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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Have to disagree there. I was expecting no more than 3000.
4500 was admirable considering it was a bank holiday weekend and Catalans didn't bring any fans at all.'"
4,500 is shocking a pathetic showing from the apathetic Wakefield public.
It was poor yesterday but they are a good side and given the lack of quality and experience there will be many more days like yesterday. That this team has given us days like Hull away, Cas away and Hull KR at home is amazing and should be treasured. Keep the faith cos you never know when the next nail biting, against all odds victory is going to come!
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Eric, i think your way off the mark with Howarth. Today he was injured after 5 minutes which caused him to make some uncharacteristic errors.
If you watch alot of our tries down the right hand side they come through Howarth's passing. His timing and pass selection is superb. The lad is very intelligent and reads the game well and generally is always supporting the ball carrier.'"
I agree. He appears to have a very good understanding with Chris Dean on the pitch and they often combine very well.
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| Lee was poor yesterday but he did come up with the best moment of the game for me.
After Catalan scored just before half time off the forward pass he turned to the touchjudge and said
"I don't know why you are even here, you don't even do anything and that was a disgraceful decision."
It certainly put a smile on my face because he said what we all think about touchjudges.
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| howarth is decent in attack but his real strength to me is his defence. the lad is a tackling machine, i have not seen the stats for the season but reckon he must be right up there, and very rarely misses his one on ones.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Tired looking performance for me, I think last week took allot out of the tank physically and mentally.
The ref certainly did us no favours, but we didn't do ourselves many favours neither.
I'm getting fed up of listening to the terrace experts spouting off about a 6 or 7, bent on slating what we've got and when questioned unable to suggest any players that would come.
We've got what we've got, get behind them.
The only concern I have is that if JK signed Moore because of his kicking game, then surely it's time he got a chance, because we are desperate for one.
As for hickey, he's weeks away for fitness, so again, we have to go with with what we've got until the big fella is up to it.
Thought korki was excellent.
Message to lupset airport.
Get yourself down, you won't be half as disappointed as you think, the effort is there, unlike last year.'"
Tiredness is a poor excuse for bad discipline and poor attacking options, we had a full 7 days recovery so i don't buy into that, i worked 60 hours one week, had a week off, hit the Gym every day, painted the living room, kitchen and re-plumbed the bathroom and still turned up for work bushy tailed and bright eyed, and i earn a lot less, i will not slate the players effort, but to sign players and to move other players from their natural position to cover players weve signed to play is in my eyes Stupidity, i only hope Frankie is ok for Friday or Tommy will be playing in the Second row or Prop......
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| Quote ="J.T"4,500 is shocking a pathetic showing from the apathetic Wakefield public.'"
Given the start of the school hols, crappy weather, big footy match, total absence of travelling suppport and lack of any additional marketing, I think 4.5k is quite respectable.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Given the start of the school hols, crappy weather, big footy match, total absence of travelling suppport and lack of any additional marketing, I think 4.5k is quite respectable.'"
Agree. I said to my Dad on the way to the game that Town being in the play off final would have an impact on the gate.
The gate also tallies with the fact that we probably have around 5-5,500 core support which again aint bad all things considered.
Whether we like it or not, people watch a winning team. If we manage to stay in SL and can recruit a few extra quality players, start winning more consistently then gates will go up.
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| Totaly agree re Howarth good player and will only get better.
Thing I found strange yesterday, we made 4 subs in the last 6 mins, especially as we were 1 player down in Howarth.
Thats 25% of the subs allowed not used for 74 mins of the game.
For me Davey had an excellent game and without Murphy they would have gone in at half time out of sight (they were anyway).
Re the ref, Feriol should have had at least 10mins a blatant attack at Korkis head, the ref had only just spoken to him for using the elbow in the tackle the play before.
Total lack of bottle from the ref.
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| Come the francise decisions it will be interesting to see which of our lads are snapped up by Widnes. Think Howarth and Johnson (prop) are nailed on to be offered contracts back at their side of the pennines.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Come the francise decisions it will be interesting to see which of our lads are snapped up by Widnes. Think Howarth and Johnson (prop) are nailed on to be offered contracts back at their side of the pennines.'"
