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| Quote ="jonh"Not going to take sides but you have recruited very well for 2010 although some of those could been seen as high risk signings. Tronc is quality, Newton, Millard, Morrison all have issues which make them higher risk than normal.
A large turnover in the squad also rarely pays dividens but could be exactly what the club needs to freshen it up.....its a case of suck it and see for 2010 at the moment I guess.'"
That's my worry, the big turn over in players. That has been one of the highlights off the last 2 seasons or so, we have managed to keep the turn over low.
Can't wait to see Tron in a Wakey shirt, the guy looks class and he has been excellent in the NRL this season.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"if we are a side improving we should have kept Atkins. Losing Snitch to cas is silly. I fear there will be more players leaving.
Martin
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there are players who are dead wood by all means go.
Snitch / Atkins players who will improve we should have kept. Snitch had his best season of his career in my opinion.'"
Does that not tell you something then? He has had 5 years of average performances. This year he was on a one year deal, in effect playing for his super League career. I have serious doubts that he will maintain them level of performances when he is on a 3 year deal. Snitch has also had the benefit of Kears coaching, with his track record of getting average player to lift there game it's no surprise he has had a good year.
We was here last year with Goldon and Dunc, just average players that Kear get the best out of with the added motivation of playing for another contract.
I'm confident that Wilkes and Snitch could be replaced with a couple of forwards out of the Championship. Both on one year deals under the guidance of Kear. A lot better business sense than giving these guys 3 years deals paying more than what they are worth.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I am a personal shopper for Ted Richardson he provides me with a list of what suits he would like and what national league players we can get on the cheap. He really likes seafood; crab sticks, mussels, trout you name it. The last 4 years he has been paying me out of Solomona and Ellis's transfer fee's. I am sorted for the next 3 years now Atkins has gone.'"
So you don't really earn 40k
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| ngb4c .. somebody who purports to earn that kind of money should at least have a basic command of english..you do not ! you cannot spell and your grammer is pathetic ! even most idiots who can turn on a computer can use spell check !
and somebody who needs to boast about their income is in fact a very shallow nobody!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I am a personal shopper for Ted Richardson he provides me with a list of what suits he would like and what national league players we can get on the cheap. He really likes seafood; crab sticks, mussels, trout you name it. The last 4 years he has been paying me out of Solomona and Ellis's transfer fee's. I am sorted for the next 3 years now Atkins has gone.'"
you are a =red-EDIT TRB - getting fed up of editing out ABUSE
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| not wanting to look like im on the negative side but i at this moment in time do wonder what team we will have out next year.yes we have signed some quality players and am happy with the players brought in but at this moment in time we have brought in 4 players but lost 8 players 6 of who are first team regulers (pitts and rooney the odd ones out) add to this the uncertentity over other players ie frank w,t martin we could be looking at a small squad.i do understand players need to be let go esp as we have signed quality players so books need to be balenced.it would be unfair to expect the kids to come in week in week out and perform at the highest levell.
time will tell on who else we sign and other than jefferies and hudson i havent heard any rummers but do trust jk to get it right as long as ted lets him
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| Quote ="cats mad"not wanting to look like im on the negative side but i at this moment in time do wonder what team we will have out next year.yes we have signed some quality players and am happy with the players brought in but at this moment in time we have brought in 4 players but lost 8 players 6 of who are first team regulers (pitts and rooney the odd ones out) add to this the uncertentity over other players ie frank w,t martin we could be looking at a small squad.i do understand players need to be let go esp as we have signed quality players so books need to be balenced.it would be unfair to expect the kids to come in week in week out and perform at the highest levell.
time will tell on who else we sign and other than jefferies and hudson i havent heard any rummers but do trust jk to get it right as long as ted lets him'"
You are right in your assumption - we will have fewer 'senior' players, with a the academy stars getting opportunities - just as St's do - when the big boys are out. It is the right thing to do IMO.
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| Quote ="TRB"You are right in your assumption - we will have fewer 'senior' players, with a the academy stars getting opportunities - just as St's do - when the big boys are out. It is the right thing to do IMO.'"
The problem with this is that the Saints lads are all playing in there reserves and to a high standard for that league.
