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| I know the obvious thing will be to get the dvd to see it all and the little incidents that resulted in the ref getting a lot of abuse. But will there be any highlights available on facebook that will show some of the fights and offside decisions rather than just watching try highlights that SL like to give us which don't tell any story of the game
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"That's the reason, as a supporter of a club that struggles year in year out, that you continue to turn up and watch because that performance feels like it's worth the 200 quid alone. Will have a smile for a week. Fantastic team performance and can't say a bad word about any player. That is the attitude, endeavor and commitment we should be playing with week in and week out.
Is that the best you've got you petty little man. I've never down played tim smith contribution I just don't happen to believe he's as important as you obviously do - sad you can't grasp the concept of freedom of opinion, enjoy your evening,
I wonder if people like Vastman will continue to downplay Tim Smith's contribution to this team over the past 2 years?'"
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| As a Wigan fan ( who was wanting a Trinity win today may I add) that was the spoiler, the constant crossing calls. Wigan did not cross the ball went behind the man and was caught on his outside shoulder. The man did not go behind the runner whilst he had ball in hand.
I will say the RFL need to clear this up though as it is ruining the game because if the ambiguity of the rules in relation to this.
Didn't see the Gelling incident seemed to be a forward pass by Wigan then all hell broke loose, the touch judge who was right next to it made the call so he was probably best placed to see exactly what went on.
The Smith Ryan incident from where I was stood (North Stand) looked like smith jumping at Ryan's head in a very poor attempted half back on big man tackle. It seemed Ryan then went in at him again being slightly wound up by it, which was fair enough, and the handbags followed. Penalty to Wakefield correct call, doubt anything will come of it further.
I hasten to add though this was my view from the North stand, although this vantage point was ideally for the non obstruction calls despite what the Trinity fans were calling for.
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| If we are talking about the ref, once again we get a player dumped on his head and a penalty given so seen by the ref but put in report.
That's no good to us.
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| Quote ="jonh"The Smith Ryan incident from where I was stood (North Stand) looked like smith jumping at Ryan's head in a very poor attempted half back on big man tackle. It seemed Ryan then went in at him again being slightly wound up by it, which was fair enough, and the handbags followed. Penalty to Wakefield correct call, doubt anything will come of it further.'"
According to the Radio Manc commentator, Ryan put the big don't argue hand-off on Smith, who didn't like it and came up swinging; he described the hand-off as 'perfectly legal.'
I've said it before and I'll say it again - it feels like open season on Wakey players this year; this is the latest in a long line of violent conduct against our players that has not been dealt with by the official.
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| Quote ="bren2k"According to the Radio Manc commentator, Ryan put the big don't argue hand-off on Smith, who didn't like it and came up swinging; he described the hand-off as 'perfectly legal.'
I've said it before and I'll say it again - it feels like open season on Wakey players this year; this is the latest in a long line of violent conduct against our players that has not been dealt with by the official.'"
I wasn't listening to the Radio I was there. What I saw was Smith jump at Ryan which the ref should have pulled for a high shot. He got swatted off and rightfully so Ryan went back at him as he was not happy. Smith then started swinging out if frustration.
Clearly bad technique to start with from Smith, a bit if niggle from Ryan to say I just took it have it back and then handbags from Smith. Let's not make it more than it was.
Penalty to Wakefield, get on with the game.
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| Quote ="jonh"I wasn't listening to the Radio I was there. What I saw was Smith jump at Ryan which the ref should have pulled for a high shot. He got swatted off and rightfully so Ryan went back at him as he was not happy. Smith then started swinging out if frustration.
Clearly bad technique to start with from Smith, a bit if niggle from Ryan to say I just took it have it back and then handbags from Smith. Let's not make it more than it was.
Penalty to Wakefield, get on with the game.'"
Fair do's - I was moving house, so I had the headphones in and kept up the best I could; I was there however, for all the other incidents - we do seem to get the mucky end of the stick more often than not.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Is there any particular reason other than the obvious why you chose that user name?'"
I have no idea what you are referring to - my sons scrum cap is yellow, hence lemon - what are yellow, and head referring to the cap. May be yours should be Dick
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| Quote ="lemonhead"I have no idea what you are referring to'"
I don't like to speak for others, but I'm reasonably confident he was implying that your post suggests you've been sucking said citrus fruit.
