smurph was a centre as a kid but also played stand off and wing. personally i think he will be a very good full back. how was blaymire tonight?

Agree entirely with the opening post.

Poor, poor, poor!

I was at the game and you are spot on.

Gleeson is going backwards and is not a SL Centre. When Johnson is fit I'd play him in the centre. JD gives his all but I'm afraid it looks like age has caught up with him.

Poor performance, need a big improvement or Cas will turn us over.

Absolutely - they will run riot through our pathetic attempt to play the sliding defence.

=#BF0000[size=200STOP THE SLIDING DEFENCE - NOW - IT DOESN'T WORK![/size

We could all see that the sliding defence was not working, that is of course those on the field and those who decide waht system we are playing to.

We have been caught out by it against Huddersfield and Hull KR were wooping us untill we went back to man for man marking.

Stick with man for man marking we cannot do sliding defence.

Agree with what people are saying. I have been tonight and am so frustrated at how easy teams cut us to shreds down our right hand side. Sean Gleeson needs a rest, he just doesnt seem to know where he should be in the defensive line and was leaving Blanch 2 on 1 on every single attack down their side. Blanchy didnt have his best game in the world but its not easy doing 2 players work. This isn't the first time Gleeson has been left wanting and unfortunately for young Morton, he took the wrath from certain pundits and the media when in reality he was suffering the same 2 on 1 scenario himself in weeks gone by ! All coaches will look at the VT in the run upto our game when we play them and it was obvious from the 1st minute tonight Warrington were targetting out right channel. I have confidence in the King that this will be rectified for Friday.

We didnt play well tonight but if we take some positives away with us -

1. Matty is getting back to best. Fitness returning week after week and solid at the back again.
2. Sammy is just non-stop and never gives up. Rewarded with another superb solo try.
3. Cooke more influential tonight and will only get better.
4. Gledhill had another solid performance up front.
5. Kirmond played well when introduced and will no doubt improve our squad.
6. Hendo fantastic again. Tackles anything that moves and made 2 clean breaks.

We can play a hell of a lot better than that tonight and with a little bit of luck we could have gone in at 16-10 ( would like to see their try on the hooter ). We had them pinned on their own line from the kick off in the second half and who knows what might have happened if we had managed to get level. Like I said to my mate who was with me at the game tonight, not many teams will goto the HJ Stadium and come away with anything so all in all its not the end of the world.

BRING ON CAS !

Gone quiet crowt123, cat got your Tongue?

uptoncat your a very naughty boy. il bring you a spelling test up normy and then we can improve your english, ffs

This is pretty much how I saw it, and we weren't helped by the ref. Having said that the scoreline did flatter us I'm afraid to say and I never felt we were in this one.

JK needs to drop Gleeson as teams are now, opposition teams are now targeting us down that side with considerable success. JD looks like a shadow of his former self and although I can't knock Obst's effort he lacks the kicking game to unlock defences.

On the positive side after losing Brough it will take time to adapt, Cookie is starting to show glimpses of what he can do and Gledhill was once again solid. Kirmond looked useful when he came on in second half.

I think switching Murphy to centre is a sound idea as his defensive game is top notch and am inclined to agree re: george/morton for blanch. I would start with Kirmond and have JD on the bench.

I doubt JK will make many changes as he likes to let players redeem themselves, but surely he needs to address Gleeson's defensive frailties.

and the award for most pathetic post of the week goes to....

UC agree with your post. Gleeson, and imo Blanch, were poor tonight. TRB you say stop the sliding defence it doesn't work and i agree, but only in that some players have suddenly lost the ability to implement it.

In the first half our kicking was as bad as i have seen in a long long time and barely improved in the 2nd half. As much as he tried Obst was very ineffectual tonight. Cooke looked rusty and needs time, Henderson was the only one making any kind of yardage.

Was worried at how Davey was dropped from the bench to make way for Kirmond, not that I dont think he should be involved but that we looked unbalanced.

Worried, but hopefully we can stuff our rivals on friday....

