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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I challenge anyone to recollect and then tell me of a single individual error during the period between Don Fox's in 1968 and Grix's in 2017 of greater or even similar significance.'"
Who cares, we've all moved on except you that is
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| He goes with my thanks and best wishes - he's been a big part of what WT has achieved during his tenure, and it's clear he's given his all when on the pitch.
Fair play - a proper pro, a great player and a thoroughly decent guy.
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| Quote ="trinfan71"Sideshow Bob in the cup semi final at the Keepmoat against Hull. I recollect him making more than one significant error in that game.'"
Possibly but we did get back to 18 - 16 by halftime and Broughy missed quite a few goal attempts so definitely better opportunities to still recover.
I always thought Chris Feather's loose carry about 18 minutes past 8 on Friday October 1st 2004 was the most costly error until Grix's. We were bringing the ball out at 14 nil up in the play offs and Wigan were rocking but they got possession and scored off the set. So close to progression to the elimination final as it was then called. Wigan got on a roll and we didn't score again.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Possibly but we did get back to 18 - 16 by halftime and Broughy missed quite a few goal attempts so definitely better opportunities to still recover.
I always thought Chris Feather's loose carry about 18 minutes past 8 on Friday October 1st 2004 was the most costly error until Grix's. We were bringing the ball out at 14 nil up in the play offs and Wigan were rocking but they got possession and scored off the set. So close to progression to the elimination final as it was then called. Wigan got on a roll and we didn't score again.'"
Apologies, I misunderstood the challenge. I thought you meant any player not just players whose surname started with 'G', ended in 'X', with 'R' & 'I' in the middle
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| Quote ="trinfan71"Apologies, I misunderstood the challenge. '"
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Possibly but we did get back to 18 - 16 by halftime and Broughy missed quite a few goal attempts so definitely better opportunities to still recover.
I always thought Chris Feather's loose carry about 18 minutes past 8 on Friday October 1st 2004 was the most costly error until Grix's. We were bringing the ball out at 14 nil up in the play offs and Wigan were rocking but they got possession and scored off the set. So close to progression to the elimination final as it was then called. Wigan got on a roll and we didn't score again.'" so you seem to remember every bad about mistakes in past games why not look to what was good about these players instead or can you not think of any
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_eek.gif so you seem to remember every bad about mistakes in past games why not look to what was good about these players instead or can you not think of any'"
Hundreds of great memories. Regularly, including very recently, mention stuff concerning such as Solomona and Poching. Keith Smith also gets plenty. Make it thousands.
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| Best of luck to Scott, unless he's involved against us. He was a big part of the improvement in the team climbing the league. That is what he deserves to be remembered
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| Well I for one have to admire Wallo on this one.
He never liked Grix and he still doesn’t - what’s wrong with that?
I liked Grix but I can accept others don’t. He’s not slagged him off as a person just doesn’t rate him as a player and is happy to say so.
I get annoyed at people who pick on young players because I don’t think it’s fair - give them a chance. At 35 Grix is not young and his career is now open for discussion - that doesn’t mean it can only be a round of back slapping, he’s bound to have his critics.
I do and I’m a genius.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Possibly but we did get back to 18 - 16 by halftime and Broughy missed quite a few goal attempts so definitely better opportunities to still recover.
I always thought Chris Feather's loose carry about 18 minutes past 8 on Friday October 1st 2004 was the most costly error until Grix's. We were bringing the ball out at 14 nil up in the play offs and Wigan were rocking but they got possession and scored off the set. So close to progression to the elimination final as it was then called. Wigan got on a roll and we didn't score again.'"
Was that the same match BJ and korkidas were sent off my Ashley Kline for minor/made up infringements?
We had Wigan well beaten too, I seem to recall Andy farrel carried Wigan on his own the last 15 minutes of that game, he's was at the end of his RL career but was still amazing, he was a once in a generation player
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| Quote ="vastman"Well I for one have to admire Wallo on this one.
He never liked Grix and he still doesn’t - what’s wrong with that?
I liked Grix but I can accept others don’t. He’s not slagged him off as a person just doesn’t rate him as a player and is happy to say so.
I get annoyed at people who pick on young players because I don’t think it’s fair - give them a chance. At 35 Grix is not young and his career is now open for discussion - that doesn’t mean it can only be a round of back slapping, he’s bound to have his critics.
I do and I’m a genius.'"
Saying you don't think someone is that good a player is fine. But he basically bags him for one error in one game that led to a try and says it's the most significant error in 50 years. Well, what about from exactly the same game where Matty Ashurst misses a tackle under the sticks and Saints score. Why is that not just as significant? Or Liam Finn leaving a huge gap in the line for Theo Fages to score? Or any of the countless other errors players will have made during that game. He just has a massive chip on his shoulder about Grix for some weird reason.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"Saying you don't think someone is that good a player is fine. But he basically bags him for one error in one game that led to a try and says it's the most significant error in 50 years. Well, what about from exactly the same game where Matty Ashurst misses a tackle under the sticks and Saints score. Why is that not just as significant? Or Liam Finn leaving a huge gap in the line for Theo Fages to score? Or any of the countless other errors players will have made during that game. He just has a massive chip on his shoulder about Grix for some weird reason.'"
