|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 25 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2011 | May 2011 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The way I see it for Wakey is that your best option is to take on the RFL head-on.
The running away from the Lion analogy is a good one, unfortunately for you guys it appears that we have got our trainers on and made a big head start. Your best option is to turn around and shove a stick down the Lions throat.
I think the RFL are on very dodgy ground the way they play fast and loose with the rules, this winter has seen yet more shady dealings going on in London and a flagrant disregard for any form of their own rules in Wales.
Ted should stop wasting time taking cheap shots at Cas, both clubs and both sets of fans have spent far too much time taking lumps out of each other this year and as already alluded to in another post have taken their eyes of what should have been the target and that is the corrupt and morally bankrupt RFL.
There is no point in playing nice with the RFL any more hoping they will give you a break - they wont, and rest assured I know the time will come when Cas are back in the cross-hairs again.
I'm no lawyer but I think the best use of any money you have in the next few months would be spent on the best legal advice you can get.
Again, rather you than us, but I would much rather someone put the Lion back in its cage before it trashes what is left of the games credibility and equity.
Merry Christmas to all you Wakey fans, and good luck for 2011.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Shameless"The way I see it for Wakey is that your best option is to take on the RFL head-on.
The running away from the Lion analogy is a good one, unfortunately for you guys it appears that we have got our trainers on and made a big head start. Your best option is to turn around and shove a stick down the Lions throat.
I think the RFL are on very dodgy ground the way they play fast and loose with the rules, this winter has seen yet more shady dealings going on in London and a flagrant disregard for any form of their own rules in Wales.
Ted should stop wasting time taking cheap shots at Cas, both clubs and both sets of fans have spent far too much time taking lumps out of each other this year and as already alluded to in another post have taken their eyes of what should have been the target and that is the corrupt and morally bankrupt RFL.
There is no point in playing nice with the RFL any more hoping they will give you a break - they wont, and rest assured I know the time will come when Cas are back in the cross-hairs again.
I'm no lawyer but I think the best use of any money you have in the next few months would be spent on the best legal advice you can get.
Again, rather you than us, but I would much rather someone put the Lion back in its cage before it trashes what is left of the games credibility and equity.
Merry Christmas to all you Wakey fans, and good luck for 2011.'"
would rather shove its up is a£se,
many a true word said there, we are going to have to meet them head on if there's any chance, no good pleading for a fair deal it just will fall on deaf ears
it would of been better if all clubs that are in the same situation had got together and fought them off as a unit rather like you said back bite at each other
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1313 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="snowie"would rather shove its up is a£se,
many a true word said there, we are going to have to meet them head on if there's any chance, no good pleading for a fair deal it just will fall on deaf ears
it would of been better if all clubs that are in the same situation had got together and fought them off as a unit rather like you said back bite at each other'"
I think you would find support in the most unlikely of places if you were to take on the RFL over their biased selective processes and expansionist unequalities...
I believe there would be more unity than division, when it is one clubs existence instead of anothers you will always back your own, whereas if it is fans versus injustice then it is a different ball game.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11589 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Shameless"There is no point in playing nice with the RFL any more hoping they will give you a break - they wont, [uand rest assured I know the time will come when Cas are back in the cross-hairs again.[/u'"
You must have been given assurances already then by the RFL that even though there is no certainty of your new ground being built on time that Cas are already a safe bet for a franchise next year.
Quote ="Shameless"I'm no lawyer but I think the best use of any money you have in the next few months would be spent on the best legal advice you can get.'"
Alternatively we can just sit back and let Cas be the guinea pigs and let them bring a test case, apparently they have more money than us but not enough to build a new stadium.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1313 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="chissitt":Alternatively we can just sit back'"
You are Ted Richardson and I claim my fiver....
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 11589 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1313 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Why would we need to bring a test case? AFAIK nobody has yet been ejected....
I would think the comment by Shameless re money towards legal action is because of us having a perceived jump on you, BUT who knows what the RFL will do.
p.s. Speedy is well worth £3 of anyones money!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="chissitt"a014.gif what a wonderful piece of selective editing you are speedy and I claim my £1.50p
'"
you know its a pound in that land
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1313 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2015 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| And a borrowed pound in yours?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15521 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| This talk of legal action against the RFL is pure fantasy - WTW literally don't have a pot to pee in, let alone sufficient funds to engage a barrister with the requisite specialist knowledge to take on the sports governing body. Neither, I suspect, is there any appetite to do so, given that it would effectively signal the end of the relationship between the two organisations and therefore, snuff out what faint hope we have of getting back into SL after we're booted out in 2012.
Don't be under any illusion that we'll get our day in court; we won't.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3124 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2016 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| In a couple of weeks time an all parties investigation takes place in the Houses of Parliament into the governance of football. Maybe it is time we all lobbied our lcal MPs into one for Rugby League. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Nigel and co` have to attend and try to explain the rules and regulations of P&R .
