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| Might keep the another prop brigade happy . He's 6' 3" and 16 st 7lb lol.
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| Didn't he use the sacking of Chester as an excuse at the time
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Didn't he use the sacking of Chester as an excuse at the time'"
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| Water under the bridge. The club management are not stupid and if the reason he pulled out last time was not genuine, then I don't think we'd have touched him. Well done to the management!
He's quality, and the utility player we all wanted. He's committed for 2 years so, another clean slate for me, I'm just pleased we got him!
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Didn't he use the sacking of Chester as an excuse at the time'"
If you believe the stuff peddled on here and in the cheap media.
Tell you what, lets only sign players who only ever wanted to play for Trinity since birth. That should work
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I don't know what happened, why don't you tell me and then I can decide whether to change my opinion?'"
I pretty much have, but if it helps, family issues without getting too personal, we all have them.
He doesn't have to justify his decision anymore than Miller does going to Cas or any of the players who turn other clubs down to join us. The deal at the time just fell through and we were compensated. He isn't the first and won't be the last person on this planet to make a decision in good faith only to quickly realise he's made the wrong one, have you never done that?
We have signed a classy player who can cover a multitude of positions, that's good enough for me.
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| Quote ="vastman"I pretty much have, but if it helps, family issues without getting too personal, we all have them.
He doesn't have to justify his decision anymore than Miller does going to Cas or any of the players who turn other clubs down to join us. The deal at the time just fell through and we were compensated. He isn't the first and won't be the last person on this planet to make a decision in good faith only to quickly realise he's made the wrong one, have you never done that?
We have signed a classy player who can cover a multitude of positions, that's good enough for me.'"
That's fair enough, and I'm happy to change my opinion when I have more details.
I agree he's a very good player. I think his signing finishes the backs off for now, but I still think there'll be an opportunity for Shaul to return as the season goes on.
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| Personally I'm a bit peeved with Miller going to cas, but I think we have a better all round player in Langi, and if what I hear about last seasons transfer is true all of us would have done the same.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Personally I'm a bit peeved with Miller going to cas, but I think we have a better all round player in Langi, and if what I hear about last seasons transfer is true all of us would have done the same.'"
Certainly more versatile.
I'd say that's the recruitment done for now, leave a bit in reserve, no point covering injuries we don't yet have.
Someone said you can't have to many props, but in truth you can if none of your props get injured but all your hookers do. I think any coach will keep a bit aside for that eventuality. If we need another prop come July then we will get one, but if we don't, money in the bank.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"[uPersonally I'm a bit peeved with Miller going to cas,[/u but I think we have a better all round player in Langi, and if what I hear about last seasons transfer is true all of us would have done the same.'"
Purely out of interest and nothing else, would it have been less annoying had Miller gone to say Saints or some other club barring Cas?, because I'm not happy he went there.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Purely out of interest and nothing else, would it have been less annoying had Miller gone to say Saints or some other club barring Cas?, because I'm not happy he went there.'"
For me it was worse that he went to Cas.
But the more realistic part of me says he has to go where the offer is.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Purely out of interest and nothing else, would it have been less annoying had Miller gone to say Saints or some other club barring Cas?, because I'm not happy he went there.'"
Yes it would, anywhere but cas.
I don't comment on players usually, just thought it was a bit of a kick for our fans, and MC who I think has done alright by him over his time here.
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| Welcome on board Semisoni.
He is a quality player, and will add depth to the centres and halves. He's also a pretty big unit too, so would think he could cover the back row in emergency.
I just hope the reasons why he gave a uturn on us last time are l in the past
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| Quote ="chissitt"Purely out of interest and nothing else, would it have been less annoying had Miller gone to say Saints or some other club barring Cas?, because I'm not happy he went there.'"
He knew what he was doing when he went there, can't say I was ever that keen on him as a person anyway.
He came across quite sullen the few times I met him.
Onwards and Upwards!
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| Quote ="PopTart"For me it was worse that he went to Cas.
But the more realistic part of me says he has to go where the offer is.'"
Exactly.
We wanted to retain him on reduced terms.
He was offered improved terms at Cas. I don’t think he will have had too many other options so looking out for himself and his family in what was more than likely going to be his last opportunity to get a large contract in his rugby career then he had to make that choice.
I think as fans we sometimes forget that these lads do this as a job and have to take the emotion out of it. If they were set for life after hanging up the boots it would be a different story, but they are not.
Seen a few comments about Milky saying he did well out if the club, but it works both ways and the club didn’t do too badly out of him.
