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| I have completed my letter of 'suggestion' to the club. I have suggested the following:
They use their brains and not put a chain across the walk way. This will stop fans having to clamber over fellow fans in a desperate attempt to sit in the seat they have paid £240 for. If the chain is necessary they need to keep the front row of seats available to use as a walkway (this would have been a better ploy if they would have planned ahead in he off season and not sold season tickets for these rows).
I have also suggested buying a light bulb for the toilets outside the east stand. At a cost of approx £3 we can reduce the amount of urine on fans shoes as fans will be able to see where they are urinating.
This is a letter of suggestion not a letter of complaint. This should keep the 'least best' brigade happy.
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| Quote ="Quel Suprise!"I have completed my letter of 'suggestion' to the club. I have suggested the following:
They use their brains and not put a chain across the walk way. This will stop fans having to clamber over fellow fans in a desperate attempt to sit in the seat they have paid £240 for. If the chain is necessary they need to keep the front row of seats available to use as a walkway (this would have been a better ploy if they would have planned ahead in he off season and not sold season tickets for these rows).
I have also suggested buying a light bulb for the toilets outside the east stand. At a cost of approx £3 we can reduce the amount of urine on fans shoes as fans will be able to see where they are urinating.
This is a letter of suggestion not a letter of complaint. This should keep the 'least best' brigade happy.'"
spot on may i also suggest another bar staff member at £5.20 to serve more beer at the cats bar 4 hours on match day = £20.80 we would need to pay them. The club will make £200+ on beer sales alone. Yea £240 and we have to clamber over seats I think about other people and in our block they are 70+ year olds and they have to do it.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"spot on may i also suggest another bar staff member at £5.20 to serve more beer at the cats bar 4 hours on match day = £20.80 we would need to pay them. The club will make £200+ on beer sales alone. Yea £240 and we have to clamber over seats I think about other people and in our block they are 70+ year olds and they have to do it.'"
Simple really. Dont spend 2 hrs queueing for beer, go get in your seat early. Then you dont upset the 70 year olds' by treading on them getting to your seat late. And another plus is you wont give those that are happy to queue for beer a headache with your constant moaning Just a suggestion fwiw
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"spot on may i also suggest another bar staff member at £5.20 to serve more beer at the cats bar 4 hours on match day = £20.80 we would need to pay them. The club will make £200+ on beer sales alone. Yea £240 and we have to clamber over seats I think about other people and in our block they are 70+ year olds and they have to do it.'"
Minor point, but it would cost more then the £20.80 you quoted to employ someone for 4 hours.
All in all BV is a very old stadium which inhibits the ways it is run. Things like cordoning off certain areas tend to be bodge jobs as opposed to slick organisation. It shouldn’t have happen and by letting the club know about issues such as the one you encountered should stop it from happening in future.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I will get jumped down the throat for this but I am used to it and I think I am correct as I care about the club but we lose unecessary amounts of money and do daft things. Went to the club shop friday they aint getting anymore medium home kits in christ we are 6 games into the season money lost. People will have to shop else where! Been a season ticket holder for 10 years and sunday I find out I couldnt get to my seat it had been chained off so everyone who was in that block had to clamber over seats and under barriers some were 6 foot 2 plus blokes and some who weren't a shade under 80 years old it really is poor and a complaint will be wrote. George, Grix and Stosic couldnt even get in the ground they had to walk around its embarrassing there the players who put thereselves on the line for us. Also ticket prices £20 doesnt matter to me as im a season ticket holder but it is poor. Its a recession. JJB charge £16 for that ground. Some things by the club at the minute need sorting they really do. Oh and the cats bar this loses money all the time people don't no if its open or shut the money this could make before, after and during would be a good amount for the club. Went at half time sunday massive que 1 person serving, seriously who is running this club a untrained chimp?.Apart from the playing and coaching staff who are doing amazing things for us we need to really do better.'"
its better to sell out than to have loads left over , the club even had shirts left in february and had to off load them to sports direct for peanuts so risked losing money on them . are you seriouly critizing the club learning from mistakes that cost money or does WTRLFC and the whole fecking world revolve round you and your belated request for a shirt?
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| Quote ="mutley cat"its better to sell out than to have loads left over , the club even had shirts left in february and had to off load them to sports direct for peanuts so risked losing money on them . are you seriouly critizing the club learning from mistakes that cost money or does WTRLFC and the whole fecking world revolve round you and your belated request for a shirt?'"
Why would the club offload shirts before the season had even begun?
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| Quote ="mutley cat"its better to sell out than to have loads left over , the club even had shirts left in february and had to off load them to sports direct for peanuts so risked losing money on them . are you seriouly critizing the club learning from mistakes that cost money or does WTRLFC and the whole fecking world revolve round you and your belated request for a shirt?'"
