just think he could do a bit more taking on the line than he does. He's got a bit of mongrel in him, but a forward needs that.
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| Dont want to feed the Troll, but i would defo have him back, no question about it.
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| Quote ="Ray Price Is God"Dont want to feed the Troll, but i would defo have him back, no question about it.'"
Don't think that's the issue, he's an OK player - about the same as we already have so the more the merrier. What he isn't is this vastly superior being Boyd makes him out to be, he's far from that.
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| Have to disagree with some im afraid. Mason is a far better player than Korki, Amor and Higgins. I will reserve judgement on Hickey. Get rid of the clumsiness and he is not far from and England jumper.
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| Quote ="Richard1"Have to disagree with some im afraid. Mason is a far better player than Korki, Amor and Higgins. I will reserve judgement on Hickey. Get rid of the clumsiness and he is not far from and England jumper.'"
Totally contradicted yourself there, if he hasn't got rid of his clumsiness by now how can he be better - he's nearly 30!!! That's like saying if it had been on target it would be a goal...and?
Amor outplayed him and Higgins out muscled him. He looked like the player he is, an average battering ram who's never made it IMO. He lives off one game for Wales. Not even sure he's better than Korki and I don't rate Korki as high as most.
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| Quote ="vastman"Totally contradicted yourself there, if he hasn't got rid of his clumsiness by now how can he be better - he's nearly 30!!! That's like saying if it had been on target it would be a goal...and?
Amor outplayed him and Higgins out muscled him. He looked like the player he is, an average battering ram who's never made it IMO. He lives off one game for Wales. Not even sure he's better than Korki and I don't rate Korki as high as most.'"
Mason has more punch in attack and defence than our three imo. He has the game to be an England prop but the high tackles lead to penalties which cost you in internationals. Sorry Vast but i would have him in Wakefields team in front of those 3. Even with the odd penalty.
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| Quote ="Richard1"Mason has more punch in attack and defence than our three imo.'"
Don't agree at all - Kyle Amor for example, is a far better prop than Mason and has the beginnings of a decent offload game, even if it doesn't always come off.
Mason is tagged as an 'enforcer' and he's not even very good at that - he's a very average battering ram with absolutely no rugby brain whatsoever.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Don't agree at all - Kyle Amor for example, is a far better prop than Mason and has the beginnings of a decent offload game, even if it doesn't always come off.
Mason is tagged as an 'enforcer' and he's not even very good at that - he's a very average battering ram with absolutely no rugby brain whatsoever.'"
I agree with you on both points.
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| Yes he does, i am afraid it is mr 17000 that talks and says nowt ,well nowt with any substanceicon_lol.gif Mate you need to get a life FFS
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| Quote ="vastman"OMG how petty. One person doesn't want to join you in bumming Mr Average Mason and they don't know what they are talking about. How insecure are you, I am not worthy
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Have a bit more respect for another persons point of view mate. I think Mason is a strong player who is a better prop than most of what he have at Wakefield imo.
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| Quote ="Richard1"Have a bit more respect for another persons point of view mate. I think Mason is a strong player who is a better prop than most of what he have at Wakefield imo.'"
What planet are you on?
That's exactly what I was asking for myself and those who don't rate Mason. The reply was to big head Boyd not you
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Yes he does, i am afraid it is mr 17000 that talks and says nowt ,well nowt with any substanceicon_lol.gif Mate you need to get a life FFS
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Irony meter on overload - pure comedy gold there.
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| Quote ="vastman"What planet are you on?
That's exactly what I was asking for myself and those who don't rate Mason. The reply was to big head Boyd not you
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This is an open forum so people ARE ALLOWED their own opinions whether you agree or not. Please grow up and stop using this site to attack others. It's pathetic!!
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| Quote ="Richard1"Have a bit more respect for another persons point of view mate. I think Mason is a strong player who is a better prop than most of what he have at Wakefield imo.'"
Totally agree, mate.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Leeds need a prop or 2 Peacock past his best Bailey a thug and dont rate Kylie Leuluai'"
Seeing them week in week out - Peacock has been immense at times this season, Bailey does a job and Kylie is underrated as consistant as they come. Wouldn't swap them for any of your front row.
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| Quote ="kitten1"This is an open forum so people ARE ALLOWED their own opinions whether you agree or not. Please grow up and stop using this site to attack others. It's pathetic!!'"
I can but laugh otherwise I'd cry, I really feel for you
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| Quote ="kitten1"This is an open forum so people ARE ALLOWED their own opinions whether you agree or not. Please grow up and stop using this site to attack others. It's pathetic!!'"
People are indeed allowed their opinions, but if they want to hold those opinions without challenge or argument, they probably shouldn't post them on an internet forum.
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| Quote ="bren2k"People are indeed allowed their opinions, but if they want to hold those opinions without challenge or argument, they probably shouldn't post them on an internet forum.'"
Agree ever opinion does have two sides and therefore should be address but just because one persons is different to yours does not give anyone the right to insult them. Whether you do or do not like mason it shouldn't call for this immature behaviour. Debate like adults, not with all this name calling.
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| Quote ="Richard1"Have a bit more respect for another persons point of view mate. I think Mason is a strong player who is a better prop than most of what he have at Wakefield imo.'"
Not that I need to speak for Vastman but I think you'll find BOYD2 started the name calling and being disrespectful, until then it was a difference of opinion
Quote its good to see a sensible poster that knows what they are talking about unlike the Vastman who has posted 17,500 times off POO'"
the follows it up with this
Quote Yes he does, i am afraid it is mr 17000 that talks and says nowt ,well nowt with any substanceicon_lol.gif Mate you need to get a life FFS'"
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| Thanks to Bren and Shifty, I was begining to doubt myself (which is rare ).
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| Quote ="kitten1"Debate like adults, not with all this name calling.'"
Who died and made you god?
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