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 48326 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2023 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The ones the clubs voted for?
"Dear MPs, when we voted for this licence system, and when we voted to keep SL at 14 clubs for 2012-14, knowing that that meant one club would lose its licence, we didn't think it would affect us. Please can you fix it for us to escape the consequences of our own decisions. Yrs, WTWRLFC, age: 127"
?
Yep, I can see that succeeding
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="tb"The ones the clubs voted for?
"Dear MPs, when we voted for this licence system, and when we voted to keep SL at 14 clubs for 2012-14, knowing that that meant one club would lose its licence, we didn't think it would affect us. Please can you fix it for us to escape the consequences of our own decisions. Yrs, WTWRLFC, age: 127"
?
Yep, I can see that succeeding
'" I see you kept both them wooden spoons for stirring
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9974 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Nice to see boxy upsetting pickles in today's express!
Whilst I wouldn't disagree with his sentiment, perhaps now is not the best time to be ruffling his feathers!!
Oh forgot he's a cas fan!!!!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5286 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| What does it say in todays express?? Box on pickles?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 7494 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2016 | Apr 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"What does it say in todays express?? Box on pickles?'"
What kind of paper do you think it is?!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 10926 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2021 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="tb"The ones the clubs voted for?
"Dear MPs, when we voted for this licence system, and when we voted to keep SL at 14 clubs for 2012-14, knowing that that meant one club would lose its licence, we didn't think it would affect us. Please can you fix it for us to escape the consequences of our own decisions. Yrs, WTWRLFC, age: 127"
?
Yep, I can see that succeeding
'"
PS- Oh and I completely forgot to mention that it's ok to change the rules to keep everyone else in that you want to. Love, WT
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9974 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I would imagine that the rfl's policy on all clubs having to agree to all it's policies or they would be kicked out of SL would be as arsy to overturn as the famed police practice of kicking the $hit out of suspects until they signed a "confesion" back in the 70s was.
You can't hold a gun to peoples heads to get them to "sign" and expect it to stand up in court.
Pointless explaining that to tb, he ain't a good listener!!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4171 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="kinleycat"I would imagine that the rfl's policy on all clubs having to agree to all it's policies or they would be kicked out of SL would be as arsy to overturn as the famed police practice of kicking the $hit out of suspects until they signed a "confesion" back in the 70s was.
You can't hold a gun to peoples heads to get them to "sign" and expect it to stand up in court.
Pointless explaining that to tb, he ain't a good listener!!'"
your sort of missing one vital point, ie what a franchise actually is, the clubs are signing up to be part of whatever the rfl says it is or wants to be, you cant buy a neros franchise and then sell paint!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9974 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| But the rules have to be lawful! They also have to follow some logic
And I would say that some of them aren't legal, and there is liitle logical thought. Therefore you could make a legal appeal.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15521 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="kinleycat"Therefore you could make a legal appeal.'"
I refer the right honourable gentleman to my previous answer; it's never gonna happen!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9974 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2019 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| And I refer the right honourable gentleman to the word "could".
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4171 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="kinleycat"But the rules have to be lawful! They also have to follow some logic
And I would say that some of them aren't legal, and there is liitle logical thought. Therefore you could make a legal appeal.'"
nope they dont, sorry, and yes you could, but you would lose, and never stick a chance of being selected again, thats the point you see, this isnt the same sport it was, its a franchising system basically sl has skys money we want it, so we stop playing rugby league and play a new game called super league, a lot of people missed the significance of that at the time, including me!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="kinleycat"And I refer the right honourable gentleman to the word "could".'"
Assuming we have money ( yes, I know it's difficult to comprehend Wakefield Trinity having money) I would not want us to throw it away on a court case we could never win in a million years. I'd much rather we save any money to use on a competitive squad for the Championship, for that is surely where we are bound.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 14302 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2018 | Sep 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="chapster"nope they dont, sorry, and yes you could, but you would lose, and never stick a chance of being selected again, thats the point you see, this isnt the same sport it was, its a franchising system basically sl has skys money we want it, so we stop playing rugby league and play a new game called super league, a lot of people missed the significance of that at the time, including me!'" I have made this point over and over again.
The RFL hold almost all the cards.
A club runs all the risks you say plus they can't compete in any RFL comp whilst being sat against them in any court case they take out against the RFL.
A club may still win the case they take out BUT it would completly destroy them as a realistic member of the RFL as they would get shaffted every single time the RFL could manage it.
Taking the RFL to court win or lose would be the biggest act of comiting suicide any club could undertake IMHO.
It stinks I agree but the RFL have it all sewn up very nicely.
|
|
|
|
|