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| Quote ="bloomers"The match reports say Brough was sent off was sent off for dissent rather than the 'offensive and abusive language', or however they term it. Is that a positive sign, lazy journalism or am I just being a bit too optimistic.
As for what Brough did, yes a professional sportsman should be able to rise above that, but I'm of the mind of the comparison with Wayne Rooney. For some players that streak is tied very closely to their competitive edge. The best you can hope for is they control it as much as they can, but occasional incidents may still happen; regretable but forgivable. As far as the comparisons with a doctor go, a professional sportsman is a different type of proessional from a doctor.'"
Kear said on radio leeds that he was sent off for foul and abusive language iirc...however, i hope what you have heard is true...if he has been sent off for dissent, presumably after several other incidents of such during the game, i would hope that a warning/sending of sufficient verdict would be passed, however, we are speaking about danny brough, a well known hot head/ildisciplined player, playing for an unfashionable club in wakefield who are having a good season....imo the RFL would take great pleasure in banning our star man for a lengthy period of time.
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Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Kear said on radio leeds that he was sent off for foul and abusive language iirc...however, i hope what you have heard is true...if he has been sent off for dissent, presumably after several other incidents of such during the game, i would hope that a warning/sending of sufficient verdict would be passed, however, we are speaking about danny brough, a well known hot head/ildisciplined player, playing for an unfashionable club in wakefield who are having a good season....imo the RFL would take great pleasure in banning our star man for a lengthy period of time.'"
Indeed - I've had a look at the RFL disciplinary website and this incident will have a major bearing on the outcome: www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=865
Interestingly, I couldn't find any previous bans for Brough for anything he's done, at any club. I'm not sure if that's correct though.
He's obviously going to get a ban but with it being us and with him already havng been warned I fear it could cover any playoff matches we'd be involved in too.
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Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Kear said on radio leeds that he was sent off for foul and abusive language iirc...however, i hope what you have heard is true...if he has been sent off for dissent, presumably after several other incidents of such during the game, i would hope that a warning/sending of sufficient verdict would be passed, however, we are speaking about danny brough, a well known hot head/ildisciplined player, playing for an unfashionable club in wakefield who are having a good season....imo the RFL would take great pleasure in banning our star man for a lengthy period of time.'"
Indeed - I've had a look at the RFL disciplinary website and this incident will have a major bearing on the outcome: www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... php?id=865
Interestingly, I couldn't find any previous bans for Brough for anything he's done, at any club. I'm not sure if that's correct though.
He's obviously going to get a ban but with it being us and with him already havng been warned I fear it could cover any playoff matches we'd be involved in too.
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| Danny had a great game yesterday, he was really fired up all game. It must be hard to control your feelings when a jumped up ex-linesman is giving it the big ‘I am’.
If Brough had been the captain, would he have been allowed to question the decision?
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| Surely he wont get more than three matches?
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Danny had a great game yesterday, he was really fired up all game. It must be hard to control your feelings when a jumped up ex-linesman is giving it the big ‘I am’.
If Brough had been the captain, would he have been allowed to question the decision?'"
maybe so, but not with the effing and jeffing included
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"
If Brough had been the captain, would he have been allowed to question the decision?'"
Do you think Brough got sent off just for questioning a decision? A straight red indicates it was foul/abusive and I'm guessing if Demetriou questioned the officials in a similar manner you could expect the same outcome.
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Quote ="Jambon"Surely he wont get more than three matches?'"
I can't read the guide to the disciplinary process here: www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php? ... areaid=181 because my computer won't download it,
but to find the RFL disciplinary page I did a google search and got a long list of previous hearings which were accompanied by this:
[i" The Panel may apply a sanction outside of the usual range if in light of the aggravating and mitigating factors they consider it appropriate to do so or if they have previously warned the Player that they will do."[/i
So, basically, they can still give him any sanction they want to, despite what they charge him with.
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Quote ="Jambon"Surely he wont get more than three matches?'"
I can't read the guide to the disciplinary process here: www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php? ... areaid=181 because my computer won't download it,
but to find the RFL disciplinary page I did a google search and got a long list of previous hearings which were accompanied by this:
[i" The Panel may apply a sanction outside of the usual range if in light of the aggravating and mitigating factors they consider it appropriate to do so or if they have previously warned the Player that they will do."[/i
So, basically, they can still give him any sanction they want to, despite what they charge him with.
