Did not know they did parmos down there i always thought of it as a NE delicacy. Never had it with Garlic sauce though only Tomato or Bechamel.

You are Alan Partridge, and I claim my £5.

Back of the net!

did he have a folded up flag???

they wouldnt let me put it up for " safety reasons" ...... gutted

Another game with a large chunk of endeavour but a lack of quality. Starting to sound like a broken record!

I can see what you are saying but i am enjoying this season more where we are putting the effort in but just don't have the quality than last season where we had more quality but lacked effort.

I'm enjoying watching them give it their all no doubt about it. I'd like JK to let them off the leash a little though and let them play with a little more freedom, see how good they can be.

Pretty much an action replay of last week against Leeds for me, plenty of effort and endevour but not enough skill to capitalise and score points. The lads did't give up though and really made a good go of it, I have see plenty of far, far superior Wakefield teams than this get their s handed to them on a plate at the McAlpine and throw in the towel - somethiign that this group of players is yet to do and they deserve plenty of praise for this alone.

One thing does still concern me, we kicked a bomb up early to the right wing and came up with a try after the winger made a hash of it - anybody notice us trying this move for a 2nd time? Decent sides (in fact most sides) persivered when a weakness is exposed and keep working on it - something we dont seem to have the ability to do....

Agree with most of what has been said lots of effort and graft just lacking in quality and creativity. The only thing for me is if you do insist on taking the 2 at least make sure you do actually take 2. A bit like missing touch from the penalty last week no reason why we shouldn't be doing the basics.

I know what you mean. However I think what JK or any coach does is build up a basic team pattern first. Our team is very new to each other so I imagine the coach wants to keep it tight and build up defensive and attacking patterns first. This should allow younger players the chance to come up to speed.

It's only a theory but I don't think you can play adventurous Rugby without good basic understanding amongst the squad. It's great chucking it about but if it all goes wrong you need to be able to revert back to a safe style of play.

There definately needs to be some structure obviously, I just feel we are so one dimensional we don't ask enough questions of the opposition. We are too easy to defend against. After this coming sunday we will be a third of the way through the season and with the weather (hopefully) warming up it may be time to start letting them express themselves a little more, without going overboard. They may not be good enough, but we won't know unless they try it once in a while!

That's the conundrum we are in. Do we play it safe and build long term in the hope that we are in SL next season - or - go out with a bang and say hell to it. I like others have not totally given up of SL survival but equally see the need to prepare for NL1. With that uncertainty it's really hard for all concerned to know what to do. Franchising has some positives but also has some big negatives.

Glad the players haven't given up just yet , like you Vastman!

Nothing the players do will help the club gain a new license. Besides the players are able to move on if the club loses out. The supporters can not.

I'd have gone with you on this post - except that I've just read your posts on the Shudds forum and in tone and content they are derogatory and condescending. In which case may I suggest Quel surprise got it spot on this time.

Glad I can think like an adult - you do know this is real life don't you?

God you can be so obnoxious...having watched Wakefield for over 40 years I can say I have seen the worst and the best of them , so watching them in the Championship won't be a problem. However I don't think we need to throw the towel in so blatently just yet....if it wasn't for their league position what do Cas have that's so great?

Really, well good for you. Perhaps if you had the courtesy to read other peoples posts properly you'd get a better response - you sniped at me or did you forget that.

I've not given in, far from it but you don't go forward by sticking your head in the sand. As has already been pointed out to you by me and others is that it doesn't matter what the players do - we are the club with the weakest franchise bid as far as any of us are aware. Castlefords league position has nothing to do with it, but their larger turnover. better junior set up and the fact that they at least have planning permission will probably be enough to turn it in their favour. Franchise is all about quite minor differences unfortunately. The only way Cas will be bellow us is if there is a huge hole in their bid, sadly we won't know that for a while.

I'd love it if RL was still decided on the pitch but surely you can see it isn't anymore.

We need to cut our cloth accordingly and plan for the future and at the moment the future look like not being in SL. How is that giving up, it's called adapt and survive.

better junior setup my

I have to agree, but can anyone tell me why young Kieron Hyde isn't even on the bench? I think we could utilise his kicking game.

care to expand on which comments are derogotary and condescending?

Imagine the threads that would appear on here if Kear did put him on the bench



In all honesty though i thought he did well in the games he played at the start of the season but i guess he was the person to miss out with BJ coming back. I think that if Hyde was 30 and BJ was 20 the Hyde would be in the team. I get the feeling that BJ is only in the team because he adds experience which is something that we are lacking. That said however i don't think BJ has done too bad since coming back from injury and as we all know put a dominant partner next to him and he is a class act.

True, but BJ only plays when BJ wants to. JK did tell Kieron he had it in him to be the next Broughie, but not without game time

Nah, dont be daft.....Hyde is a nice lad, he doesn't have a habit of driving mini-buses he doesnt own and he certainly isn't in debt.

On a serious note though...it is a bit of a strange comparison, they have no similarities in their playing styles!

I think he once hired a mini bus, or rode in one


But Kear did say he had it in him. perhaps he was purely on about his kikcking.

I like Teef, but perhaps I am biased.....I do honestly think he should be getting more game time too.