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| We need to go big and try to batter the Bulls just as hard as possible, which will help to create some space for us later on in each half and for god's sake look after the ball and don't give a penalty away every time something goes against us or when we make a mistake.
Finally, don't try too hard, we don't have to try and win the game with every play.
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| In fact I would go with Mullally on from the start, he seems to put us on the front foot.
We cant afford to start slow in this game.
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| no Lee Smith, a classy player,goalkicker too. he can play a number of positions. is he injured, nothing been said, has he left the club? i would have been happier with him in the squad for this must win match.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"no Lee Smith, a classy player,goalkicker too. he can play a number of positions. is he injured, nothing been said, has he left the club? i would have been happier with him in the squad for this must win match.
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Not picked last week, so I imagine will be the same this week.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"no Lee Smith, a classy player,goalkicker too. he can play a number of positions. is he injured, nothing been said, has he left the club? i would have been happier with him in the squad for this must win match.
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Likewise. 6 tries, 15 goals and a drop goal in just 6 appearances since he returned and his all round performances have been in the main very good. Plus bags of big game experience - 3x grand finals (m.o.m. in one), world club challenge winner, England caps (including a world cup). For me he is a big miss.
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| Yates had a massive work rate against Sheffield in a poor side
He was top prop in both tackles and carries with no missed tackles
The problem is, he didn't make massive average gain across his carries.
I'd have him in over Kavanagh but Scruton, Mullally and Simon are the ones who are going get us on the front foot.
The backs kinda pick themselves if Lee Smith isn't playing, which is a bit of a hole, but the pack, I'd go with this
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Sio
Walker
Kirmond
Washbrook
Simon
Moore
Yates
Mullally
Ali/Annakin
I can't decide between Ali and Annakin. Annakin's work rate was much higher but we are lacking someone who can break the line and Ali is exactly that.
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| Is it even possible that we could focus on the players that do want to play for us rather than those that don't!
No Lee Smtih - if he ain't there and he ain't injured, allegedly, then there's a reason why he isn't there!
That squad can do the job in hand!
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| I know it's a little negative but not so long ago we were looking at this team
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Owen
Tupou
Arundal
Smith
Miller
Smith
Scruton
Sio
Anderson
Molloy
Ashurst
Simon
Godinet
Mullally
Walker/Yates
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With Kirmond coming in late to add even more
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| Quote ="TRB"Is it even possible that we could focus on the players that do want to play for us rather than those that don't!
No Lee Smtih - if he ain't there and he ain't injured, allegedly, then there's a reason why he isn't there!
That squad can do the job in hand!'"
Oh.....wish I'd not posted the "other" team now.
............I'll get my coat!
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| Quote ="PopTart"I know it's a little negative but not so long ago we were looking at this team
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Owen
Tupou
Arundal
Smith
Miller
Smith
Scruton
Sio
Anderson
Molloy
Ashurst
Simon
Godinet
Mullally
Walker/Yates
Ali
With Kirmond coming in late to add even more'"
Chuff me sideways!
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| Quote ="TRB"Is it even possible that we could focus on the players that do want to play for us rather than those that don't!
No Lee Smtih - if he ain't there and he ain't injured, allegedly, then there's a reason why he isn't there!
That squad can do the job in hand!'"
It's a thread that discusses who is in the squad and who isn't. If you don't like that, tough, don't read it! You need to get off that high horse you've been on recently.
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| Quote ="TRB"Is it even possible that we could focus on the players that do want to play for us rather than those that don't!
No Lee Smtih - if he ain't there and he ain't injured, allegedly, then there's a reason why he isn't there!
That squad can do the job in hand!'"
Maybe he's asked not to play
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| Quote ="Theboyem"It's a thread that discusses who is in the squad and who isn't. If you don't like that, tough, don't read it! You need to get off that high horse you've been on recently.'"
I quite like the high-horse!
Sorry, just mithered that there is not enough attention to those who want to play for us and too much lamenting those that aren't or won't!
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| It's also a matter of comparing what has worked and what hasn't.
When we had Ashurst, Molloy and Simon in the back row our pack was really smashing other teams around, Bradford being case in point.
As we have lost some, it is not a bad thing to compare as we still need to replicate.
Kirmond coming back is a big boost in my opinion. I watched him against Sheffield and he worked hard and made a lot of ground. We have missed that.
We need to see if Miller can put him through a gap like Smith could but either way his work rate and will to win will help us a lot.
In terms of who wants to play, I would have likes some of those missing but one of the big influences on the game will be from those playing here next year. Smith and Locke were gone anyway. Would they have given up early? Miller and Annakin and Sio and Scruton will all feel the consequence of the win or loss. They are the best players to play in a game like this.
