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| Rocky is far better than Gaskell is now 5 year ago would have agreed with you .When you going to say Chester as had a habit of buying players past there sale buy date or 80% of them .
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| Quote ="alegend"Rocky is far better than Gaskell is now 5 year ago would have agreed with you .When you going to say Chester as had a habit of buying players past there sale buy date or 80% of them .'"
No, he isn't. He's a fitter more versatile player perhaps but he'll never run a game.
Really, like who?
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| Gaskell has chronic injuries to two of the three hamstring muscles, can’t be fixed only nursed along but he’ll suffer trouble with it throughout. We knew this, Huddersfield were very candid about it, but we signed him anyway and crossed our fingers that he’d play enough to justify it.
Hopefully he will as when he strings a few games together he’s very good.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why?
So to avoid that then we never let a player go?
Come on, he’s a decent player but he’s not an Ellis or Solomona.
I don't think we need to make any kind of issue out of this, teams and clubs move on.
Personally, I’m happy for the lad.'"
So aftet telling me to move on ! 5 pages and 12 replies later you still babbling on ! Its your point of view theres enough posters on here who dont agree ckplus Andy Last who knows what Roy is capable of, Stop being so bitter and twisted you really do need to get a life.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"So aftet telling me to move on ! 5 pages and 12 replies later you still babbling on ! Its your point of view theres enough posters on here who dont agree ckplus Andy Last who knows what Roy is capable of, Stop being so bitter and twisted you really do need to get a life.'"
Yeah wishing him all the best is really bitter and twisted. Try reading the posts before talking garbage.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Gaskell has chronic injuries to two of the three hamstring muscles, can’t be fixed only nursed along but he’ll suffer trouble with it throughout. We knew this, Huddersfield were very candid about it, but we signed him anyway and crossed our fingers that he’d play enough to justify it.
Hopefully he will as when he strings a few games together he’s very good.'"
Shoulder injury this time I think?
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| Quote ="chissitt"He wasn't even at the game, yet he can still find time for a sarcastic comment.'"
What can I say but I bow to your all encompassing knowledge. I am just not worthy to be on the same forum as you, those years in the HGV were not all wasted.
You are correct always time for a sarcastic comment especially when it involves you.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yeah wishing him all the best is really bitter and twisted. Try reading the posts before talking garbage.
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Its you who wants to read the post sado it says could bite us on the bum ! COULD COULD we will have to wait and see, oh tip for you this week the weather will be dry this saturday another you got wrong
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Gaskell has chronic injuries to two of the three hamstring muscles, can’t be fixed only nursed along but he’ll suffer trouble with it throughout. We knew this, Huddersfield were very candid about it, but we signed him anyway and crossed our fingers that he’d play enough to justify it.
Hopefully he will as when he strings a few games together he’s very good.'"
He's good when he plays. But he will not play anywhere near enough. I might as well be in the squad
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| MC said we are not a selling club now, well that's perfectly true we just release a local young player who never let the club down and replaced him with an older version.
Not only that we then have to loan a full back adding more expense, Great bit of business.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Wrong again poppy he's signed untill the end of the season, in Rocky's place we signed an injury prone player who could'nt finish his 1st game a player to cover fullback and half back and because of his injury we now have no cover at fullback, so we have to get a player in on loan and have to pay more wages! Great bit of business, lets see at the end of the season who ends up with the better deal us or cas.'"
Looks like our Cas expert was right. Cas have announced Hampshire contract for rest of year.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Looks like our Cas expert was right. Cas have announced Hampshire contract for rest of year.'"
Not an expert really! Theres people who say they have contacts
And there theres people have contacts
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What can I say but I bow to your all encompassing knowledge.[u I am just not worthy to be on the same forum as you, those years in the HGV were not all wasted. [/u
You are correct always time for a sarcastic comment especially when it involves you.'"
It's fulfilling to know you appreciate it especially as you seem obsessed with my career as an HGV driver, as for sarcastic comments in most cases I've found them a poor substitute for a lack of knowledge.
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| Wish him all the best. Never gave anything less than 100% for us. It’s a short career so can never judge anyone for getting the most money they can.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Not an expert really! Theres people who say they have contacts
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Going to miss him what a shame
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| Quote ="chissitt"It's fulfilling to know you appreciate it especially as you seem obsessed with my career as an HGV driver, as for sarcastic comments in most cases I've found them a poor substitute for a lack of knowledge.'"
