I think PB that the old ABC comes under phase three.

Regarding the "good old days" I had them, did the Tiffs, Mitre etc but as you say those days are gone, and that's the same for all towns and cities. Cities need to reinvent themselves as Manchester and more so Leeds have done, two incredibly vibrant cities. OK, we're probably ten years behind Leeds but at least the change has begun.
Everything (thankfully) is being stripped back in cities, no more is it compulsory to sit in bland stainless steel decorated bars, it's brick, mortar, wooden benches and a drinking pub style character. Plenty of options with Craft beer/Real ale/Homebrew which ever you want to call it.
We go into town regularly, we did good Friday this year, pubs nicely full, not full of knobs, stayed round Unity area till probably midnight, it felt safe as houses walking to the taxi rank.
A serious question Dave and not being y but when was the last time you went round the Unity part of Wakefield?
It was about five years since I was persuaded to give it ago and was relatively surprised, up to then I hadn't been in town for a night out for probably ten years.
If we need another SWAG meeting we ought to do that part of town.

As an outsider I probably see the improvements in Wakefield a bit more clearly, certainly over the last 5 years there's been great improvements all over the city, with further plans it'll all come together eventually. Got to agree about the area around Unity, great bars and nightlife.

Something along those lines crossed my mind. I am that sick of Wakefield Council. They don't deserve to have a club in the City. The name Trinity occurred to me too as the most important thing and I thought, you know what, I live in Beverley anyway! If they can get better suited elsewhere. a Trinity fan I will be...somewhere else! But I didn't like to say!

can tell you exactly when, it was the night prior to this years general election and I actually had a couple of pints in the Unity Hall bar on the corner.

I even have an alibi as I was drinking with TRB and the armoureddildo

I stand by everything I posted, alas I can't account for the company you keep.

Serious question : Back in the day 60/70's you could go around the City pubs and by the many pictures you could tell it was an RL City and we had an high profile club.

I don't go in all the present bars, but other than Harrys bar I don't think you would know RL existed in Wakey, may be I drink in the wrong places but is there anywhere were the club or the game have a profile.

It's closed again now but the Elephant and castle had a blackboard which advertised that all Trinity matches would be shown on Monday evening, but yes there aren't many places that appear to support Wakefield.
An interesting aside, on Normy precinct practically opposite each other are the Midland and the Ole int wall pubs, the Midland always has a Cas flag in the window. Lately, allegedly, the landlords had a bit of a falling out. The ole int wall now has Wakey signs, beer mats (I'm assuming snowies) and Wakefield trinity road signs fastened on the wall, I think the corridor out to the beer garden is called Trinity walk or Trinity way, childish but made me laugh.

The Redoubt on Horbury rd has always been a good rugby league pub. Sells Trinity beer also

Went out in Cas after the game on Good Friday and pretty much every pub was rammed with people in Cas shirts, had framed Cas shirts all over the walls and had Cas flags and other stuff like that all over as well. I know it was a bank holiday so will have been busier than normal but never seen anything like that in Wakefield which is pretty sad really. Barely anyone cares anymore.

Pot Oil in Wrenthorpe showed Trin games on a Monday night
Up the Trin

Few years back went in that so called sports bar on Westgate. Nothing RL or Wakey in it, total joke to call itself a sports bar.

You must have been the only person legally allowed in there

You should have seen it the Friday night before the 1979 cup final it was buzzing in Wakefield everybody had red white and blue hats and scarfs on remember going in the old speakeasy that night it was great loads of excitement and support for the club there was a lot interest in that Wembley team with players like Dave topliss , T skerret J Burke and the one and only W.ashurst.so what did the club do after the cup final sold the best players off for big money and we ended up in the old second division killed a lot of interest off in the city did that,that's what poor management does kills interest .

