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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I'm clearly in a minority here. Buts what's this 9 missing. Name me 8 first choice players in that 17 saints put out today. I'm sorry but they only had 4/5 . At the risk of repeating myself they handed London 2 points today. If they do the same against us in a couple of weeks and all the other teams in the relegation battle then fair enough. But they won't. It stinks'"
Coote, Makinson, Percival, Naiqama, Fages, Lomax, Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Taia, Peyroux. Paulo was out of position too. Only Grace, LMS, Lees, Knowles, Amor and Paulo are first teamers today
I’m sure they could argue that playing Saints 3 times stinks in the first place
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Touchè.
Just stop looking to blame other clubs for our inability to do our job?'"
I'm not, we are beyond crap at the moment. Just don't think what saints did today is fair on us, hkr, hudds and leeds
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Coote, Makinson, Percival, Naiqama, Fages, Lomax, Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Taia, Peyroux. Paulo was out of position too. Only Grace, LMS, Lees, Knowles, Amor and Paulo are first teamers today
I’m sure they could argue that playing Saints 3 times stinks in the first place'"
Not put it very well. Meant they only had 4/5 playing..not missing
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"It's not disrespectful at all. London could only beat what was in front of them. But it is disrespectful of saints to the competition imo. There are 5 teams fighting relegation and this is the second time they have done this against London. Basically handing them a 4 point advantage.'"
So what there are 5 teams fighting for relegation!
Do you think there should only be one or a couple of teams fighting it out?
You shouldn't be in this situation as the majority of you thought a top 5 spot was a walk in pre-season.
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| Am I right in thinking that in the early days of Ferguson's tenure at Man Ure, weren't they severely punished for deliberately fielding a much weakened side prior to an important cup game? I suppose Saints current status could be compared to theirs.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Am I right in thinking that in the early days of Ferguson's tenure at Man Ure, weren't they severely punished for deliberately fielding a much weakened side prior to an important cup game? I suppose Saints current status could be compared to theirs.'"
Am i right in thinking that this has nothing to do with Saints but Wakefield not winning enough matches?
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| Quote ="Bigboff"Am i right in thinking that this has nothing to do with Saints but Wakefield not winning enough matches?'"
Yes you are correct. With Hull KR and London still to play, we will only have ourselves to blame if we go down
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I'm not, we are beyond crap at the moment. Just don't think what saints did today is fair on us, hkr, hudds and leeds'"
If Wakefield were ten points clear in the league, and in a CC semi final, would you suggest that Chester picks his team according to what's fair on everyone else?
Saints have suited themselves. Why you think they have obligations to any other club bar thwr own is beyond me.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"If Wakefield were ten points clear in the league, and in a CC semi final, would you suggest that Chester picks his team according to what's fair on everyone else?
Saints have suited themselves. Why you think they have obligations to any other club bar thwr own is beyond me.'"
It's called 'clutching at straws'.
Point the finger at someone else, don't agree with Bigboff at all but he's bang on.
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| Don’t blame Saints, blame the RFL.
The fact a team can make so many changes without facing any sanctions is a joke and casts a massive shadow on the integrity of the competition.
The only thing I’d question Saints about is why in 23 games, they’ve chosen to field severely weakened teams against the same opponent twice?
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"Not put it very well. Meant they only had 4/5 playing..not missing'"
Regular SL players in red
Welsby; =#FF0000Swift, Costello, Simm, =#FF4000Grace; =#FF0000Paulo, Richardson; McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Smith, Lees, Batchelor, =#FF0000Bentley, Knowles.
Replacements: =#FF0000Amor, Ashworth, Eaves, Hazzard.
I make it 11 SL players who’ve played regularly or have masses of SL experience. No where near as drastic as some are making out!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Regular SL players in red
Welsby; =#FF0000Swift, Costello, Simm, =#FF4000Grace; =#FF0000Paulo, Richardson; McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Smith, Lees, Batchelor, =#FF0000Bentley, Knowles.
