Thats how I understood the deal.

You sir are the pathetic one, with a complete over reaction to what was a very tongue in cheek comment!

Me too.

I just read it again, well in fact I actually read it properly - fair enough I apologies unreservedly.

The bottom line is Leeds retain the option to resign him after one year of his contract.
Props tend to mature with age. Do you think Hetherington et al don't know this? Griffin and Moore have loads of experience but Amor is learning all the time. Leeds are prepared to let him develop that experience at a different club, but the clause is there very specifically to allow them to re-sign him if his improvement continues. If his form slides they will let him see out his contract at Wakefield. You can call it tough or cynical if you like but the Leeds board are smart enough to have left themselves in a 'win-win' situation with this.

As for Amor, he wouldn't be the first to be farmed out by Leeds during his developmental years in Superleague..only to return to the club as a much more complete player... nor will he be the last.

Not sure where you get 'numerous deluded years from'. I make it one and a bit years before he went out on loan.

You've changed.

Apology accepted, try

No, the bottom line is Leeds have an option to OFFER him an extension to his contract which expires at the end of the year, provided they do this before July.
Even if Leeds do this, Kyle DOES NOT have to accept that offer.

He may do, thinking he will win more with Leeds, or he may not, knowng that Leeds have overlooked him in the past and signed players (who IMO are not as good) to play ahead of him.

I can only speak from my own point of view but if it was me and Leeds had seen my form last year (in a very poor team) and then still decided to bring in a couple of new props ahead of me and not given me a chance to prove myself/earn a spot then I'd tell them to stick it.
You can only win medals by playing and if Leeds are not willing to play him then what's the point of going back there?

At the end of the day the decision will be Kyle's (if Leeds offer him a new contract) and anyone trying to guess what he will do is doing just that - GUESSING! We'll have to wait and see.

Yes, but have you

You don't know the terms of the deal any more than we do; it's very unlikely that the player's agent has allowed his client to be maneuvered into a position of total powerlessness, just as it seems unlikely that either club will have left themselves totally vulnerable to the other.

Leeds have option to offer kyle a new contract for 2013 onwards. Obviously it will have to be a better contract then Wakefield have offered and even then it's still up o Kyle what he wants to do

No I don't but his is verbatim from your official website:
"It is great that Kyle will be classed as Wakefield player and[u if Leeds do not re-call him[/u, I am looking forward to seeing Kyle impress at the prop forward role for the next three seasons here.”

As you know, that doesn't constitute his terms and conditions of employment, nor is it an indication of the details of the deal done between WTW and Leeds.

Seriously, it's great to support your club and all, but don't kid yourself that Mr Hetherington can sidestep employment law and brush aside a players wishes to make him an indentured servant; the deal looks ok for all parties right now - that's all we know.

No it doesn't but it would seem to indicate that Wakefield's understanding of the deal is that he can be 'recalled' by Leeds. I don't for one minute believe that Hetherington can sidestep the law, but I do know from past experience that he's a pretty shrewd and hard-baked cookie when it comes to contract negotiations.
Iestyn Harris will probably testify to this...the circumstances may have been different but the player's wishes didn't seem to count for much there.

Maybe I'm reading too much 'between the lines' but when clubs talk about 'recall' I think it's a pretty fair bet that the right to recall is somewhere in the contract.

Yes, I do believe you are.

It must be wonderful living in an ivory tower looking down on us 'inferior' clubs!

IMOA i think Kyle will tell Leeds to stick it.

Firstly, Iestyn Harris was not compromised by his "Exit" contract, it was his future employers


Secondly, there is no way on this earth that a "Restrictive Covenant" like Harris's could ever be implemented again and would be classed as illegal under "Current" European employment laws (that even the RFL have to adhere to)
Personally though I hope Kyle remains a Wakefield player as long as possible and the longer he stays the more fond of the club he will become, when we played Bradford at the end of last season and we were invited on to the pitch I spoke to Kyle and asked him if he would be coming back to Wakey next season or going back to Leeds, his reply was "I really hope I can stay here as it's been great and the fans and club have given me the chance to prove myself" so if it's down to player choice I know where I'd be putting my money

I think it will depend on how much each club offers, hopefully Leeds having a few more "superstars" in their side may preclude them from offering too much to a young prop.

If offered Kyle would go to Leeds in an instant.

I don't look down on any rl club in any league mate, but I do live in the real world. How many players have left Leeds for Wakey in their prime compared to those that have gone the other way?

It must be horrible having such a massive chip on your shoulder.

Why. I suspect he would but certainly not without a great deal of thought and heart searching first.

When I first started to read your post I thought you were going to ask Vasty if he would consider putting on the number 8 shirt on due to his vast size

Vastly old and unfit more like.