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| Quote ="upthecats"You sure you was watching Gleeson?
Funny because he appeared to me to make two excellent breaks by running good angles.
My problem with Atkins is.... he has all the ability in the World.... a very strong runner with tremendous upper body strength. I've always wondered though if he's not getting the ball as much out wide why does he not involve himself and come looking for work more? This was a huge criticism I had of Petersen, but he seems to be coming looking to do his bit in his last few games, instead of tossing it off out wide like he was before.'"
He certainally did lots of drives with the ball against harlequins.
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| Quote ="danielcat"He certainally did lots of drives with the ball against harlequins.'"
indeed. he was my mom against quins
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| Quote ="Mr. Mojo Risin"It seems pretty much nailed on that Evans will be back at Wakey next season, will he be a better option than Atkins? We will see.
The Leeds rumours are interesting, why would they want Atkins when they have got Kalum Watkins? To me they would be much better off going for a player like Shenton.'"
Something about him training Stanningley as of next season and maybe because he supported them as a kid. Kallum at the moment wouldnt be good enough to become the number 3, well for a start hes proposed position is number 4. Shenton is the other name thats going round at Leeds at the moment.
At the moment the rumours at Leeds are that we are trying for Ryan and have just signed Pitts from you guys. However, these are just rumours pending announcements, as was Lee Smith leaving at the end of the season, when everyone on our board was going on about it since January.
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| Think Shenton would suit the Leeds style of play more than Atkins. Don't think Atkins has the pace. Don't think Shentons poor defense would matter as much in a Leeds team.
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| atkins cant defend lazy so and so, only wants to know in final 10!
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| Quote ="TRB"One bad game and he's gone!
FFS - give it a rest!
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one bad game!!!!!
He's been poor most of the season, and he was poor last season.
I for one aren't bothered if he chooses to chase the Leeds dollar or anyone elses for that matter.
He will have to work a lot harder than he does for us to fill seniors boots!!!!!
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| Quote ="Mr. Mojo Risin"To be fair, is he really as good as people make him out to be? Is he worth the cash? A 'real' Centre would have put Peterson away in the first half, but instead he came inside looking for the collision.
He was lazy today, at times he was AWOL in defence and (granted, among several others) offered nothing going forward. Centre play is about a hell of a lot more than power.'"
keep saying it Atkins is not a centre and never will be lacks guile you cant coach that
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| I`m not convinced that Ryan is an out-and-out Centre, to me he looks more like a 2nd Row filling in, I`d be tempted to bring in a centre and let Ryan have a game or two in the pack, assuming he stays of course.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"to be honest mate, when the ball does go that way, it never seems to get passed ryan. peterson seems starved of service to be fair'"
Very true, don't think any player would relish being on Atkin's wing.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"one bad game!!!!!
He's been poor most of the season, and he was poor last season.
I for one aren't bothered if he chooses to chase the Leeds dollar or anyone elses for that matter.
He will have to work a lot harder than he does for us to fill seniors boots!!!!!'"
That bad that he got an England call up!
He may not be a Gidley or a Senior, but they are world class players. Ryan is not World Class, but he is a fine player who deserves a little more respect for his efforts and, to date, his loyalty to us.
I reckon some would moan on here if we signed Inglis and only got him for 3 years????????
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| Quote ="TRB"That bad that he got an England call up!
He may not be a Gidley or a Senior, but they are world class players. Ryan is not World Class, but he is a fine player who deserves a little more respect for his efforts and, to date, his loyalty to us.
I reckon some would moan on here if we signed Inglis and only got him for 3 years????????
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I wouldn’t worry about TRB. Atkins, if he does go to Leeds next season, will suddenly become world class and questions will be raised as to why the club let him go.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"one bad game!!!!!
He's been poor most of the season, and he was poor last season.
I for one aren't bothered if he chooses to chase the Leeds dollar or anyone elses for that matter.
He will have to work a lot harder than he does for us to fill seniors boots!!!!!'"
atkins played very well against quins, my mom and whilst he has his flaws i'd rather have him here than leave. once again who do we get that is young and english to replace him with? answer, no f***er
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"atkins played very well against quins, my mom and whilst he has his flaws i'd rather have him here than leave. once again who do we get that is young and english to replace him with? answer, no f***er'"
agreed he did play well but these games are not often enough, ok the ball doesn't always come out, but he fails to come looking for it in my view anywhere near as often as a he ought to.
For some reason on here some people think he is untouchable and get personally upset by any negative comments about him, to these people I say grow up, take your blinkers off, accept he ain't half as good as you think he is, and don't burst into tears everytime something gets said about him!!!
To me he has all the ability in the world, he should be more of a threat than he is and that is down to laziness, his tackling can be iffy at times, but he could make up for that by Being a constant menace to our oppos defence, which I believe he fails to do.
Who do we replace him with if he goes, I don't know but it won't be the end of the world, well not for me anyway.
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| but that is exactly the point, he has to come looking for it inside to get teh ball where the traffic is too busty. Same as Petersen.
If Atkins played for Saints or Leeds his lack of centre play would not matter as he would be put on a one on one challenge more often and would make the break for Long, McGuire, Roby, Burrow to back up.
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| he still is and should be our "go to" man when we need a break or a try, there aren't many of them knocking about in SL. We would miss him dearly if he left.
We just need to find ways to get him 1v1 against his centre or the half back and he would create allsorts of problems but it never seems to happen. He has faults but he has far more positives going for him.
i think his defence is pretty solid (maybe some decision making errors) on the whole and those that say he has no pace is pretty lol.
conclusion: we should use him more effectively.
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"he still is and should be our "go to" man when we need a break or a try, there aren't many of them knocking about in SL. We would miss him dearly if he left.
We just need to find ways to get him 1v1 against his centre or the half back and he would create allsorts of problems but it never seems to happen. He has faults but he has far more positives going for him.
i think his defence is pretty solid (maybe some decision making errors) on the whole and those that say he has no pace is pretty lol.
conclusion: we should use him more effectively.'"
so how come if atkins is so good, tony martin sees so much of the ball??
If atkins played on the right and martin on the left would atkins get all the ball?? I don't think so
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| Quote ="kinleycat"so how come if atkins is so good, tony martin sees so much of the ball??
If atkins played on the right and martin on the left would atkins get all the ball?? I don't think so'"
Did he run over your cat or something?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"so how come if atkins is so good, tony martin sees so much of the ball??
If atkins played on the right and martin on the left would atkins get all the ball?? I don't think so'"
Because Martin has played at 6 more than in his centre position?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"so how come if atkins is so good, tony martin sees so much of the ball??
If atkins played on the right and martin on the left would atkins get all the ball?? I don't think so'" some of it is game plan, and martin has been playing at 6 a lot this season. think ryan is a great player on his day and will get better, a lot better. with the right coaching and a bit more ball
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| He coped well with big Eorl yesterday. Also, did you notice how many shudds players were in the tackle everytime he got the ball?
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| Quote ="Wildcat_1"Because Martin has played at 6 more than in his centre position?'"
I meant when he was playing centre, but whoever is in that centre gets it more than atkins.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"some of it is game plan, and martin has been playing at 6 a lot this season. think ryan is a great player on his day and will get better, a lot better. with the right coaching and a bit more ball'"
agreed on his day he is a good player, my complaint is that he doesn't have enough of them, therefore he is either underachieving or average.
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