No he was bagging him long before that trust me.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"Saying you don't think someone is that good a player is fine. But he basically bags him for one error in one game that led to a try and says it's the most significant error in 50 years. Well, what about from exactly the same game where Matty Ashurst misses a tackle under the sticks and Saints score. Why is that not just as significant? Or Liam Finn leaving a huge gap in the line for Theo Fages to score? Or any of the countless other errors players will have made during that game. He just has a massive chip on his shoulder about Grix for some weird reason.'"
FFS! Can you not see that there are two completely different issues here.
1. Grix's error was the most significant error since Don Fox's because;
The timing. 20 seconds of a game remaining so no opportunity to put things right.
The lost reward. Top 4 place with all the kudos and financial gain.
2. My thought's on Grix the player are irrelevant to the facts above. BTW not surprised he has scuttled back to his beloved Shudds again.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"FFS! Can you not see that there are two completely different issues here.
1. Grix's error was the most significant error since Don Fox's because;
The timing. 20 seconds of a game remaining so no opportunity to put things right.
The lost reward. Top 4 place with all the kudos and financial gain.
2. My thought's on Grix the player are irrelevant to the facts above. BTW not surprised he has scuttled back to his beloved Shudds again.'"
But Jakey just debunked that because the other errors in the game caused the same problem.
By all means bag Grix for not being as good as you want him to be but he is not solely to blame for what in fact would have got us to one more game against Cas. Nowhere near as significant as 68.
We lost a close semifinal to Cas in 69 and we were favourites to beat Widnes in 75 and lost a close one there too.
It's a team sport.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Fair play - a proper pro, a great player and a thoroughly decent guy.'"
A great player? I think that's going a bit over the top!
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| Quote ="PopTart" Nowhere near as significant as 68.
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I said [usince then[/u. Doubt that incident will ever be surpassed.
I have attended the vast majority of games since then and stand by my comments that "due to the timing and lost reward" it takes 2nd place. Pulling incomparable run of the mill, everyday errors out of a hat doesn't change that fact.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"A great player? I think that's going a bit over the top!'"
Tbf I think he meant a great player for us rather than in a global sense.
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| Quote ="vastman"Tbf I think he meant a great player for us rather than in a global sense.'"
I did indeed - I forgot that RLfans has a strict hierarchy of acceptable words to describe players, from "squad player," right up to "legend."
I used the word great in a very specific sense - in that he's been great for *us.*
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| Quote ="bren2k"I did indeed - I forgot that RLfans has a strict hierarchy of acceptable words to describe players, from "squad player," right up to "legend."
I used the word great in a very specific sense - in that he's been great for *us.*'"
If you forgot that’s fine!
I do think the word ‘great’ gets thrown about too much. He’s done well for us, better than his first stint in my opinion, and I do agree he comes across as a model pro.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"If you forgot that’s fine!
I do think the word ‘great’ gets thrown about too much. He’s done well for us, better than his first stint in my opinion, and I do agree he comes across as a model pro.'"
I don't disagree - we live in a world where the bar is set very low, and hyperbole has become the norm; so maybe we could agree on here that if we're using a word in reference to the acceptable usage list, we capitalise - ie Grix isn't Great, but he is great?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I don't disagree - we live in a world where the bar is set very low, and hyperbole has become the norm; so maybe we could agree on here that if we're using a word in reference to the acceptable usage list, we capitalise - ie Grix isn't Great, but he is great?'"
I think that’s a fair compromise! I just hope everyone sticks to or we’ll have posters calling Chris Annakin a Legend!
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I think that’s a fair compromise! I just hope everyone sticks to or we’ll have posters calling Chris Annakin a Legend!'"
Sure that's been done before.......
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| Well I delivered a late night McDonalds to my gf and her pals the other night, and was labelled a 'legend' - so the currency of that word has significantly reduced; although to be fair, I don't know if they were capitalising or not, since the communication was purely verbal - and drunk.
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| I wish people wouldn't do this on threads when a player leaves, he has put his body on the line and we have had good service from him overall, he should be allowed a goodbye thread without the digs, he has had plenty of critics on here for his errors but seriously guys move on, Thanks for your efforts Scott and good luck in the future.
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| Quote ="inside man"I wish people wouldn't do this on threads when a player leaves, he has put his body on the line and we have had good service from him overall, he should be allowed a goodbye thread without the digs, he has had plenty of critics on here for his errors but seriously guys move on, Thanks for your efforts Scott and good luck in the future.'"
I was just about to say the same.
In season by all means comment however you like but when someone is leaving and people want to wish him well, just wish him well or don't.
I personally don't feel the need to make sure everyone knows I didn't like him.
But for Grix I enjoyed watching him play, I felt he brought something good to the team, from my view he looks like a professional who would be good as a mentor and he clearly loves his family and mates.
I wish him good luck for the future
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