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| Quote ="tamargrace"should have stopped in then...real supporters were inside .. wonder if u r a closet man u fan????
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Totaly agree re Howarth good player and will only get better.
Thing I found strange yesterday, we made 4 subs in the last 6 mins, especially as we were 1 player down in Howarth.
Thats 25% of the subs allowed not used for 74 mins of the game.
For me Davey had an excellent game and without Murphy they would have gone in at half time out of sight (they were anyway).
Re the ref, Feriol should have had at least 10mins a blatant attack at Korkis head, the ref had only just spoken to him for using the elbow in the tackle the play before.
Total lack of bottle from the ref.'" said the same on an earlier post. think ferriol may hear more from the rfl. a deliberate attack at korki's head followed up by a cowardly display from his team mates. give the lad his due though. got back up. took the next drive. thought he was excellent yesterday. played with the power and aggression that some of the others seemed to totally lack. thought jk's summarisation was spot on. need to start doing the things we have been doing with the resources we have. see you at salford. t.w.a.s
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| Quote ="cool4kats"said the same on an earlier post. think ferriol may hear more from the rfl. a deliberate attack at korki's head followed up by a cowardly display from his team mates. give the lad his due though. got back up. took the next drive. thought he was excellent yesterday. played with the power and aggression that some of the others seemed to totally lack. thought jk's summarisation was spot on. need to start doing the things we have been doing with the resources we have. see you at salford. t.w.a.s'"
Yes, lots of respect to Korki he was clearly hurt and staggering around for a few moments after the incident.
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| Quote ="J.T"4,500 is shocking a pathetic showing from the apathetic Wakefield public.
It was poor yesterday but they are a good side and given the lack of quality and experience there will be many more days like yesterday. That this team has given us days like Hull away, Cas away and Hull KR at home is amazing and should be treasured. Keep the faith cos you never know when the next nail biting, against all odds victory is going to come!'"
The offiicial crowd was a lot higher than it appeared from the terraces.
If we had 4500 yesterday there must have been nearer 8000 last week for Cas.
The whole afternoon was a let down.
Once again the lads ran themselves into the ground, but we have to find some different attacking options.
We only have the kick on the last, or barge over from short range.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The offiicial crowd was a lot higher than it appeared from the terraces.
If we had 4500 yesterday there must have been nearer 8000 last week for Cas.
The whole afternoon was a let down.
Once again the lads ran themselves into the ground, but we have to find some different attacking options.
We only have the kick on the last, or barge over from short range.'"
You ought to be thankful we get to the last. Did we get to the last in the first half? - completion rate was shocking
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| Quote ="cool4kats"said the same on an earlier post. think ferriol may hear more from the rfl. a deliberate attack at korki's head followed up by a cowardly display from his team mates. give the lad his due though. got back up. took the next drive. thought he was excellent yesterday. played with the power and aggression that some of the others seemed to totally lack. thought jk's summarisation was spot on. need to start doing the things we have been doing with the resources we have. see you at salford. t.w.a.s'"
from the rfl??/ no chance..anything against wakefield is ok ! weak ref caused all the problems.
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| Quote ="tamargrace"from the rfl??/ no chance..anything against wakefield is ok ! weak ref caused all the problems.'"
Slightly over the top, but I did think that the weak officiating gave the Catalans forwards carte blanche to ramp up the dirty tactics; if the ref doesn't get on top of that kind of play early doors, the players will just take the p1ss - they duly did.
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| Thought this was just about the worst showing of the season for us, all be it against a very good French side with a very nice mix of powerfull forwards and classy backs. You do have to question the refereeing at times though, seemed to be plenty of headhunting going on and a card wouldn't have gone a miss I dont think, but having said that Glen Morrison needs to remember he is the club captain and no amount of chelping at the ref or touchy is going to help us, he is better than that and let himself down a bit in my opinion.
Thought that we showed some signs, but looked pretty toothless in atack - reminded me much of the Wigan game and despite scoring a few points we didnt look very dangerous with the exception of Mariano running good lines we look toothless. Defense was poor and we struggled with the powerful pack we played against, no shame there I suppose though looking at the personell for both sides.
