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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"He'll have a belter against Hull next week, here's hoping anyhow!
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never the last time we played wakey
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| It would seem Justin Morgan has had John Kears pants down by having wakey take a fair bit of Cooke's contract off our books!
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| The bloke is not SL quality - he was very very poor today.
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| Offers nothing, except to other teams who can spot the weakness he brings to our team.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"It would seem Justin Morgan has had John Kears pants down by having wakey take a fair bit of Cooke's contract off our books!'"
Maybe but Cook had KR'S pants down for far longer than he will ours.
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| So by the sounds of it from this thread the opinion is we take Cooke out of the team and everything will be alright??
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| Quote ="WakeyReadie"Well guys! Hate to say I told you so but I did
Waste of space - always has been always will be
See we have a few changes of opinion now
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I took an incredible amount of stick on our boards for being one of the few that didn't want to sign him, certainly been a few changes of opinion on our board too. Having said that, prior to yesterday there were still plenty who said we'd made a mistake getting rid!!
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| I ahve to say, on all the other threads I have defended Wakefield, JK and the players.......Cooke doesn't get that defense. He isn't good enough. He came at a time when we needed a replacement and he was the only option but now I think we might as well either play Obst and Jeffries and cover hooker, or we go get someone from lower divisions.
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| Oh well he's hoping you'll offer him one
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"So by the sounds of it from this thread the opinion is we take Cooke out of the team and everything will be alright??'"
Either that or we play him at 13 where he belongs and he might just stop carrying the can for the other 16 spineless excused on here.....
But then again, wouldn't bank on it. Cookie could put in a Dally M winning performance and the knifes would still be out.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Either that or we play him at 13 where he belongs and he might just stop carrying the can for the other 16 spineless excused on here.....
But then again, wouldn't bank on it. Cookie could put in a Dally M winning performance and the knifes would still be out.'"
Thanks Tommy im glad im not the only one
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| Thought Cooke has a poor game, but wasn't the worst player on the pitch for us. Several times the distribution was so slow that by the time the ball got to him he had no space. Coupled with no dummy runners and lack of support play I'm not surprised he didn't create much. It's interesting that we get a whole thread slagging him off but no one else is singled out? Last time I looked at the MOM polls someone does on here he was right up with Murphy and Morrison, so some have clearly changed their tune. Can't help thinking he is an easy scapegoat, when the TEAM play badly it must be Cooke's fault.
Before, I get any snidey posts about being related to him, let me say I don't think he is of sufficient qualty for SL, however I could probably say the same about half a dozen of our players.
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| Quote ="MrBigStuff"Thanks Tommy im glad im not the only one'"
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that once he goes into the pack all will be cured - he has work to do and improvement is required, clearly. Thing is, he cannot be reasonably judged on his form to date in the halfs - let him have a run in the pack and then make the call. Till such time plenty on here need to keep their powder dry and if he still performs to the same level then they can all get the Kleenex out and rejoice they where right all along.
Sometimes you get the impression some on here would rather be seen right with their original opinion than see somebody/something come good.....
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| In my admittedly quite limited observations of his strengths when he was still thought of as a decent player, it was his passing that stood out. Whilst in no way wishing to be giving him an excuse for performing poorly it cant be easy for him when our attacking lines and running are so poor. Half the time when the ball finally arrived he was left with no other option but to just ship it on. If people are expecting him to magically create gaps they are deluding themselves, he is 6'4" and hardly the most mobile. As has been said above he is not a 6 in a million years and until he is played in a more suitable position, and the team actually play with any kind of structure, we will see very little from him imo
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| Enough of this slim-line and even slower version of Bobbie Goulding. Mr Cooke was clearly looking forward to his old-pal's act yesterday with relish and he has no business being in a Wakefield shirt. This bloke is an even worse signing than Mr Reilly, now that is saying a lot.
So here's a message for Cooke:
CONTRACT OR NO CONTRACT, GET OUT OF OUR CLUB AND DON'T COME BACK!
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Thanks its saves me the bother of starting a thread.
the guys crap and as been for years.
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Sorry, have to disagree,he did a good job for us at Hull,working well alongside Horne.
Something has gone pear shaped with him since he left us.(I am not saying that because he went to Rovers)
He seems to be on a downhill slide,putting weight on,and appearing disinterested.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Sorry, have to disagree,he did a good job for us at Hull,working well alongside Horne.
Something has gone pear shaped with him since he left us.(I am not saying that because he went to Rovers)
He seems to be on a downhill slide,putting weight on,and appearing disinterested.'"