HGV drivers keep the country running.
If that's what you do or did. Good on you.
Anyone who belittles that doesn't understand how things work.
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| Great player while he was here like lots before him ,we’ve had players much better and much worse than him over the years , some we lament in their departure and some we rejoice ,Rocky was deffo in the former, but I’m much more concerned with our present squad of which we have a couple of huge games ahead of us than scoring brownie points on a IMO a pointless thread . He was great for us ,he’s gone , move on
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Its you who wants to read the post sado it says could bite us on the bum ! COULD COULD we will have to wait and see, oh tip for you this week the weather will be dry this saturday
another you got wrong
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Can't you actually communicate without getting abusive? Shows what an ignorant person you really are, a first-class example of why are game lags so far behind all others.
Any player and I mean any player could come back and bite our BUM not just your beloved Ryan, that's how it works, so why pick on him. You are so creepily obsessed by this player you seem to be more interested in his future than those of the 30 honest and decent players who actually play for us, that is truly pathetic.
[i[size=150Ryan is a good little player who gave us great service, he also has time on his side and I hope he does well. If it helps your martyr complex, I'd have preferred it if we'd kept Ryan but for whatever reason, we didn't and to most normal fans that's an end to it.
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NOW TELL US ALL WHAT BIT OF THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS YOU?
Your last line, could you be any more infantile? Seriously how pathetic are you, oh and a TOP tip, I actually hoped the conditions would be dry tough I never made any attempt to predict the weather, it's Thursday for christ's sake! This is yet another example of your innate inability to not read stuff properly and thus look utterly foolish.
Still Pimps on your side, that must feel good
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| I personally never got the Hampshire hype. He did ok for us but for me he is a below average Super League player at both Half and Fullback.
If you look at our current squad for me he is not better than Miller or Lino and I also think Gaskell is a better player than him as well. I also think it is obvious that Max is a better Fullback.
He did ok for us over the past few years but nothing more than that and the fact he never nailed down a fixed starting position speaks volumes for me.
I think the love some people seem to have for him is because he is a local lad which I do understand but I don't think anyone would have been sad to see him go if he was say from Wigan or Bradford or Hull.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I personally never got the Hampshire hype. He did ok for us but for me he is a below average Super League play at both Half and Fullback.
If you look at our current squad for me he is not better than Miller or Lino and I also think Gaskell is a better player than him as well. I also think it is obvious that Max is a better Fullback.
He did ok for us over the past few years but nothing more than that and the fact he never nailed down a fixed starting position speaks volumes for me.
I think the love some people seem to have for him is because he is a local lad which I do understand but I don't think anyone would have been sad to see him go if he was say from Wigan or Bradford or Hull.'"
Ever since he joined the club he's been used by some as an object to beat the club with. We don't owe Ryan Hampshire anything, he didn't come up from our Academy so the local lad stuff has no validity at all.
When a player comes through the Trinity system and is let go I understand the upset it causes. Ryan is a Wigan product and that makes him no different to Gaskell who is a Saints product. Where you are born only counts if you pledge yourself to that club from day one.
I don't blame him or his family, I suspect I would do the same but people can't turn around and expect us to show special favours to said player. I don't believe for a moment that's Ryans' attitude but it sure seems to be the mindset of some on here.
I get the impression that when we played Cas they won't be interested in how well Jowitt plays, it will be Hampshire they want to have a blinder so they can have one big collective 'I told you so'.
Maybe it's me and I'm out of step but that doesn't sound like supporting your team that sounds like supporting your own ego.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"MC said we are not a selling club now, well that's perfectly true we just release a local young player who never let the club down and replaced him with an older version.
Not only that we then have to loan a full back adding more expense, Great bit of business.'"
Do you know how much Gaskell is paid?
Do you know how much the loan of Escare is costing Wakefield?
Do you know that those 2 figures added together are greater than the figure it would have cost us to retain Hampshire?
I suspect the answer on all 3 counts is NO YOU DON'T, so how do you know it's bad business???
