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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree.
I think that comes down to investment.
Peaks of success are difficult to turn into sustained success.
I think it was Webster or maybe Agar that said with the team we are able to field, we have to be at our best to win. Other teams can play at 60% and still do it. We can't.
So sustaining that is really difficult. Unless you can improve the overall quality of the team. (and keep them on the pitch)'"
Just to put some context behind the investment in the squad point, in June 2018 we were £330,000 under the salary cap of £2.1 million, around 15% in terms of spend against other clubs (A bit further behind those that are paying for marquee players). I don`t have the figures for 2019 but I do know that we are on record as saying we would be spending closer to the cap in 2019 than we would in 2018 so from that you would maybe say we are somewhere near 10% below the cap?
15/16 we were below that and when Smith left Carter said Brian had the most money to work with out of any coach we have had in the SL era for Wakefield Trinity, so over the last few years in terms of squad investment we are the closest we have ever been to the rest of the league.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"Surely just an error ???'"
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Just to put some context behind the investment in the squad point, in June 2018 we were £330,000 under the salary cap of £2.1 million, around 15% in terms of spend against other clubs (A bit further behind those that are paying for marquee players). I don`t have the figures for 2019 but I do know that we are on record as saying we would be spending closer to the cap in 2019 than we would in 2018 so from that you would maybe say we are somewhere near 10% below the cap?
15/16 we were below that and when Smith left Carter said Brian had the most money to work with out of any coach we have had in the SL era for Wakefield Trinity, so over the last few years in terms of squad investment we are the closest we have ever been to the rest of the league.'"
That doesn't mean the squad is closer. I can remember at least 3 players improving their contracts in that time.
But equally if the money has gone up, the crowds haven't so credit to the club for getting that money through other channels.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Just to put some context behind the investment in the squad point, in June 2018 we were £330,000 under the salary cap of £2.1 million, around 15% in terms of spend against other clubs (A bit further behind those that are paying for marquee players). I don`t have the figures for 2019 but I do know that we are on record as saying we would be spending closer to the cap in 2019 than we would in 2018 so from that you would maybe say we are somewhere near 10% below the cap?
15/16 we were below that and when Smith left Carter said Brian had the most money to work with out of any coach we have had in the SL era for Wakefield Trinity, so over the last few years in terms of squad investment we are the closest we have ever been to the rest of the league.'"
Don’t quote me but I think carter said we are 10% down this year than last.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
How do you define agar has you praise cc ( and rightly so to be fair)for the work he did in 17 and 18 but agar is badly put down but did he not qualify us for play offs
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| Only once, and that was due to Bradford’s point deductions. We then crashed out of the play offs straight away.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"
I'm not really sure what you mean, but I thought Agar was a good coach for us.
Fans not understanding the circumstances when finances were hard and things got more difficult means he gets a bad rep.
He's really well regarded by other coaches and he seems to be building Leeds back up again.
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| Agar, a players coach, but fans remain unconvinced. I never wanted the guy at the club and was glad he went, regardless of what happened after. Talking of replacing with better, we certainley didn't do that then.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
When you said no point changing coach if there is not better to replace and said it didnt work with both webster and agar....but nowi think maybe you meant replacing agar with webster
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| Back to Leigh. See Gelling got found not guilty regarding the GBH charge. Having seen the picture of his girlfriend I would recommend getting the contact number of his barrister.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Back to Leigh. See Gelling got found not guilty regarding the GBH charge. Having seen the picture of his girlfriend I would recommend getting the contact number of his barrister.'"
I’ve got a court appearance due in September facing a triple digit speeding charge on a B road last July, think I could do with their number to avoid a ban
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| Quote ="financialtimes"I’ve got a court appearance due in September facing a triple digit speeding charge on a B road last July, think I could do with their number to avoid a ban
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| Quote ="FIL"Jeez FT....that must be one fast pushbike
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It was probably downhill though.
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Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Back to Leigh. See Gelling got found not guilty regarding the GBH charge. Having seen the picture of his girlfriend I would recommend getting the contact number of his barrister.'"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-57160221
He says he is off back to New Zealand, so I am guessing he won't be playing against us, which might not be a bad thing as far as we are concerned ??
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-57160221
He says he is off back to New Zealand, so I am guessing he won't be playing against us, which might not be a bad thing as far as we are concerned ??
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| Quote ="FIL"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57160221
He says he is off back to New Zealand, so I am guessing he won't be playing against us, which might not be a bad thing as far as we are concerned ??'"
Every little helps.....
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| Webster had the new coach bounce but then a disastrous season the following year, when he was sacked after Brian Smith took over. Unfortunately, however, he'd won two games by this point in the season, which is two more than we currently have.
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| Not that it matters much but Webster resigned, he wasn't sacked. MC wanted him to stay if memory servers me correctly.
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| Quote ="charlie"Not that it matters much but Webster resigned, he wasn't sacked. MC wanted him to stay if memory servers me correctly.'"
Yes, I think you're right.
The point I was making was really that he had a disastrous season but by this point he had won two games (the first two, from memory), which is two more than us at the moment.
In fairness to the team, they have all been relatively tough fixtures. Leeds twice, Saints, Hull, Catalans, Wigan. All losable in a normal season. I'm not ruling out the picture being a little rosier in a couple of months time.
I can't remember the first game from that year, but I think the second game was against Hull KR, and Albert Kelly hadn't quite shown what he can do at that stage.
Until then, however, the only team I look out for is Leigh.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Yes, I think you're right.
The point I was making was really that he had a disastrous season but by this point he had won two games (the first two, from memory), which is two more than us at the moment.
In fairness to the team, they have all been relatively tough fixtures. Leeds twice, Saints, Hull, Catalans, Wigan. All losable in a normal season. I'm not ruling out the picture being a little rosier in a couple of months time.
I can't remember the first game from that year, but I think the second game was against Hull KR, and Albert Kelly hadn't quite shown what he can do at that stage.
Until then, however, the only team I look out for is Leigh.'"
First game was cas at cas when we came back from about 14pts down with not long to go
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| Quote ="Luppylad"First game was cas at cas when we came back from about 14pts down with not long to go'"
Yes we won our first 2 then lost a close controversial match against Saints, picked up loads of injuries and that was that.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Anything is possible looking at Gelling's case.
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Didn’t happen at Leigh..
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| Quote ="atomic"Didn’t happen at Leigh..'"
No one said it did but he's a Leigh player now and it's the 1st time I've seen those photo's of his partner.
Worst I've seen involving a Rugby League player since the incident that had Greg Johnson getting jailed.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"No one said it did but he's a Leigh player now and it's the 1st time I've seen those photo's of his partner.
Worst I've seen involving a Rugby League player since the incident that had Greg Johnson getting jailed.'"
You stated back to Leigh... Without stating facts. Nothing wrong with the East Lancs,just don’t get caught.
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