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| Its obviously a small club mentality - I was offering a comment about the game as I saw it, not to be abused by a moron with low esteem.
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| Quote ="jonh"I wasn't listening to the Radio I was there. What I saw was Smith jump at Ryan which the ref should have pulled for a high shot. He got swatted off and rightfully so Ryan went back at him as he was not happy. Smith then started swinging out if frustration.
Clearly bad technique to start with from Smith, a bit if niggle from Ryan to say I just took it have it back and then handbags from Smith. Let's not make it more than it was.
Penalty to Wakefield, get on with the game.'"
The incident with Ryan was indeed a penalty.
He'll still cop a fine for throwing punches though and maybe more depending on his record.
No good to us though.
Gelling was different. There was something in the tackle he took offence to and came up hitting out. Penalty against us fair enough as touch judge good see best.
However Gelling through another punch when it calmed down and Ryan wasn't defending himself. That deserved more than a penalty in my opinion.
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Its obviously a small club mentality - I was offering a comment about the game as I saw it, not to be abused by a moron with low esteem.'"
Obviously!
Then again we're just from Historical City of Wakefield rather than the burgeoning metropolis of Wigan
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Its obviously a small club mentality - I was offering a comment about the game as I saw it, not to be abused by a moron with low esteem.'"
So one comment you didn't like and you start name calling and against the whole club too?
That's just never going to go down well.
By all means post on the Wigan board if you like.
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| Quote ="vastman"Is that the best you've got you petty little man. I've never down played tim smith contribution I just don't happen to believe he's as important as you obviously do - sad you can't grasp the concept of freedom of opinion, enjoy your evening,
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The irony for you to reply in the manner you have talking about differing opinions.
I never said you weren't entitled it. Another stupid, mind-boggling, ultra-defensive reply.
I'm going to bed before I start restricting your freedom of speech.
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| Yeah, your ground is truly historical..a true vision of professionalism.
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Yeah, your ground is truly historical..a true vision of professionalism.'"
Each to their own I guess. We have the best playing surface in the league and a view from any part of the ground that allows you to actually see what is going on. DW stadium - its like sitting at the top of a step ladder watching subutteo - you can keep it.
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| I love Belle Vue, it's a great stadium non sanitised by the Sky movement.
Is it good for the game or club probably not but does that make it any less great a venue?......No.
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Yeah, your ground is truly historical..a true vision of professionalism.'"
Yeah, it's steeped in history but why would a Luddite like you know any of that.
I wonder how many Wigan fans would love the chance to go back to Central Park and have the opportunity to redevelop that historic ground into a modern stadium.
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| Cas fan here, well done Trinity!!!
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I think the team today shows that Webster makes his team selection based on the opposition rather than a name or what some of our couch coaches think. I wonder if the usual suspects will crawl from the shadows to berate Mathers or Washbrook's performances today.
I notice a thread was started criticising the dropping of Walshaw at the expense of Lynne but we won so must give Webster credit for being his own man.'"
I didn't start the Walshaw thread to criticise Lyne being included. I was at the time I posted it merely pointing out that imo it was a harsh decision to leave Walshaw out based on recent performances.
I am sure I was not alone pre kick off in holding that view.
As it happens Lyne came in and had a good came as did Mathers and even Scruton looked better. All that said does not mean that previous criticism of those players performances were not justified. In fact, if anything them playing like that shows that past criticism was correct.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"The irony for you to reply in the manner you have talking about differing opinions.
I never said you weren't entitled it. Another stupid, mind-boggling, ultra-defensive reply.
I'm going to bed before I start restricting your freedom of speech.
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Don't come the innocent.
You went looking for trouble and you found so don't cry foul - you brought it on yourself
Glad you enjoyed the game.
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| Watching the highlights, it looks like Owen is well out of position for 3 of their tries. Not bagging him, just need to tighten that sort of stuff up. Looked like Ryan was getting a bit annoyed by it. Shame they didn't show the handbags though.
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| Are highlights on line for those of us lucky enough to be sunning it up in the Balearics?
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Are highlights on line for those of us lucky enough to be sunning it up in the Balearics?'"
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