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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"No it's not a contract can be enforced through a verbal agreement'"
In contract law "a verbal agreement between gentlemen is as legally binding as a written one"
MC has done the morally right thing, whether you agree or disagree with it. One thing you can say for certain over the last 6-7 years MC has always acted in a morally right manor and as an ex-chairman of a community club I have had first hand experience of him doing so.
It backs up the fact the WT is a family orientated club
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| Quote ="financialtimes"In contract law "a verbal agreement between gentlemen is as legally binding as a written one"
MC has done the morally right thing, whether you agree or disagree with it. One thing you can say for certain over the last 6-7 years MC has always acted in a morally right manor and as an ex-chairman of a community club I have had first hand experience of him doing so.
It backs up the fact the WT is a family orientated club
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Yep contra contract law is pretty clear on a verbal agreement just some on here that are unaware of the legal terms of a contract whether written or verbal it makes no difference and is usually not an issue as a verbal contract is usually followed up in writing its when its not it can get tricky, clearly in this case there was an express verbal agreement no issues from me its the right thing to do is to honour it.
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| Does this means should Chester get another role within the duration of the contract we are due compensation?!
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| Don't understand why people are getting annoyed, it's an agreement between MC and C C.
Don't know why it was announced to the public in the first place.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Don't understand why people are getting annoyed, it's an agreement between MC and C C.
Don't know why it was announced to the public in the first place.'"
I suspect MC wishes he hadn’t, probably just wanted to show we are an honourable club and he is an honourable man. Doesn’t seem to count with some, probably the same ones who’d moan if we hadn’t
Truth is I suspect a contract was agreed but the announcer was held back until results improved as players returned etc. That didn’t happen but CC will have planned his future based on that verbal deal so it would be unfair to penalise him.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Does this means should Chester get another role within the duration of the contract we are due compensation?!'"
Only if that is stipulated in a contract.
As long as he pays his taxes he can have as many jobs as he likes.
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| Vasfy these are the kind of things that really let MC down.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Vasfy these are the kind of things that really let MC down.'"
No these are the things that make him look good and make me delighted people like you aren’t in charge.
You don’t know the deal, you know nothing about running a RL club yet you feel the right to criticise someone who does and saved this club from bankruptcy. Try and think for once.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Vasfy these are the kind of things that really let MC down.'"
I don’t know how you arrive at that conclusion.
MC is, as usual where money is involved, doing the honourable thing.
Why shouldn’t he say he’s honouring the contract agreed? Why do people have an issue with an employer doing the right thing to an employee?
I can’t believe some of the moans on here.
I don’t know what some posters would say if we cut his wages now and ended up in a tribunal as has happened before.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Vasfy these
are the kind of things that really let MC down.'"
Let him down to who?
No ne of us is in a position to judge but even so, the majority seem OK with it.
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| I have no interest in what the deal was and even less in running a RL club, why would I.
I don't have a problem with the agreement reached between Chester and Carter, its between them.
My feel more than comfortable expressing my opinions,
Carter let Chester down and let him take all the agro.
1315 I have never at any time disageed withe Carter's choice to pay the Chester.
Keep up with comments made before jumping in and getting things wrong.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Only if that is stipulated in a contract.
As long as he pays his taxes he can have as many jobs as he likes.'"
It would be unusual for a contract not to stipulate that a coach should only coach his employers team and not that of a rival club as well. For example, should Leigh sign up Chester, if we're honouring this agreed contract extention, by rights they should buy him out of said 'contact'. Surely it works both ways?
Anyhow we're being fast and loose with limited funding, and the fact we are paying Chester for nothing will impact his successor's chances of making a go of it.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Vasfy these are the kind of things that really let MC down.'"
It shows what a decent businessman MC actually is.
Do we want some kind of "car salesman" running the show or, someone who does things properly.
Throughout his time at the helm, MC has always gone about things the right way and this is no different and as I commented earlier, the contract is between Chester and the club and it should be left that way.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I have no interest in what the deal was and even less in running a RL club, why would I.
I don't have a problem with the agreement reached between Chester and Carter, its between them.
My feel more than comfortable expressing my opinions,
Carter let Chester down and let him take all the agro.
1315 I have never at any time disageed withe Carter's choice to pay the Chester.
Keep up with comments made before jumping in and getting things wrong.'"
I didn't say you did disagree with paying CC - please read carefully before you jump in!
I was disagreeing with you saying 'these are the kind of things that really let MC down' I just don't see why announcing that CC's contract will be honoured lets MC down at all, but we all have our own opinions.
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| The fact that MC made the announcement public.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"The fact that MC made the announcement public.'"