Same principle applies to Langi, his situation changed last year which resulted in his decision to turn his back on the deal. The deal has been done this year for a quality player who brings plenty to the table and hopefully early on can change the minds of those holding a grudge with his performances.
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| Langi brings something else too.
MNy overseas players take time to adjust to Super League and the weather.
He's already been through that so he should be good to go.
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| Quote ="jonh"Exactly.
We wanted to retain him on reduced terms.
He was offered improved terms at Cas. I don’t think he will have had too many other options so looking out for himself and his family in what was more than likely going to be his last opportunity to get a large contract in his rugby career then he had to make that choice.
I think as fans we sometimes forget that these lads do this as a job and have to take the emotion out of it. If they were set for life after hanging up the boots it would be a different story, but they are not.
Seen a few comments about Milky saying he did well out if the club, but it works both ways and the club didn’t do too badly out of him.
Same principle applies to Langi, his situation changed last year which resulted in his decision to turn his back on the deal. The deal has been done this year for a quality player who brings plenty to the table and hopefully early on can change the minds of those holding a grudge with his performances.'"
He was actually offered improved terms in the end from what I gather.
However it was too late in the day and he went because he’d already verbally accepted Cas terms. Honourable enough.
Truth is negotiating is a gamble and we’re not bad at it but on this occasion we probably misread the situation. You win some you lose some.
My worry with Miller FWIW is how well he my go at Cas, imo his style of play suits them. But who knows, it’s done now.
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| Quote ="vastman"He was actually offered improved terms in the end from what I gather.
However it was too late in the day and he went because he’d already verbally accepted Cas terms. Honourable enough.
Truth is negotiating is a gamble and we’re not bad at it but on this occasion we probably misread the situation. You win some you lose some.
My worry with Miller FWIW is how well he my go at Cas, imo his style of play suits them. But who knows, it’s done now.'"
In the interview I've seen with Miller he doesn't mention money. He said after 8 years he felt things had got a bit stale and knowing this would be his last contract he thought a change would freshen him up. Says he's enjoying new training methods and team mates.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"In the interview I've seen with Miller he doesn't mention money. He said after 8 years he felt things had got a bit stale and knowing this would be his last contract he thought a change would freshen him up. [uSays he's enjoying new training methods and team mates[/u.'"
He’s not gonna say he hates it is he?
That getting stale comment is ironic coming from someone who ran out of attacking ideas and has no kicking game.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"In the interview I've seen with Miller he doesn't mention money. He said after 8 years he felt things had got a bit stale and knowing this would be his last contract he thought a change would freshen him up. Says he's enjoying new training methods and team mates.'"
Of course he would say that AFTER the deal had been finalised. Miller would have bit MC's hand off to stay at Wakey for three more years on the same terms he was offered at Cas. Half the fans would have loved that, half would have gone ape .
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"In the interview I've seen with Miller he doesn't mention money. He said after 8 years he felt things had got a bit stale and knowing this would be his last contract he thought a change would freshen him up. Says he's enjoying new training methods and team mates.'"
It was about money and he had a point. That’s just flim flam. Not saying there isn’t a grain of truth in the comment but that doesn’t make it the reason.
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| I was told that once our safety was secured we even discussed paying a transfer fee to get Miller out of the contract at Cas. How serious that was, or whether we actually got that far, I don't know.
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| Makey showed enormous amounts of faith in Miller and he capped all over them.
His playing record ain't great one good game out of 4 doesn't cut it and when your other contributions are below average he's been lucky.
He seemed intend of moving on and I'm prity sure Cas was his only option.
For a present Trinity captain to even contamplate such a movie speakers volumes.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I was told that once our safety was secured we even discussed paying a transfer fee to get Miller out of the contract at Cas. How serious that was, or whether we actually got that far, I don't know.'"
It got complicated as these things do. I’d say that hand on heart losing Miller was not the club’s intention but these things happen.
There is no doubt though that the situation after the Toulouse game didn’t help. We simply must avoid that this year if we are to retain the likes of Murphy,
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| Quote ="vastman"It got complicated as these things do. I’d say that hand on heart losing Miller was not the club’s intention but these things happen.
There is no doubt though that the situation after the Toulouse game didn’t help. We simply must avoid that this year if we are to retain the likes of Murphy,'"
Agree about the Toulouse point, but he was captain of that side and should take some responsibility for that performance, not throw his rattle out, it was common knowledge early on he had signed for cas, what message did that send to the rest of the team.
To be fair he played his part in the end of season run and maybe did regret it in hindsight.
But he as gone, and personally I'm not too bothered about it. but to cas is the part I don't like.
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