Having no medium shirts at all is BAD. Hope the club can solve this problem.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Why would the club offload shirts before the season had even begun?'"
i was referring to last seasons shirts , what was left from the new year sale where let go at quite a loss, i can understand frustration about it but if the club sales out then they dont lose out. plus if we put supply and demand into high street stores then this too can have a positive effect . my sister once brought a wigan top from the jjb because she liked the top!!! never been to a game yet walks round wakey donning the wigan colours. its a case of damned if you do and damned if you dont
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| Quote ="adam9641"Having no medium shirts at all is BAD. Hope the club can solve this problem.'"
sorry Adam the fact that they have sold out is great they make a big profit and don't have to write a penny of it off.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i was referring to last seasons shirts , what was left from the new year sale where let go at quite a loss'"
Gotcha! To be honest, I paid a £10 from Sports Direct for one, easier than getting down to BV for the sale when you rely on public transport and work out of the city 6 days a week.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"sorry Adam the fact that they have sold out is great they make a big profit and don't have to write a penny of it off.'"
Sold out yeah it's great, but a club shop should always have stock for the playing shirts and I think it is poor of the club not to get some more in.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Sold out yeah it's great, but a club shop should always have stock for the playing shirts and I think it is poor of the club not to get some more in.'"
so do you think kooga do orders off 1 shirt ? they will have to run off say 100 to get them at a price anywhere near to what they normally pay kooga are you seriouly suggesting that ted buys another 100 plus shirts to accommodate the couple who unfortunately miss out?
i really do symphasize when someone can not buy what they want but it would be stupid to get more in now , lets bask in the glory that you can go up town and buy one because they are so popular the official outlet as sold out.
lets be honest if the shop was overflowing with unsold shirts then the same old posters would be cursing that move.
i know the club still have a lot to learn but for WIW IMHO i find it hard to find fault the shirts arrived 3months ago
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| Quote ="mutley cat"so do you think kooga do orders off 1 shirt ? they will have to run off say 100 to get them at a price anywhere near to what they normally pay kooga are you seriouly suggesting that ted buys another 100 plus shirts to accommodate the couple who unfortunately miss out?
i really do symphasize when someone can not buy what they want but it would be stupid to get more in now , lets bask in the glory that you can go up town and buy one because they are so popular the official outlet as sold out.
lets be honest if the shop was overflowing with unsold shirts then the same old posters would be cursing that move.
i know the club still have a lot to learn but for WIW IMHO i find it hard to find fault the shirts arrived 3months ago'"
Just think we should have some shirts, it's only early on in the season and not everyone can afford to get a top and season ticket at the same time. So some people will miss out on the top they want.
As I have said it is great that the club have sold out but I don't think any club shop should say "not getting any more in"
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| Quote ="adam9641"Just think we should have some shirts, it's only early on in the season and not everyone can afford to get a top and season ticket at the same time. So some people will miss out on the top they want.
As I have said it is great that the club have sold out but I don't think any club shop should say "not getting any more in"'"
but they are not getting anymore so why say anything else.
unfortunately NGFC as missed out , unlucky yes clubs fault no .
the club need to speculate to accumulate but if they get it wrong it can have an adverse effect greater than a lot of people are really considering going into the red because of gambles that don't pan out is not very wise at the start of a mass recession . Just ask HBOS .
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| Quote ="mutley cat"but they are not getting anymore so why say anything else.
unfortunately NGFC as missed out , unlucky yes clubs fault no .
the club need to speculate to accumulate but if they get it wrong it can have an adverse effect greater than a lot of people are really considering going into the red because of gambles that don't pan out is not very wise at the start of a mass recession . Just ask HBOS .'"
That's the point, it's poor the club will not be getting any more in.
Say we get play offs this season and another good run in cup, shirts will be in high demand like last season and I don't think fans will be happy when they say sorry no medium.
I know a few who are saving up for tops so let's hope they are not medium
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| Quote ="adam9641"That's the point, it's poor the club will not be getting any more in.
Say we get play offs this season and another good run in cup, shirts will be in high demand like last season and I don't think fans will be happy when they say sorry no medium.
I know a few who are saving up for tops so let's hope they are not medium
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i dont think your catching the point if we 'LOSE' money because we dont sell the shirts then that means the money we have already made is lost . The club took a bettering with the surplus shirts they had left because unfortunately Kooga dont do sale or return . Its been fairly judged by the club and if they are guilty of anything then its ordering too many XL instead off medium but its trail and error Adam. this is not monopoly money the club is dealing with its our lifeline and i would rather the club be prudent .lets do the maths say if the club put a 100% mark up on cost then it would still cost the club at least £2500 to buy 100 shirts (thats if we are lucky enough to get KooGa to run them off again at the same price)
wakey need to sell 50 to break even , of course things are never that simple and TBF i would be very surprised if KooGa would run 100 shirts off on the cheap as they are normally busy and orders need a few weeks befor they are completed this means the shirts would probably be with us in say 6 weeks if we lose the next 8 will the shirts sell?