Ah, I get what you mean now.
I'm absolutely with you on that.
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| Thank you pop tart,
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"It would be unusual for a contract not to stipulate that a coach should only coach his employers team and not that of a rival club as well. For example, should Leigh sign up Chester, if we're honouring this agreed contract extention, by rights they should buy him out of said 'contact'. Surely it works both ways?
Anyhow we're being fast and loose with limited funding, and the fact we are paying Chester for nothing will impact his successor's chances of making a go of it.'"
When did Andy Last's contract with Hull expire? I think that they 'paid him up' and we employed him (hopefully we got him a bit 'cheaper' as a consequence )
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"It would be unusual for a contract not to stipulate that a coach should only coach his employers team and not that of a rival club as well. For example, should Leigh sign up Chester, if we're honouring this agreed contract extention, by rights they should buy him out of said 'contact'. Surely it works both ways?
Anyhow we're being fast and loose with limited funding, and the fact we are paying Chester for nothing will impact his successor's chances of making a go of it.'" shouldn't be just leigh all clubs within super league shouldn't be allowed to take his employment until his contract has expired else like you say he would need to buy out of the contract
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| Quote ="snowie"shouldn't be just leigh all clubs within super league shouldn't be allowed to take his employment until his contract has expired else like you say he would need to buy out of the contract'"
Absolute rubbish do you really believe football managers etc who get the sack don't get a severance pay off?
This is no different get over it loads of people get contracts honoured what usually happens is they get paid up similar to a redundancy payment. He hasn't got a contract anymore he is a free agent he can do what he likes it's a free country not a tin pot regime good luck to him for the future
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Absolute rubbish do you really believe football managers etc who get the sack don't get a severance pay off?
This is no different get over it loads of people get contracts honoured what usually happens is they get paid up similar to a redundancy payment. He hasn't got a contract anymore he is a free agent he can do what he likes it's a free country not a tin pot regime good luck to him for the future'"
Not really sure how it works but I think it works on the lines of they get paid weekly/monthly as long as they are out of work, and as soon as they are re employed the wages stop or when the contract ends, it's more noticeable in football where sacked managers (high profile ones anyway) are reluctant to rush into another job because of the high wages they are drawing.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Not really sure how it works but I think it works on the lines of they get paid weekly/monthly as long as they are out of work, and as soon as they are re employed the wages stop or when the contract ends, it's more noticeable in football where sacked managers (high profile ones anyway) are reluctant to rush into another job because of the high wages they are drawing.'"
Some take a while to take on a new role but others move into a new post quite quickly.
If they get paid out with a few hundred thousand quid, it certainly takes any desperation out of needing to find a new job.
It's similar is someone gets a hefty redundancy package, they dont need to find a new job as quickly.
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| It's all down to what is agreed between Carter and Chester.
There is no rule to say he can't get another job.
There is no rule to say he has to be paid monthly.
It's an agreement between them.
If you leave a company by mutual consent you have a termination agreement to state the rules. This is no different. They may have written it down or may not.
I'd also say, coaches wages don't come under the salary cap rules so the payment does not affect that.
And because of that. The payment can come from anywhere, not necessarily out of club funds.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Some take a while to take on a new role but others move into a new post quite quickly.
If they get paid out with a few hundred thousand quid, it certainly takes any desperation out of needing to find a new job.
It's similar is someone gets a hefty redundancy package, they dont need to find a new job as quickly.'"
The mistake is mixing the 2 sports up, I would suggest that even the lowest paid premiership manager will be on at least 20k a week which equates to a million pound a year without add ons, all the top managers presumably will be on the best part of 50k to100k a week and with those top jobs being scarce would not be in any rush to find a new job although nobody knows for certain rumours have it that with the sort of money some of these coaches are on some of the premiership clubs can't afford to pay them out in full and are more than happy to pay them weekly, conversely in the real world some of the super league coaches will be on less money than some posters on here especially if your a lorry driver, and it far more difficult to get another head coaches job therefore relying on a decent pay off as against a weekly wage so to speak bearing in mind the terms of the individuals contract, not privvy to any information but I would imagine Chester's pay off will be far easier manageable with a weekly pay day as against a one off payment.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Absolute rubbish do you really believe football managers etc who get the sack don't get a severance pay off?
This is no different get over it loads of people get contracts honoured what usually happens is they get paid up similar to a redundancy payment. He hasn't got a contract anymore he is a free agent he can do what he likes it's a free country not a tin pot regime good luck to him for the future'"
I've not a problem with it just saying in normal working contracts there's normally a clause that prevent them working within a period for a competitor you can hardly think that chessie is going to be a threat against the club in any way
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