Whose gonna write the spelling test for you to give him

oh and talking of naughty boys you arnt half in trouble with me mam when you get home

Think jk has persevered long enough with gleeson - his defense has been shocking this season, time for a change.

Have to say that although we were poor defensively it was our lack of tactical kicking and ball control aligned to a lack of go forward that really caused the problem, obst was awful with his kicking first attempt a poor kick straight into to touch - a series of aimless mid field kicks and then near the line both obst and cooke trying to thread the eye of the needle.

Thought wolves set out to stop our front row playing and just beat us up,

TRB, Can you tell me what defensive structure the Wildcats should play. I am curious thats all

The consensus around me was man to man. We do not have much success with the sliding defence - if you get it wrong (as we do) it looks horrible.

TBF to Warrington - their handling and momentum were good enough to expose us in those areas - as were Hudds and as were Wigan at BV last year (Ainscough x 4).

Yes I am another poster that totally agrees with your views.

Time to give Gleeson a rest but that leaves us with only Millard and Murphy as true centres in our squad.

would have to agree with previous posts, we were miles off the pace last night.

gleeson looks very out of form
blanch not playing half as well as morton was (poss not fit)
jd too slow for a centre and not creative enough for loose forward
sam gives his all but seemed to be trying to cover hooker as well when latu was off
tronc must be sick to death of being used as cannon fodder, trundling up the same channel where the opposition are stood waiting to hammer him!(just a random off the wall idea but why not miss him out once in a while?)

it could just be transitional. losing brough, jeffries, johnson and newton was always going to have some effect on the team.

with the half back situation we cannot start without an interchange hooker, thought young davey has stood up well so far

Thats because he went to hooker when Latu went off. Morrision to 7 and Cooke stays at 6.

which pretty much sums it up for me

heaven help us!

He started at Half back against Salford.

I thought Obst was a more than adequate replacement for Brough after the previous two games, or are we starting to look more long term now?

Poor Paul Cooke. When will he get a settled partner to work with so he can stamp his influence on the team. He's gone from not playing at all to moving to a new club and having to be the main creative force! Hopefully, he's given time and not expected to pull up trees straight away.

Is it better to play Morrison out of position while players come back, reducing his effectiveness, or put one of the much vaunted youth of this club in the side?

Is Demetriou up to it or, like Davis in his last year with us, is this a year too far? It'd be easy to say he's not being picked on performance at the moment. We can't pick a team on emotion can we?

Thought our 2 biggest problems last night were the terrible distribution from half back and individual errors in defense.

The balls from our acting half back were more often than not woeful from Latu - either infront or behind the runner or too high or too low - leaving the big fella's with no chance of timing their runs, something that Tronc and Gledhill particularly seemed to struggle with more than most yesterday, this left us on the back foot for most of the game.

Individual erros cost us deerly in defense, shocking numbering up and communication on the left hand side leaving us exposed. Blanch didn't have the pace to correct his (and more often Gleeson's) bad position and decisions. We decided to give them the outside, and they had the pace to take it - but we seemed to learn the lesson when Gleeson went off and we changed things. 2 tries and 10 points leaked before we start. Then we have, what appeared to be (from a long way away behind the sticks) a howler from Blaymire for their 3rd try - anybody seen a replay of it? 14 daft points leaked.

Whilst I don't doubt that Wire had another gear or maybe 2, and fluffed a couple of tries (Carvell taking the wrong option with a 3 man overlap springs to mind) and could have stepped up a notch if required, the fact is we only got beat by 16 points (16 we let in daftly) and stranger things have happened when we get close to teams after being well behind......

Kicking game was non existant, Korki and Tronc had as close to stinkers as they have had all season (aided by Latu) and with ball in hand we looked clueless, but you would expect that with a brand new/makeshift half back pairing.

We need to pull our fingers out against Cas cos I can't see us getting any change out of Wigan on Monday.

He seemed to be doing a bit of organising last night, pointing and showing the lads where to be - if he can continue to do this and stamp his influence as you say he might come good at 6 with BJ at 7.

Yes another good post highlighting some valid points.