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| Quote ="TRB"I quite like the high-horse!
Sorry, just mithered that there is not enough attention to those who want to play for us and too much lamenting those that aren't or won't!'"
Which is perfectly fine and come game day they will no doubt have everyones full support. Bit in the meantime i think its fair to discuss why certain players aren't playing and why is it they seem to not want to play for us?
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| And for what its worth i think that team still has the edge over Bradford, especially in the forwards. That should allow Miller and Godinets running game to flourish with quick ball. Wakey by 8.
I'll go
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Lyne
Arundal
Johnstone
Miller
Godinet
Scruton
Sio
Mullally
Kirmond
Washbrook
Simon
Walker
Yates
Lauitiiti
Annakin
Moore & Tansey to miss out. Washbrook to cover 9 whilst Sio has a breather, Tupou to switch to the position he has played most of his first grade career in and Mullally to start to get us on the front foot from the get go. Gone for a big bench as i think the forwards is where we will win the game.
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| That is probably the weakest looking squad we could possibly field. All becuase the club wanted to take the moral high ground despite there being only one game left.
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| I thought Moore sustained an estimated 3 month recovery biceps tendon injury about 2 months ago? He's done well then
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| Quote ="Willzay"That is probably the weakest looking squad we could possibly field. All becuase the club wanted to take the moral high ground despite there being only one game left.'"
I know what you are saying Wilzay but as said above I'd rather have people up for the fight.
If Smith doesn't come back to a meeting to talk about the incident, claiming anxiety, he is hardly ready for this kind of game.
The only ones missing through moral high ground is Smith and Locke.
I'd have liked to see Lee Smith back but everyone has been calling for the young kids to be given a go and Jowett is pretty handy if you ask me.
It's all a matter of being up for the game.
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| I think the big misses are Anderson, Ashurst & L Smith with Molloy close to being included in that group.
I totally agree with the action taken by the club in sacking, Locke & T Smith, I don't understand how Reece Lyne survived but I don't have all the facts.
I would love to have seen us with a fit Ashurst on the left and a fit Kirmond on the right but hey ho, we still have a good backrow.
I've heard on the grapevine and through one or two TV pundits that Bradford are going to keep it very tight. If they do that I think they're playing into our strength and the area we have the advantage.
I think we've got a hell of a lot more pace in the team compared to last time we played Bradford. With Godinet much faster than T Smith, Jowitt & Johnstone both faster than the players they've replaced.
I'd go with
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Johnstone
Arundel
Tupou
Lyne
Godinet
Miller
Scruton
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| Lee Smith missing with his big game experience is a mistake if not injured. As already said been prolific try scorer and very good kicker. He should have been in centre with Jowitt at full back.
I said in another thread Anderson going off after 5 mins against Eagles I thought he wouldn't be playing. Not suggesting it's not a genuine injury but got disciplined then gets injured after 2 hit ups with the ball, bet he's not with Trinity next year. Hope there is a performance in all of them....
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| He damaged his knee ligaments. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do that on purpose.
"Not suggesting it's not genuine but......." is pretty much suggesting it's not genuine.
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| I cannot believe what I am reading that team however you juggle it is poor. An honourable defeat is still a defeat, I am struggling to come up with a worse team. It is that bad that you all pick Lyne despite the general consensus he is rubbish but this is all we have left. I doubt we have any other players to add so it was probably one of the easiest squads to pick.
The sad part it is just before our most important game our chairman decides to release probably three players. I think someone should point out to him that players are released after the last game not just before. It looks more like another excuse to save money on their salaries.
I would point out that if he had a sick note then sacking him could turn out to be quite expensive if he sues the club for wrongful dismissal.
Cue Michael Chissit
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| If you actually read the squad report it does not say Ashurst is injured.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I cannot believe what I am reading that team however you juggle it is poor. An honourable defeat is still a defeat, I am struggling to come up with a worse team. It is that bad that you all pick Lyne despite the general consensus he is rubbish but this is all we have left. I doubt we have any other players to add so it was probably one of the easiest squads to pick.
The sad part it is just before our most important game our chairman decides to release probably three players. I think someone should point out to him that players are released after the last game not just before. It looks more like another excuse to save money on their salaries.
I would point out that if he had a sick note then sacking him could turn out to be quite expensive if he sues the club for wrongful dismissal.
Cue Michael Chissit'"
Fits in with mention in Bradford paper today that Carters probably going to take Wakefield part time next year if you go down. Everything he does seems to be about saving money.
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