Replacements: =#FF0000Amor, Ashworth, Eaves, Hazzard.
I make it 11 SL players who’ve played regularly or have masses of SL experience. No where near as drastic as some are making out!'"
Wouldn’t matter to me who saints put out. It’s who is wearing the red white and blue and the way they are playing that is the problem
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Regular SL players in red
Welsby; =#FF0000Swift, Costello, Simm, =#FF4000Grace; =#FF0000Paulo, Richardson; McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Smith, Lees, Batchelor, =#FF0000Bentley, Knowles.
Replacements: =#FF0000Amor, Ashworth, Eaves, Hazzard.
I make it 11 SL players who’ve played regularly or have masses of SL experience. No where near as drastic as some are making out!'"
Sad thing is they would probably have beaten our lot, with Paulo and Richardson outshining our pair!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Regular SL players in red
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I make it 11 SL players who’ve played regularly or have masses of SL experience. No where near as drastic as some are making out!'"
You can argue the point that what saints today is fair enough. But for god's sake don't stretch the point that they played 11 first choice players today. Touch disingenuous
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"You can argue the point that what saints today is fair enough. But for god's sake don't stretch the point that they played 11 first choice players today. Touch disingenuous'"
Learn to read, I said regulars or have masses of SL experience, I didn’t say first choice.
Some on here are making out as if Sts played their U16s
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Learn to read, I said regulars or have masses of SL experience, I didn’t say first choice.
Some on here are making out as if Sts played their U16s'"
I can read thanks ..but I take your point. However to make out the 17 they put out today is anything but seriously weak is incorrect. Hope they give us the same chance in a fortnight , however the way we are playing we'd still get tonked!
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| saints have earned the right to rest players - Melbourne storm did it this weekend in the NRL to.
they don't owe anybody anything - they have earnt this right by winning games and getting themselves in a great position.
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| Just as point of note, and on the assumption they beat Halifax, Saints play Leeds the week before the challenge cup final.....
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as point of note, and on the assumption they beat Halifax, Saints play Leeds the week before the challenge cup final.....'"
they will probably do the same there ,
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| It’s a very sad time for this club that we venting our frustrations albeit warranted in some ways at another club for our demise .Cleary our destiny is in our own hands and needs to be clearly spelt out to all concerned by MC just what he expects of them in the coming weeks ,and make them realise the buck has to stop with them .Its a very frustrating time to be a fan at the club as as it’s plain for all to see that there is a problem in the camp, what that is I haven’t a clue, but let’s just hope we can get the wins required to save us from the dreaded and then get this problem out in the open and get it sorted once and for all and move on to the next season in the top flight once again .
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as point of note, and on the assumption they beat Halifax, Saints play Leeds the week before the challenge cup final.....'"
Bloody hell, we'd better start hoping that Halifax cause the cup shock of the 21st century.
With Warrington going backwards at a rate of knots, Saints could play their second string in every game till the end of the season and still collect the LLS.
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| Quote ="deeHell"How utterly embarrassing. In the space of 3 months we've gone from talking about a top 3 finish and a cup run to moaning about London playing a weakened Saints team and this just after we've been hammered by a weakened Wigan team. Our problems and destiny lay within not with other teams.'"
our club should never talk about a top 3 finish- while we have no money and no stadium - our sole focus every year is not getting relegated- I for one are happy every year if that happens - this year is becoming a worry though.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"our club should never talk about a top 3 finish- while we have no money and no stadium - our sole focus every year is not getting relegated- I for one are happy every year if that happens - this year is becoming a worry though.'"
Totally agree, my hopes every year as a Trin fan are not getting relegated and good stadium news.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="BOJ042"our club should never talk about a top 3 finish- while we have no money and no stadium - our sole focus every year is not getting relegated- I for one are happy every year if that happens - this year is becoming a worry though.'"
What does the stadium have to do with finishing in the top three?
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| Quote ="little wayne69"What does the stadium have to do with finishing in the top three?'"
Potentially giving the club the revenue needed to compete at that level.
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