Think we still have plenty of work to do, and shouldn't dismiss the loss because we have picked up a few wins along the way this season - we still look woeful when close to the the opposition line and our kicking game (both defensivly and attacking) needs to be worked on a lot, maybe Moore is the answer - probably about time he had a go on the basis of him having a kicking game if nothing else.
No shame i getting beat by this side, they will be pushing for top 4 I reckon come the end of the season - lets just hope it was a hangover from the big effort against Cas the week before and we get back on horse against an up and down Salford side next week.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"<snip>but having said that Glen Morrison needs to remember he is the club captain and no amount of chelping at the ref or touchy is going to help us, he is better than that and let himself down a bit in my opinion<snip>'"
It's brave to bring that up, since Morro is so good for us that he's almost beyond reproach, but I have to agree. He does have a tendency to lose his rag and in the past few games, has got involved in a bit of pushing and shoving; I refer specifically to Doncaster, Cas and this week against the Catalans.
Maybe he's carrying an injury or is mentally fatigued? I'd be tempted to start him on the bench on Friday - give him a bit of a rest.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It's brave to bring that up, since Morro is so good for us that he's almost beyond reproach, but I have to agree. He does have a tendency to lose his rag and in the past few games, has got involved in a bit of pushing and shoving; I refer specifically to Doncaster, Cas and this week against the Catalans.
Maybe he's carrying an injury or is mentally fatigued? I'd be tempted to start him on the bench on Friday - give him a bit of a rest.'"
Sunday's game and at Donny for sure thought he got involved in stuff that as captain he should be calming down rather than inflaming these situations. That said you are spot on about how important he is to us which is why it would be a great shame if he ends up getting himself, binned/sent off/banned.
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| He always got involved like that at Bradford aswell, it's just how he plays. JD was just as bad for it.
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| Gotta disagree with opinions on this post on the size of the crown. 4500 on a poor day weatherwise, with a weakened side out and (a first in my 40 yrs of watching Trinity) not a single away fan present as far as I could see; fair to middlin' I'd say. Contrast that to the Challenge Cup crowds at Salford, Bradford, Huddersfield and others. Wakey fans have put up with a lot over many years and picking a game or 2 to pass on is not a hanging offence. I think our support has been pretty good this season in spite of near extinction and the strong likelihood we are shafted from the start. We should not fight amongst ourselves, we should continue to rally behind the momentum that Andrew Glover at least appears to be creating. It's in it for the long haul as far as I can see and missing a few games is inevitable for us all
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Gotta disagree with opinions on this post on the size of the crown. 4500 on a poor day weatherwise, with a weakened side out and (a first in my 40 yrs of watching Trinity) not a single away fan present as far as I could see; fair to middlin' I'd say. Contrast that to the Challenge Cup crowds at Salford, Bradford, Huddersfield and others. Wakey fans have put up with a lot over many years and picking a game or 2 to pass on is not a hanging offence. I think our support has been pretty good this season in spite of near extinction and the strong likelihood we are shafted from the start. We should not fight amongst ourselves, we should continue to rally behind the momentum that Andrew Glover at least appears to be creating. It's in it for the long haul as far as I can see and missing a few games is inevitable for us all'"
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Gotta disagree with opinions on this post on the size of the crown. 4500 on a poor day weatherwise, with a weakened side out and (a first in my 40 yrs of watching Trinity) not a single away fan present as far as I could see; fair to middlin' I'd say. Contrast that to the Challenge Cup crowds at Salford, Bradford, Huddersfield and others. Wakey fans have put up with a lot over many years and picking a game or 2 to pass on is not a hanging offence. I think our support has been pretty good this season in spite of near extinction and the strong likelihood we are shafted from the start. =#BF0040We should not fight amongst ourselves, we should continue to rally behind the momentum that Andrew Glover at least appears to be creating. It's in it for the long haul as far as I can see and missing a few games is inevitable for us all'"
No-one disagrees with that - and I think every last man-jack of us is willing us forward with every sinew. From what I've seen the criticism is almost entirely constructive - i.e. trying to find things that we can improve on - rather than knocking any of the attempts to improve matters. There will always be exceptions, but there aint many!
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