I'm sure CC must read this forum and with the number of people who point out our faults week in, week out why doesn't he just stop and think, "Perhaps they have a point". We see the same old faults time after time. All that euphoria at the end of last season has come to nothing and the fans let down YET AGAIN.. I wasn't one of the "Chester out brigade", but I'm beginning to wonder. We have hard times ahead.

Its seems i only make comments when things go wrong but cmon performances like that need talking about narrow defeat yea but the try by rankin was a try by anyone knowing owt about rugby league hamshire in my opinion did ok lots of criticisum as been thrown at trinity 18 because of his views about max jowitt but as i recall these were my views on here over the lest couple of years and thepathetic way tha comments refered to the lad as max instead of jowitt lets get real lads i thought this team was capable of a top four finish early on in the season but now comparing it the solomona and taduala team not in the same class im afraid probably because the teams in opposition arnt as good

I'm pretty sure he doesn't read these boards.

But if he did he'd have the advice of play the kids, don't change the team, change the team, Horo is rubbish, Horo is MoM, Horo is rubbish, PP is not fit, we should play PP at second row, PP doesn't run from deep, PP will monster Brough, play Max, play Grix, play MCB, dont drop TJ, play Randell at half back, dont play Kirmond, we need a leader, buy someone from Fev, Arona should not be renewed, Arona is too valuable to lose, Tupou is great cos he makes most yards in Super League, drop Tupou cos he doesn't pass....need I go on?

pointless joining the ranting, but we didn't learn anything from last week game and we now have put pressure on our selves

time for me to sulk

Personally i’m not quite at the Chester out stage as yet but the pressure is mounting. This team should be performing way better than we are seeing, everyone to a man agreed we had the best squad we have ever had in superleague. Well we are not seeing that and the buck stops with the coaching team. And remember we sacrificed the cup to target this game. Well he got that badly wrong.

Widnes on the plastic pitch is now a massive game and to coin a phrase, it really is must win to calm the nerves. I think we’ll win the game but if there is a reverse there then it might be time to question one or two positions.

All those points refer to individual players. It's the team performances that he needs to pick up on. We can all see where they fall down on the field; why can't he? Basic tactics such as quick play the balls; attacking as a force and not one man rugby, avoiding opposition overlaps etc etc.
I'm sure he does read these boards if only to see what the fans think of him. It's only natural to do this.

I think it's only fair now to give certain players the same amount of games as some of the starting thirteen. Jowitt at fullback, Hampshire at 7, Wood starting 9, Arundel in place of one Tupou, Lyne, Batchelor in place of Horo or Kirmond, Baldwinson on the bench.

Complacency can be a result of certain players knowing they won't be dropped which is part of what we're seeing.

Agree about other players given a chance.Think the thing that is not helping Lyne and Tupu is slow ball.So no Arundel in for me.Put Arundel in 2nd row with Batch nothing to lose

I have been saying all year that our attack inside ops 20 is terrible - it was just getting masked by the very close wins we were having,'

its coming to a head now because now we are not winning either...

we scored lucky tries really this week as well -

Not quite sure of the full story on Finn regarding injury etc but, he's just not doing it at the moment.
We know that he's not the quickest but, he is/was our organiser but, it simply isnt happening.

Whilst Ashurts had an excellent game and you cant deny him his try, the score only comes because our halves just aren't in control of the game and he tries a speculative kick.

We were the better side for 50 minutes yesterday and there was some improvement on last week but, Huddersfield are ordinary at best and with Catalan and Huddersfield improving, we are already in a fight to avoid the bottom 4.

Widnes is our first "must win" of the season and pressure is starting to build on the players, coach and club.

for me the problem has been the half backs all season. Miller blows hot and cold and now Finn seems to have lost form, so we apparently drop a winger and full back.

It's just a good job we got points on the board early on in the season otherwise we'd be well down in the bottom 4 now.

That was pretty terrible - and if Kruise Leeming wasn't as thick as mince, we'd have lost by a fair bit more.

With a few notable exceptions, it was a dreadful team performance; Ashurt was a good as ever, and Pauli and Big Dave tried hard - but Finn, Tupou, BJB, Lynn, MCB and Kirmond were awful. I can't work out if Hampshire is adding anything, and Miller has moments, but he's either doing too much, or not enough - either way, it's not working.

I've been fairly sanguine about losing to teams that are self-evidently better than us - but that Shudds team are bang average, and losing two on the bounce is really poor. A very downbeat end to a weekend that was distinctly short on 'Magic.'

It also puts to bed the myth that it will all be fine when the sun comes out and pitches firm up. Well It couldn’t have been much better conditions yesterday and it was fine the week before as well. In fact when Salford beat us the conditions were good also. Maybe we just are massively under achieving. Or not that good.

Miller is a one excellent, match-winning game in six kind of player. He’ll then bang average for four with a headless chicken one thrown in somewhere as well. Thats why he plays for us and not a top team or in the NRL.

Chester stated its the worst 30 minutes we've played.
Could of sworn he was in the dugout at Salford.

I think that was Bishops worst game this year, despite scoring 2. I don't think it's fair to give Tupou or MCB any grief, we hardly sent the ball down that side - pathetic attempt to score in the corner from MCB though...

Have to agree there. He jumped into the air instead of diving low. This gave the defender every chance of stopping him.

BJB got caught on defensively a few times yesterday, shooting out of the line way too early when he didn't need to. MCB try was great defense from JM but i actually think if that`s TJ he would of scored that.

I thought that - I know everyone loves superman tries, but there is a time to just put your head down and go low, and this was definitely one of them.

Exactly right HOMME VASTE... the second try was as a result off BJB shooting out when Lynne was in his correct position.

The partnership also didn't work yesterday either, seemed to be a lack of communication.

MCB hasn't got the technique right when trying to do the dive like Tom Johnstone, BJB, Greg Eden or Tom Makinson. Had any of those had that chance, their feet would have been a lot higher going over the line.

Just an observation but in the excitement of you agreeing with homme vaste regarding BJB's defensive errors' you've typed his name in capitals instead of lower casing, is that a genuine error or does it extend further? just asking like

said earlier in the season when we get our players back we would beat your lot

saying that we didnt even have any second rowers yesterday! lawrence, ferguson, roberts all out and also our captain!

out of the cup and beaten at magic!!

Yep any youre still crap