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| Quote Wakefield Trinity Wildcats scrum-half Danny Brough has been charged with using foul and abusive language to a match official following his dismissal in the 77th minute of his team's victory over Celtic Crusaders on Sunday.
The offence is classed as Grade C and carries a suspension of between one and four matches if the player is found guilty.'"
No mention of any other Wakefield players being charged this week.
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| What if Brough claims he deliberately aimed an insult at the touch judge but unintentionally aimed for his ears therefore it was accidental? Might see him get off with a warning letter/formal caution.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Do you think Brough got sent off just for questioning a decision? A straight red indicates it was foul/abusive and I'm guessing if Demetriou questioned the officials in a similar manner you could expect the same outcome.'"
Captains are allowed to discuss decisions with the referee.
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| Quote ="SBR"No mention of any other Wakefield players being charged this week.'"
Wasn't the Korki tackle & subsequent tiff put on report?
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| Quote ="SBR"No mention of any other Wakefield players being charged this week.'"
Depending on what was said, 2 matches I reckon.
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| Quote ="bloomers"Wasn't the Korki tackle & subsequent tiff put on report?'"
Must be no charge or no case to answer. The press release only includes the charges/cautions/warning letters.
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| Quote ="LordoftheWarlords"Captains are allowed to discuss decisions with the referee.'"
Yes they are, but I don’t think that gives them free reign to use foul and abusive language to the official.
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| Quote ="SBR"Must be no charge or no case to answer. The press release only includes the charges/cautions/warning letters.'"
Fair do, I thought they normally stated those ones as well.
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| Quote ="bloomers"Fair do, I thought they normally stated those ones as well.'"
It should make it onto the RFL website at some point.
Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Yes they are, but I don’t think that gives them free reign to use foul and abusive language to the official.'"
Aren't they, in theory, only allowed to ask the ref (respectfully) to explain their decision?
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| Quote ="SBR"
Aren't they, in theory, only allowed to ask the ref (respectfully) to explain their decision?'"
Yeah, I suppose questioning was the wrong word.
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| It may have been a fan behind the touch judge and he thought it was Danny who said it .
Anyway talking about foul language what about Sean O'Loughlin on Friday night you could hear him shout at Silverwood "he dropped the f---ing ball, at the Westwood play the ball the led to try.
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Just Danny charged, all others let off / on field penalty sufficient.
At the very least we will be without him for friday but due to his past record he will probably get more than one match.
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Anyway talking about foul language what about Sean O'Loughlin on Friday night you could hear him shout at Silverwood "he dropped the f---ing ball, at the Westwood play the ball the led to try.'"
Yeah i heard that too as im sure many young kids may have done too! This just shows how inconsistent these decisions are. There is video proof of this but it gets ignored
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| Again I think it the manner in which is spoken, if its exasperation then I think quite rightly the benefit of the doubt should be given. We are not all saints who utter fiddlesticks when we’re frustrated. However, if it aimed at an official and is meant to be derogatory then quite rightly that player should see red.
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| Quote ="Töm"[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php[/url
Just Danny charged, all others let off / on field penalty sufficient.
At the very least we will be without him for friday but due to his past record he will probably get more than one match.'"
I think he'll get minimum of two games and £500 fine! we'll be without him for the 2 vital games that are going to effectivly decide if we get a home play off game or not!!!! typical !!!!
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| Quote ="Töm"[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php[/url
Just Danny charged, all others let off / on field penalty sufficient.
At the very least we will be without him for friday but due to his past record he will probably get more than one match.'"
I don't think his in-match disciplinary record is that bad at all.
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| Quote ="Disney cat"
Anyway talking about foul language what about Sean O'Loughlin on Friday night you could hear him shout at Silverwood "he dropped the f---ing ball, at the Westwood play the ball the led to try.'"
Nothing wrong with that? He didn't swear at the ref.
This is sport remember!
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| Quote ="bloomers"I don't think his in-match disciplinary record is that bad at all.'"
He hasn't been banned, but 3 incidents involving him for this match alone were flagged up to the panel. Yes 2 have been dismissed as penalty sufficient but could these be the "mitigating circumstances" the rfl bang on about making a ban longer than the one usually given? Bearing in mind he has already been formally warned about foul and abusive language this season.
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