Wakefields Reserves are poor, and while your Accademy is going strong many other clubs promote there Accademy players to the reserves quicker than what Trinity have done this year. Expecting the Accademy lads to step up 2 levels when injuryt strikes is a huge and in my opinion unrealistic ask.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"why get a life its my opinion you nice person just because you don't agreeand probably no nothing about rugby.'"
get a life because all you do is post negative articles bagging the players jesus h Christ this season aint over yet theres months to go to strengthen the squad, and by the way I dont get out of bed for 40K I am a professional and I also happen to know a lot about rugby I dont shout about it why should I Ihave supported my club through thick and exetremely thin its gives me pleasure and I trust the coach and his staff to deliver. Unlike some who dont appear to have any faith.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I am a personal shopper for Ted Richardson.'"
but you told us you saw him shop
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| heres the difference. Wire keep there squad and bring in 3 good players. We bring in 3 good players and get rid of 3 good players there is the difference. They build we may improve slightly. There is the difference and it will be the same with CAS , Hull KR and Wire / shudds they will all build next year.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"heres the difference. Wire keep there squad and bring in 3 good players. We bring in 3 good players and get rid of 3 good players there is the difference. They build we may improve slightly. There is the difference and it will be the same with CAS , Hull KR and Wire / shudds they will all build next year.'"
Proof for this?
The only downside for me is that we havn't got a player swap and money too, would have a bit of Adrian Morely!
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| Boy, it`s really looking grim for next year, conceivably we might have to turn out with the following:-
Blaymire
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Probably won`t be worth watching (but I will).
I also think that JK may be on a tad more than £40k p.a., so I`ll respect his opinions above NGB4C.
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| Quote ="semitone"Boy, it`s really looking grim for next year, conceivably we might have to turn out with the following:-
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Brough
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Probably won`t be worth watching (but I will).
I also think that JK may be on a tad more than £40k p.a., so I`ll respect his opinions above NGB4C.'"
That looks a good team to me. Well said Semitone.
........and as Wolves are able to improve because of the extra money...I hope you are giving 10% of your fortune to squad builder NGB4C??!?!?!
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| Right here is a question for you guys . Say we finish 5th this year do you think we could finish 4th next year???
Ha ha I would not be 2 sure so thats why we haven't improved much thanks to us getting rid. Id love a wager with someone saying we will improve on our position next year because we won't.
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| you guys just go back on what you say you have no balls : -
HERE IS THE QUESTION DO YOU THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH NEXT YEAR ?? Put all the crap what you sent me i.e. us improving to the test . YOU CANT ANSWER BECUASE I DONT THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH . NGB4C wins another argument has the finishing position is the ultimate final argument on us improving.
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| No we wont finish 4th or 5th.
This year we have performed very well, however other clubs have underperformed bradford, warrington, catalans, you need to look at the BIGGER picture.
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| jeez..you take the biscuit when it comes to intelligence don't you
have you listened to jk's thoughts on this year?
with a so called supporter like you we don't need cas trolls do we ?
take it from your footballer like earnings that you were over in france supporting the team weren't you !
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"you guys just go back on what you say you have no balls : -
HERE IS THE QUESTION DO YOU THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH NEXT YEAR ?? Put all the crap what you sent me i.e. us improving to the test . YOU CANT ANSWER BECUASE I DONT THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH . NGB4C wins another argument has the finishing position is the ultimate final argument on us improving.'"
I can't answer because I don't know, how do you know we won't finish higher?
And stop shouting.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"No we wont finish 4th or 5th.
This year we have performed very well, however other clubs have underperformed bradford, warrington, catalans, you need to look at the BIGGER picture.'"
ha ha ha .. if we keep atkins and snitch build on our signings allready I think we would finish 4th . We deserve our position this year we have been awesome at times and showed great team spirit. With the big changes in our squad for next year do you think our spirit will be has good. Team spirit has been a massive part of our success this year.
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| Get real. With your 40k I would have thought you would have understood that "improvement" is more than just getting to the next position up in the league.
If next year will the club have improved if:
the finances look better
they have more youth development
they win the challenge cup
and finish 7th?
and if Leeds get top.....are they not capable of improvement because of their position?
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| Hopefully the stadium will have moved forward in great strides .
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Right here is a question for you guys . Say we finish 5th this year do you think we could finish 4th next year???
Ha ha I would not be 2 sure so thats why we haven't improved much thanks to us getting rid. Id love a wager with someone saying we will improve on our position next year because we won't.'"
My grandad always advised me not to wager with an idiot.
For that reason, I won't.
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