I know its hard to swallow but its for the best
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i dont think your catching the point if we 'LOSE' money because we dont sell the shirts then that means the money we have already made is lost . The club took a bettering with the surplus shirts they had left because unfortunately Kooga dont do sale or return . Its been fairly judged by the club and if they are guilty of anything then its ordering too many XL instead off medium but its trail and error Adam. this is not monopoly money the club is dealing with its our lifeline and i would rather the club be prudent .lets do the maths say if the club put a 100% mark up on cost then it would still cost the club at least £2500 to buy 100 shirts (thats if we are lucky enough to get KooGa to run them off again at the same price)
wakey need to sell 50 to break even , of course things are never that simple and TBF i would be very surprised if KooGa would run 100 shirts off on the cheap as they are normally busy and orders need a few weeks befor they are completed this means the shirts would probably be with us in say 6 weeks if we lose the next 8 will the shirts sell?
I know its hard to swallow but its for the best'"
For the tops they sell, I would guess they will make double what they paid? Who knows? But the main thing is that they learn for the future, I would hope this does not happen again.
And FWIW many businesses would rather have a few too many rather that not enough, and I know there is this credit crunch etc but I don’t think it would effect the club too much not been able to shift a few shirts.
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| Quote ="adam9641"For the tops they sell, I would guess they will make double what they paid? Who knows? But the main thing is that they learn for the future, I would hope this does not happen again.
And FWIW many businesses would rather have a few too many rather that not enough, and I know there is this credit crunch etc but I don’t think it would effect the club too much not been able to shift a few shirts.'"
good bussineess plan = sucessfull franchises
i think we are gonna have to agree to disagree Adam which is a shame because im right
by the way dont you have a fan site to update? I can see no mention of the shirts on there
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| Quote ="mutley cat"good bussineess plan = sucessfull franchises
i think we are gonna have to agree to disagree Adam which is a shame because im right
by the way dont you have a fan site to update? I can see no mention of the shirts on there
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Mind you just had a brain wave
Maybe it could prove to be a good thing With other items in stock like polo tops, jumpers and hoodies maybe they will be able to push them more and sell some more of them to boost profits
I was hoping to get some info (not about whats going on inside the club or anything) and stats off the club, but they will not give me any
In process of thinking of new ideas, now I can not do the ones I wanted to do
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| Why not buy a large one?
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| The club will be getting more shirts in, for our match at Wembley.
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| Quote ="mutley cat"i dont think your catching the point if we 'LOSE' money because we dont sell the shirts then that means the money we have already made is lost . The club took a bettering with the surplus shirts they had left because unfortunately Kooga dont do sale or return . Its been fairly judged by the club and if they are guilty of anything then its ordering too many XL instead off medium but its trail and error Adam. this is not monopoly money the club is dealing with its our lifeline and i would rather the club be prudent .lets do the maths say if the club put a 100% mark up on cost then it would still cost the club at least £2500 to buy 100 shirts (thats if we are lucky enough to get KooGa to run them off again at the same price)
wakey need to sell 50 to break even , of course things are never that simple and TBF i would be very surprised if KooGa would run 100 shirts off on the cheap as they are normally busy and orders need a few weeks befor they are completed this means the shirts would probably be with us in say 6 weeks if we lose the next 8 will the shirts sell?
I know its hard to swallow but its for the best'"
Seriously do you have a brain cell?? Fairly judged they ran out and not getting anymore in 3 weeks into the season? Fairly judged are you a complete duck egg or what???Im saying 3 week into the season because i actually checked a good time before friday last week so it probably worked out 3 week before season or even before that!
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Seriously do you have a brain cell?? Fairly judged they ran out and not getting anymore in 3 weeks into the season? Fairly judged are you a complete duck egg or what???Im saying 3 week into the season because i actually checked a good time before friday last week so it probably worked out 3 week before season or even before that!'"
and you have fully evaluated the comapartive sales figures during the same period over say the last 3 years?
did you run woolworths cos thats what they did wrong! overstocked and sold at a loss.
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| Quote ="chapster"and you have fully evaluated the comapartive sales figures during the same period over say the last 3 years?
did you run woolworths cos thats what they did wrong! overstocked and sold at a loss.'"
Well our club certainly aint thats for sure! Seriously you comparing the club shop to woolworths!
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| Not scientific this, but...with only 1 person seemingly complaining about the lack of medium shirts, then yes, fairly judged.
If the reality is 50 or 60 people missing out, then no, not fairly judged.
If you are medium and would like a shirt, say so now...
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