Even going beyond that he was, IMO, an equivocal success at Rovers. To say he kept us up in 2007 would be a major exaggeration, but he did play an important role. Even inconsistent quality was valuable in that brave but [imostly[/i pretty workmanlike squad. 2008 he let himself and fans down with the 'unfit for selection' debacle. He clearly didn't like being second fiddle to Dobson and failed to react like the consumate pro he probably isn't. Nonetheless, he helped Rovers to fourth in the League in 2009, was occasionally excellent, often average, but rarely poor. Not a spectacular return on his wages, but far from the abject failure that some try to cast him as. Ultimately we paid him to go away, which speaks for itself.
I enjoyed his time at Rovers and personally don't regret the club signing him.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Even going beyond that he was, IMO, an equivocal success at Rovers. To say he kept us up in 2007 would be a major exaggeration, but he did play an important role. Even inconsistent quality was valuable in that brave but [imostly[/i pretty workmanlike squad. 2008 he let himself and fans down with the 'unfit for selection' debacle. He clearly didn't like being second fiddle to Dobson and failed to react like the consumate pro he probably isn't. Nonetheless, he helped Rovers to fourth in the League in 2009, was occasionally excellent, often average, but rarely poor. Not a spectacular return on his wages, but far from the abject failure that some try to cast him as. Ultimately we paid him to go away, which speaks for itself.
I enjoyed his time at Rovers and personally don't regret the club signing him.'"
You are obviously more qualified than me mate with Cookes time at Rovers.I still think he has had a bumpy ride since leaving Hull.For what its worth I always liked him,and think it is a shame the way things are going for him.
Although a lot of Hull fans wont agree.
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| Quote ="barton baird"You are obviously more qualified than me mate with Cookes time at Rovers.I still think he has had a bumpy ride since leaving Hull.For what its worth I always liked him,and think it is a shame the way things are going for him.
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shame the way things are going for him ? hes a grown man with poor lifestyle choices, it all started before he let hull and hes had more than enough help from hull and rovers with his" problems" but nothing changes with him ! john kear gives him a chance and guess what , he lets him down ! overpaid , overated ,overweight
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| Quote ="barton baird"Sorry, have to disagree,he did a good job for us at Hull,working well alongside Horne.
Something has gone pear shaped with him since he left us.(I am not saying that because he went to Rovers)
He seems to be on a downhill slide,putting weight on,and appearing disinterested.'"
Yes thats what i meant, since he left FC.
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| Quote ="freddykruger"shame the way things are going for him ? hes a grown man with poor lifestyle choices, it all started before he let hull and hes had more than enough help from hull and rovers with his" problems" but nothing changes with him ! [u john kear gives him a chance and guess what , he lets him down ! overpaid , overated ,overweight [/u
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In a nuttshell old bean.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that once he goes into the pack all will be cured - he has work to do and improvement is required, clearly. Thing is, he cannot be reasonably judged on his form to date in the halfs - let him have a run in the pack and then make the call. Till such time plenty on here need to keep their powder dry and if he still performs to the same level then they can all get the Kleenex out and rejoice they where right all along.'"
If only he was a 'trier' and tackled a lot he'd get credit. If he had an Aussie accent. Cooke is what he is, very hard to play behind a pack offering no room or time, regardless of whether you are Paul Cooke, Danny Brough, Geoff Bagnall, Brad Davis...
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"If only he was a 'trier' and tackled a lot he'd get credit. If he had an Aussie accent. Cooke is what he is, very hard to play behind a pack offering no room or time, regardless of whether you are Paul Cooke, Danny Brough, Geoff Bagnall, Brad Davis...'"
Too right he would he'd get credit for trying, too right he's bone idle and not interested.
Not in the same league as those 3, he may have been 5 years ago but at least they would have tried.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"I thought he just lacked effort today, and I think his time may be up soon at this top level cos if he cannot shine in that shower that is wakefield then I don't think he can do much more.'"
The amazing thing is 3 years ago you Robins thought he was the best thing since sliced bread - Playing for his boyhood team - maybe it aint anything to do with Wakey being a shower - He Loves you Red and White Shower so he aint going to give his all is he
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| Quote ="barton baird"You are obviously more qualified than me mate with Cookes time at Rovers.I still think he has had a bumpy ride since leaving Hull.For what its worth I always liked him,and think it is a shame the way things are going for him.
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I have said many times that he is a Hull FC Legend because of 2005 but why you think it is a shame the way things are going for him I find hard to believe - People have choices Hull = Hull KR = Wakefield - if you have a chance take it dont be a lazy . He is a gonner. Barman me thinks
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