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| who took the pass from the Amor break in the 1st half? I had it as 21 the Batley fan I went with said 2 whoever it was he lacks any pace it was try time.
Think the young lads put in a good effort but must say I expected more from Mariano,Ellis,Tony and Wood and I will say it again Raleigh is never a prop and I have real doubts if Wilkes is add Johnson and we have 3 back row forwards in the front row that will be exposed in SL and Agar must address the lack of grunt in the pack
9 first team squad players in today with 3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest Batley well worth the win
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| was on Wakey books as a 16year old but left and spent 14years
At hudds were he was wasted, hopefully under Morrison he can get some game time.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest'"
No they weren't.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"who took the pass from the Amor break in the 1st half? I had it as 21 the Batley fan I went with said 2 whoever it was he lacks any pace it was try time.
Think the young lads put in a good effort but must say I expected more from Mariano,Ellis,Tony and Wood and I will say it again Raleigh is never a prop and I have real doubts if Wilkes is add Johnson and we have 3 back row forwards in the front row that will be exposed in SL and Agar must address the lack of grunt in the pack
9 first team squad players in today with 3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest Batley well worth the win'"
You were correct it was Wildie who made the break. Don't agree with you regarding Wilkes, he's an out and out prop these days and Johnson is getting there but Raleigh i'd definatley agree with. But its fair to say another prop should be a priority becuse of the the back ups Trout looks better it the back row and Spiers looks way off superleague level at present.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"who took the pass from the Amor break in the 1st half? I had it as 21 the Batley fan I went with said 2 whoever it was he lacks any pace it was try time.
Think the young lads put in a good effort but must say I expected more from Mariano,Ellis,Tony and Wood and I will say it again Raleigh is never a prop and I have real doubts if Wilkes is add Johnson and we have 3 back row forwards in the front row that will be exposed in SL and Agar must address the lack of grunt in the pack
9 first team squad players in today with 3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest Batley well worth the win'"
Matty Wildie took the pass. Wilkes, Raleigh and Amor were not outmuscled
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"who took the pass from the Amor break in the 1st half? I had it as 21 the Batley fan I went with said 2 whoever it was he lacks any pace it was try time.
Think the young lads put in a good effort but must say I expected more from Mariano,Ellis,Tony and Wood and I will say it again Raleigh is never a prop and I have real doubts if Wilkes is add Johnson and we have 3 back row forwards in the front row that will be exposed in SL and Agar must address the lack of grunt in the pack
9 first team squad players in today with 3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest Batley well worth the win'"
it was Matty Wildie who took the pass from Amor and he isnt exactly slow and definatley does not lack pace, these are rugby players not 100/200 meter sprinters the guy who caught him only did because Matty was trying to run round the full back and the player got him running back it was a great tackle. Oli ran the ball in well, the only prop that didnt stand up well was Raleigh who from what ive seen which is only 2 games so not enough to base a proper opinion on him as yet. The rest of the kids did well anyone know who the number 14 was? small kid but had alot of power! hope some of these guys get some time out on Dual reg in the championship and league 1 just for some proper game time not reserves rugby.
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| Think No.14 is that kid from Bradford
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| Quote ="Theboyem"You were correct it was Wildie who made the break. Don't agree with you regarding Wilkes, he's an out and out prop these days and Johnson is getting there but Raleigh i'd definatley agree with. But its fair to say another prop should be a priority becuse of the the back ups Trout looks better it the back row and Spiers looks way off superleague level at present.'"
Like the look of Trout and yes Spiers looks a long way off SL std it may yet come
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| From what i've seen i'd like to see how Lillycrop and Fletcher would develop with fulltime training. They seem to have something about them.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"who took the pass from the Amor break in the 1st half? I had it as 21 the Batley fan I went with said 2 whoever it was he lacks any pace it was try time.
Think the young lads put in a good effort but must say I expected more from Mariano,Ellis,Tony and Wood and I will say it again Raleigh is never a prop and I have real doubts if Wilkes is add Johnson and we have 3 back row forwards in the front row that will be exposed in SL and Agar must address the lack of grunt in the pack
9 first team squad players in today with 3 of our so called front line props who were out muscled to be honest Batley well worth the win'"
This is a good honest post because everyone else seems to be using the 'Played the Kids' Card. There were a number of supposed starting players in the side especially in the first half, which consisted of possibly the starting front row and a couple of other forwards, as well as Wildie and Wood and really struggled to penetrate a smaller Batley defence which is a slight concern TBH, although there is still a few more to come in. Dont think it is fair to de value the batley performance as this was a far stronger side that faced sheffield and won.
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| Quote ="Wildcat-Rich"it was Matty Wildie who took the pass from Amor and he isnt exactly slow and definatley does not lack pace, these are rugby players not 100/200 meter sprinters the guy who caught him only did because Matty was trying to run round the full back and the player got him running back it was a great tackle. Oli ran the ball in well, the only prop that didnt stand up well was Raleigh who from what ive seen which is only 2 games so not enough to base a proper opinion on him as yet. The rest of the kids did well anyone know who the number 14 was? small kid but had alot of power! hope some of these guys get some time out on Dual reg in the championship and league 1 just for some proper game time not reserves rugby.'"