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| The reason why the inability to sign Rocky is so frustrating, gutting, disappointing is that he is a very rare commodity in that he is a naturally gifted supremely talented Rugby League player. The game at all levels if full of tough, brave, fit players who will run at brick walls all day and attempt to tackle everything that moves, I am in awe of these lads and full of admiration for them, my favourite players, Nigel Bell, John Burke, Hendo, Trevor Skerett, Duncan McGilvary all had these attributes in bucket loads. Lets be fair all clubs have these types of players and all teams need them but they are a comparatively common commodity. You will remember that in the old days there was a saying about just calling down the pit and getting a prop forward etc. Real star quality is rare, players with guile, players who can break down a defence with speed, footwork, slight of hand, skill rather than brute force, these players are the difference in making a good side great, a mid table side a top 4 team, and guiding a team fighting relegation to safety. From a very early age in local junior rugby any good judge could see that Rocky was special, and if you just watch his highlights for us you can easily see that he just a natural, look at the way he reads a break and is always in the right place - just like Shaun Edwards, look at the way he creates openings from nothing, add to that his brilliant defence. These players are rare and very hard for us to get our hands on as the ones with these talents are picked off by the big clubs as juniors. When we get a specially talented player it is also very difficult for us to keep hold of them, Nigel Wright, Toppo, McShane, Soloamoana, Brough all left either because we needed the transfer fee or were tapped up. These players were all match winners. Rocky is a match winner, he is class, he is a special talent and we should have kept him as the likes of him do not come around often for the likes of us. To make matters utterly unbearable we now have to watch him shine is a Cas shirt. Any good judge knows that we have made an error and this nonsense about supporting the team rather the player is silly talk.
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| For me Rocky covered a few positions for me he never mastered one and made it his own. Not necessarily his fault but he was a squad player. His time came to go whether the club did or didn't offer him a deal is irrelevant. Good luck to him at Cas he moves on we move on
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| Quote ="lampyboy"MC said we are not a selling club now, well that's perfectly true we just release a local young player who never let the club down and replaced him with an older version.
Not only that we then have to loan a full-back adding more expense, Great bit of business.'"
The same local lad who wouldn't join his local teams Academy, oh brilliant piece of hypocrisy there.
What exactly do you know about running an RL team? How unbelievably arrogant to think you know more than a guy who's been doing it for 8 years and a coach who's been at the heart of the British game for 20 years. Opinions are one thing but to make the derisory statement that it was a 'Great bit of business', without a shred of knowledge as to what actually transpired can't go unchallenged.
Trinity should do an open day where all the know it alls on here get to run the club for a week, then they would see just how tough it is and how difficult decisions have to be made. The problem is the club wouldn't last more than a week under their guidance so it will have to be strictly first-come only one served affair.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"The reason why the inability to sign Rocky is so frustrating, gutting, disappointing is that he is a very rare commodity in that he is a naturally gifted supremely talented Rugby League player. The game at all levels if full of tough, brave, fit players who will run at brick walls all day and attempt to tackle everything that moves, I am in awe of these lads and full of admiration for them, my favourite players, Nigel Bell, John Burke, Hendo, Trevor Skerett, Duncan McGilvary all had these attributes in bucket loads. Lets be fair all clubs have these types of players and all teams need them but they are a comparatively common commodity. You will remember that in the old days there was a saying about just calling down the pit and getting a prop forward etc. Real star quality is rare, players with guile, players who can break down a defence with speed, footwork, slight of hand, skill rather than brute force, these players are the difference in making a good side great, a mid table side a top 4 team, and guiding a team fighting relegation to safety. From a very early age in local junior rugby any good judge could see that Rocky was special, and if you just watch his highlights for us you can easily see that he just a natural, look at the way he reads a break and is always in the right place - just like Shaun Edwards, look at the way he creates openings from nothing, add to that his brilliant defence. These players are rare and very hard for us to get our hands on as the ones with these talents are picked off by the big clubs as juniors. When we get a specially talented player it is also very difficult for us to keep hold of them, Nigel Wright, Toppo, McShane, Soloamoana, Brough all left either because we needed the transfer fee or were tapped up. These players were all match winners. Rocky is a match winner, he is class, he is a special talent and we should have kept him as the likes of him do not come around often for the likes of us. To make matters utterly unbearable we now have to watch him shine is a Cas shirt. Any good judge knows that we have made an error and this nonsense about supporting the team rather the player is silly talk.'"
An opinion held by you and about five other people on the planet, whilst the sane think somewhat differently
Seriously though this is getting ridiculous for a player who's never ever matched the hype. Tragic.
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