just out of interest, and I'm not dissagreeing with your view, who would be the twelve?

Off the top of my head

Lewis
Bagnall
Woods
Graham
Ella
Price
Paul
Leeds
Watene
Solomona
Mortimer
Poaching
Domic
Demetriou
Swanston (Don)
Casey
Leuluai

I don't disagree we have been let down sometimes but this list were all seriously better than what we had and some changed the direction of the club considerably.

Edit: After giving myself another 5 minutes I realise I haven't put Sam Obst in there!

Calm down!!

And for the record, why is my "head up is booty"??

Is it because l am not blinkered enough or so one eyed to realise that sh#t happens in life!

yep it does happen and sometimes its unavoidable , this on the other hand is very avoidable

Lewis
Ella
JD
Obst
Korki
Poching
Paul
Solomona
Fritz
Bagnall
Price
Jackson
Watene
Domic
Casey

Major let downs Graham,Todd,Mortimer,Shelford,Tronc etc etc

How can you include those two they are not on your list.

some of the stuff written on here seems way over the top to me

He seems to be getting off lightly considering...

He's not a young, home-grown player, so we really should cut him a bit of slack...

(How do you do that "sarcasm smiley" thing, just in case...?)

I thought mine might have needed one! I bow to you squire.

Please elaborate as to why this is a pathetic post?

S.B why is it that you attack my post and called it 'petty' and when another poster posts the same you approach the topic in a different manner?

Anyway, perhaps it may of seemed a harsh initial post and a personal attack on Tronc, i am very disappointed at him. He may well be a little home sick, but it as many a poster has said, it seems a very good reason to be released from his contract and return home to play in the NRL (for his dream club) I can not say I blame him for wanting a return to the NRL with the Bronco's, as I think Brisbane are very much the Real Madrid of rugby league, so the attraction would be there to any rugby league player. However, if he was deemed a piece in there jigsaw they would of made salary cap arrangements when it was announced he was leaving the NQC- and I stand by that.

I just feel he is been used as a quick fix solution to an injury crisis, very much like Wigan did with Wilkes and Jordan James in 2006?- in my opinion, when players return to fitness he will be a squad player playing rarely. This in itself is a major issue for me, because he is such a key player for our team to just a squad player. This coupled with the losses of Brough and Newton may well turn the season. Ultimately this is lowest I have felt regarding Trinity for a long time.

Last game Quins 17th of this month ?
[url=http://forums.rleague.com/posts/showthread.php?s=481f2dd15b0509e1133a589c6d0bac22&p=1023377#post1023377Australian Fans Forum - With Quotes[/url

From that quote:



Interesting choice of words; I don't think it's Mr Tronc that's been 'stitched up.'

what a load of rubbish the guy has actually said he has no gripes with wakefield. i am pretty sure they will be looking for a replacement for him with all the money you refer to but in my opinion the sooner he gets his butt on the plane the better and let the players that want to play for wakey play.

It's hard to criticise the club here, because it's a stark choice: retain an expensive player (I presume he isn't cheap) who doesn't want to be here, or let him go. If the club takes the view that it is better to cut your losses, then fine, because seing Tronc going through the motions with his bottom lip out all year is an expensive way to stick to your principles. On the other hand, you can accept that it hasn't worked out and let him go, compensation or no compensation. If you hold out for compensation and don't get it, you are stuck paying his wages and probably getting less and less value for your money each week.

Maybe they'll replace him, maybe they won't, but I presume that will be down to who is available. No point in spending the money just because it's there, because I imagine running Wakey's finances is like spinning plates, and I guess no one gets involved with Wakefield to make money.

Hi mate,just be careful you dont upset the mods on here!!!!!!!!!

Being outspoken is ok on here - once you have 4million posts.



Are you going to France in June?

I will PM you.

He also said he was settled not long ago!!

Good advice you would make a good Mod sir

It would seem to be irrelevant, but if we were to hold him to a contract and he played with his lip out, he is only diminishing his own value. I agree though that it isn't the preferred option. However, as the link to the aussie forum suggests, he's still performed well despite the homesickness. Yes that form may have dropped off now, but that has been since his head has been turned.

I really don't think we should release without getting something in return though. The homesickness may be an issue, but would he be so concerned about it if the chance with the Broncos hadn't turned up? If that had been the case, you could keep playing him and release him if his form dropped so badly. Chances are though, his itch has been scratched by Brisbane, and as a wealthy club I don't think it would be too difficult to play a little harder with them and get something in return. I'm sure his agent would work at that just as much as he's worked on us to get a release (assuming the comments on their forum are correct).

tronc is upset at the profesionalsim at the club or lack of it. which is not hard to understand we dont exactly have the best set up ever im sure all the players talking about going to quest after a friday match is not what he is used to in queensland.

let him go, get some money for him, sign charlie leano, stop crying and get on with it

TRIN TILL WE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course not - it's 12,000 miles away!



However, if they're so professional over there, how come there's been so many sex, drugs and booze scandals in recent times????



I think it is exactly what people want it to be - i.e. if Tronc wanted it to work - he could have made it. Surely the idea is to bring your own standards to the club - that is why you try and bring the best players in, isn't it?

I've been to the Redback and seen how those dirty convicts party. I'd have thought Quest would be a luxury.

He really ought to appreciate the progress that has been made. It's not that long ago our esteemed owner could be seen strutting his stuff in Mustang's. Not in an M&S suit mind.

Whatever the reason if he doesn't want to play for us and we aren't getting anything for him sack him off on the next plane and get someone in who actually wants to play for the Club. Dress it up how you like but he's hardly given it a chance, pathetic.