Completely agree. I've lived in the city all my life, but am now at the stage, after recent developments where i couldn't care less if Wakefield is in the club name or not.
Not just the council, but also the vast majority of people living within the area, do not deserve the RL side we currently have. If that can be continued and possibly improved upon by moving slightly out of the region, lets get on with it. Be it Dewsbury, Barnsley etc. I will follow them wherever (within reason!)

I don't get all this is the fight over and we toddle off somewhere else. As fans we should lobby Mary Creah's chambers in cheapside and the town hall maybe the TV cameras would turn up. We've been here over a hundred years why should we change our name and move out of OUR city. We should fight on and I am sure eventually come to our aid . I think keep going and something will give. Prove to the powers that be we are going nowhere and if we lose we will get these people the worst publicity they have ever had. Makes my blood boil. End of rant

I realise we may have to move out of the city in the short term but the goal has to be to move back as quickly as possible.
You can take Trinity out of Wakefield (on a temp basis) but not Wakefield out of Trinity
Just my own view and I respect anybody's own take on things

This.

Barnsley are currently refurbishing their town centre and the new Cineworld is to incorporate a new ten pin bowling alley. I certainly think to include a bowling alley in the proposed new Wakefield cinema would generate a much busier night scene (which is what they wanted to do) than retail outlets would. we have too many shops standing empty. Woods music shop in Wood Street must have been stood empty for nearly ten years. In fact the whole Wood Street/Northgate area has become devoid of human life.

I also visit Canterbury regularly Beagle and, find it to be one of the most vibrant cities that I have visited. the main street is thronging with (mainly) young folk, plenty of big name shops and a generally "doing well" feeling to the place.

Hated that place myself. At least it's not there anymore, turned into Lala's restaurant bar.

I know we've had a bit of a thread drift but anyway, as a bit of positive spin about a place in Wakefield. Anyone tried out the new Qubana's, which is where Barclay's Bank was on Wood street. I went the other month & they've done an absolutely awesome job turning that place into something really special imo. The food is exceptional, the roof top terrace they've created, where you can have a drink is really something different.
I went for someone's birthday and they'd hired a special private room out for the occasion, it was all really top class. The atmosphere in the place is also great. All of which is why I've taken the other half a couple more times since.



On the subject of improvements in Wakefield, the Restaurant scene has literally come on night and day in the City. It wasn't really that long ago, going to a restaurant in Wakey wouldn't have crossed my mind, it was always Leeds. But with places like Brazuca Rodizio, Iris, Cow Shed, Joe's Tapas, Olive and Meze & Amaia etc, I rarely have to venture far to find a really nice place to have a great meal out.

I actually quite miss going for a game of ten pin bowling now and again in Wakefield, used to always have a good laugh down there.

I'm the same, i started Ten pin bowling back in the mid 60's in what is now the Gala bingo club on George Street and then at the bowling alley on the old Theatre club site at Belle Vue.
I have kept up playing on a fairly regular basis and still go when i visit my daughter down in Kent as she lives near a Ten pin bowling alley. Thing is there's a bowling alley just up the M62 at Xscape in Castleford of all places and nothing in Wakefield. Looks like we have been shafted again.

I think Kev is right. Wakefield as a town centre has been ruined by a council bereft of ideas of regeneration. Cllr Jeffrey is responsible for Wakefield Town Centre regeneration and is obsessed with trying to turn it into a Meadowhall or Trafford Centre. Any developer at all waving money gets free rein. They are flattening Rishworth Street Car Park and leaving the land as a bait for would be investors. They are not interested in the small businesses that made the town centre so vibrant in the past. They absolutely massacred the market and end up with a few stalls in the ridings! Now they want another multi screen cinema where the old one was! We really are desperate for that aren't we!
Sorry! Makes me so angey when you see what is happening in Leeds for instance, yes, a bigger scale but they know the value of a town centre. They integrate the malls within the city. Trinity Walk simply isolates it. The Ridings added to the centre of Wakefield because it was integrated and connected.
Nuff said