Never said Amor lacked pace and I have always liked the look of Wildie but at this level Matty should have scored it was a great break and it did expose Wildie for a lack of pace
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| Quote ="quinny"This is a good honest post because everyone else seems to be using the 'Played the Kids' Card.'"
It's not a card - it's what actually happened.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Never said Amor lacked pace and I have always liked the look of Wildie but at this level Matty should have scored it was a great break and it did expose Wildie for a lack of pace'"
Think we've got our wires crossed here it was Matty i was talking about not Amor, he dosent lack pace just the Batley player was faster. in fairness to Matty he should have had another player backing him up took a hell of a whack in the second half too. on a different note though did anyone else think the ref was abit shocking?
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| Think the batley player that caught him was Gareth Potts who was in our academy up til last year.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It's not a card - it's what actually happened.'"
ok if you say so...we will just pretend there was no Amor, Tony, Wood, Wildie, Morton, Mariano, Wilkes, Ellis, Davey, Raleigh eh....Seasoned full time players.
Get real there was enough quality and experience in that line up, together with some big full time youngsters to beat that Batley side.
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| and on that showing its bizaare that Matt James was farmed out, at least he showed some aggression in the games up to now
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| Quote ="quinny"ok if you say so...we will just pretend there was no Amor, Tony, Wood, Wildie, Morton, Mariano, Wilkes, Ellis, Davey, Raleigh eh....Seasoned full time players.
Get real there was enough quality and experience in that line up, together with some big full time youngsters to beat that Batley side.'"
In all fairness if most of them had played the full 80 minutes we would have won easily enough. The damage was done in the last 20 mins when all above (except davey and tony) were removed from the game. Biggest loss being Wood he played very well today.
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| Quote ="quinny"ok if you say so...we will just pretend there was no Amor, Tony, Wood, Wildie, Morton, Mariano, Wilkes, Ellis, Davey, Raleigh eh....Seasoned full time players.
Get real there was enough quality and experience in that line up, together with some big full time youngsters to beat that Batley side.'"
In all fairness if most of them had played the full 80 minutes we would have won easily enough. The damage was done in the last 20 mins when all above (except davey and tony) were removed from the game. Biggest loss being Wood he played very well today.
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| applegarth and henderson potts and moore showed former clubs what they can do wakey got tackled out the game in first half but a really good showing hopefully wilde is ok also batley showed more patience than rather scoring on every attack.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In all fairness if most of them had played the full 80 minutes we would have won easily enough. The damage was done in the last 20 mins when all above (except davey and tony) were removed from the game. Biggest loss being Wood he played very well today.'"
Precisely; for those people who understand the point of a match like this, the above makes perfect sense.
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| Following the Cowling try that made it 14-6, Mariano, Tony and Morton were the only players left on the field with any genuine first team experience. Mariano hasn't played or trained properly for 3 weeks and it showed. The kid was blowing out of his bottom after half an hour it's a miracle he stayed on as long as he did. Tony, although kicked well, is not a half back and took me back to the world of last season where the lack of halves demonstrated a lack of direction for the whole team. Morton is a winger, if he isn't getting the ball, he can't do much, and although he dropped a bomb late on, I thought the kid did alright. Up until that point we looked comfortable, defended well, and although the game was a pretty dour affair, it was a good run out for the forwards up that hill,and will have been of benefit to some.Â
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| Were we beaten by 'five drives and a kick'?
How bad is the slope? Worse than Feath?
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| Overall the game served it's purpose for Richard, he got his main stream players out on the field to get some much needed game time. Thought the Wakefield forwards did well for most part and if anything the side looked to lose a bit of direction with no real grip of the game and losing composure when it was needed most. Batley showed that sticking to a game plan works and really showed that they wanted to keep their run of good performances going, well played Batley. For me the stand out players for Wakefield were Amore, Eliis and Slater who's work rate was outstanding playing the full 80mins.
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| From a Batley perspective it was a good run out for us too, despite the fact we kept chopping and changing our team too. Difference was that we kept Ben Black and Paul Mennell on all match which gave us some continuity going forward all match.
great to see a decent following from Wakefield too, up at the Mount. I thought our kicking game in the last 20 minutes was outstanding and kept you pegged back when you could have run amock going downhill.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"In all fairness if most of them had played the full 80 minutes we would have won easily enough. The damage was done in the last 20 mins when all above (except davey and tony) were removed from the game. Biggest loss being Wood he played very well today.'"
I doubt it Wakefield would have "won easily enough" with the mentioned players based on what I saw today.
The game was a good workout for both sides. Batley where good in defence throughout the 80 minutes but where lacking ideas and had poor ball control when attacking in the first half. In the second half when Moore and Black clicked at half back Batley took control of the game with a good kicking game and ball distribution.
Wakefield looked solid in defence throughout the game and Kyle Wood had a good game at half back.You cannot write a lot into the result of friendlies with both teams experimenting with combinations and rotating players. The Wakefield players and Richard Agar will be glad of a good workout against a team that defended well on what was a heavy(conditions wise) Mount Pleasant pitch.
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