How the ref didnt see it amazes me, is he not supposed to keep an eye on the play the ball in case there is interference, if not how is he able to tell a reef of the ball from loosing the ball.

Think you may find it was Snitch that gave the penalty away.

Think you may find it was Pryce who conned the ref and tried to cheat Saints into a draw they didn't deserve. Good job Wellens couldn't kick for toffee!

both the last 2 posts are inaccurate

it was a dead set penalty and it was Korki - simples

I agree. Sky have hyped up the "Pryce factor" but Korki had his hand on the ball and the ball spilled out. Even if Pryce helped him, he was holding the ball hard enough that when released his arm came out with the ball.
Penalty, plain and simple.

I think if you read my post properly you'll find that I said that JD "should have shown true leadership qualities and taken the tackle" - commenting on one incident rather in isolation rather than on his overall performance. I didn't actually criticise his overall leadership - which for once seemed to be there.

I'm perfectly happy to say that I think that JD is past it & I hope that we can see him go out on a high note this year because I don't think he's got another year at SL level in the tank.

if the offload had paid off he would of been carried back to the changing rooms, as nerve racking as it is I like the die hard/devil may care attitude

think you could find half a dozen incidents that could have changed the game. if it had come off he would have been a hero. if korki and snitch had not tackled pryce and let him go over the line they would have been damned. if danny had not kicked out on the full... if if if. we won end of story we won 2 points. as far as jd is concerned, the man is a great captain. leads from the front. gives 150%, his stats stand up pretty good against players 5 years younger than him. busts more tackles than most . i would give him another season gladly. an inspiration to all, an example to many. truly is captain fantastic on the field and off.

You won't find anyone agreeing more than me that if is the biggest word in the English language & Friday's result was chip paper on Saturday. The future is all that really matters & the simple fact is that JD is not the future. Some have criticised the signing of Newton because "he's too old" but he's 3 years younger than JD.

If JD was with (say) the Bulls now - giving the sort of performance he's given for us over the years - and we were considering signing him for one last hurrah next year, there'd be no end of the posts criticising such a signing. In the era of the salary cap, there is simply no room for giving contracts for sentimental reasons. JD has been a fantastic servant to the club, but we need to have a squad in 2010 that is better than this year's and provides a sound foundation for the squad in 2011 & beyond. I'd love to see JD continuing to be involved with the club - just not as part of the playing staff.

i'd agree with most of that. think newton is a good signing for next season, along with a few more. sounds like we will have a great pack. and the quality of the team will improve overall, but still think jd would have a part to play on the field and when he does hang his boots up, think brough might make a good captain.

he is already signed for next year based on his ability .

Fair enough Con. Can't say I entirely agree with it but if he's signed on the dotted line then that can't be changed (not as if little old me could influence that either

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I hope JD is able to play on at a high enough level that meets the fans & more importantly his own expectations because he's been a great servant to the club and he deserves to go out on a high.

this is not Con please stop worring about JD .

Someone else pointed out, Demetriou is not the type of man to kid himself if he feels his body unable to meet the physical demands of the game.

If he feels it’s time to call it a day then he will.

That was his dad!

Well no one knows him better I suppose!



He seems a pretty level headed guy even though he has family ties in this respect. He never rants just because someone criticises his son so I think I will take heed of what he says over others.

i think he has another year in him.

he has played more games than most squad members this season and the vast majority of those at a very high level in a position he wasn't used to.

Stuck record but if he's staying another year I hope it's in the centres.

not sure he has the speed but certainly would be an option there

Don't think he ever really had speed but he has strength/power and it would be less physically demanding.

Think JD has one more year left in him, but I would like to see him properly fit everyweek and not put his body on the line everyweek, if you've got a niggle rest it. He's still an important part of our side regarding breaks and leadership but he's got to realise how to increase his playing days.

Perhaps similar comparison could be giggs, changed posistion and now plays half of the game and is involved in the important matches when the coach can depend on him.

Ferguson has one major advantage over us - no salary cap. Can we afford to have someone who, hypothetically, can't play every game?

I dont advocate crowd violence.
Never seen an eye hanging out of a sockett and pretty confident i never will when somebody is shoved in the face by someone holding a rugby ball.

Think you should go to specsavers

If your perfectly happy to say that JD is past it then i hope you will be perfectly happy to look at how many points he has in the M.O.M. standings as voted for by the supporters. It seems perfectly clear that he is way ahead of most of his team mates. JD has plenty in the tank - plenty -he is a pros pro and rated very highly by a Mr Kear a man who knows more about RL than you and i and many others put together.