not for a full season we didnt, dead in the water idea, we dont survive financially at belle vue ffs! what sort of team would you get if we also had to pay ground rent, lost drinks income, etc etc.

oh and at present there are no wakey fans in numbers, and i need cheering up!

Yes to both!!!
Can't see what the rfl could do about it, half of SL clubs are tennants and even in Newmarket we would be.
Ok it's not in the immediate area, but if it was only while we are progressing with Newmarket then at least we are seeking to improve our situation, which is at least a sign of possitivity, i think?!

Yes Trinity would lose supporters, as they would at GH. However, at Oakwell there is a possibility of picking up new support from the local area where as this is very unlikely in Cas.

Also there would be the added benefit of returning back to Wakefield to Newmarket which again would not be an option should Trinity move to GH.

oh come on KC! we havnt got one that stacks up for this year mate!

And if they are not supporting our ground, they cannot support cas' either.

Also i'm guessing they're ok with Saints playing at Widnes so there is no reason why they would blocks that option if it was ever proposed.

dont think the rl is the issue for us and oakwell, i just dont think we could sustain a viable team there with the support we have, saints are a different bigger club, who win games in style occasionally!

last time we were at oakwell Ray Price and Brian Jackson were here that season the aussies played at bv we could afford to play a few dead fixtures and one of those was sheffield if i remember rightly, and i do cos pricey flattened aston at half time!

Put your hand up and wait your turn chappers!!!
I was asking her!
Where is she anyway?
Also please do not criticise the business accumen of the club, I will not stand for it, I will not!!!

Sorry the truth has hurt. None of you wanted to listen a couple of weeks ago when sir rod made it clear in the WE that a ground share was the only option. No I was reading between the lines and coming up with what I wanted to fit my own agenda. Well now do you believe me? People on here have been deluded, selfish, and arrogant all along with regards Newmarket, you have concentrated on venting your spleen at the Nimbys as you put it. Probably just good honest people who do not want a warehouses the size of 11 rugby pitches in their rural back gardens and have the right under certain planning terms to object, as would any of us.

TRB and his crowed are the ones who have led you on whilst giving you no firm facts, leaving you all to believe that funding was in the bag and that York court would be footing the bill. You lot on here have gone along like sheep and never questioned the scheme to come up with your own conclusions as to weather you were being told all the facts.

You accept answers to problems to questions about flooding etc, like its all sorted in the planning, when in reality anything in York courts planning proposals at this stage are just that, and not sorted until planning is consent is actually given.

Time to stop trusting the word of the anointed few and form your own opinions and challenge the appropriate, people.( WTWC WTCT council Yorkcourt)
=#FF0000Here is an example has anybody asked who is paying Sir Rod and How much That would be a question I would want answering if my future were at stake.

Ps I will admit to resorting to being childish with the pictures etc, that was born out of the frustration of none of you seeing what was in front of your eyes.

Sorry sir!

A: Don't know. But it's plausible. A team with an average gate of 6,000. It's own support staff, facilities and offices. Playing in your off season. Only someone very blinkered wouldn't see the attractions for both clubs. The only real issue would be the cost.

B: Why is it an attempt to exploit franchise, why would the RFL care, Oakwell is a first class stadium about 6 miles as the crow flies from BV (a criteria as it happens). We could move there permanently and the RFL would be happy, a real foothold in S Yorks! The only folk with egg on it's face would be WMDC having to watch it's premier club and namesake playing in a different MDC, that would take some explaining.

C: So theoretically we have a plan B. If we dig our heals in and scupper Glasshoughton do you? I don't see it at the moment so I'd tread carefully and not p*ss Wakey fans off too much though in fairness I don't think that is your aim.

It's all theoretical and I really hope no one is forced down a road they don't want to travel. One thing is certain IMO and that is Wakefield wouldn't survive a season at Glasshoughton. Cas could make a home at Newmarket if they embraced it but you have the wrong man running the club for that. I accept you might not agree with my last statement and feel Newmarket would destroy Cas.

Just as a matter of interest. Had Cas come up with the Newmarket scheme as their own with no ground share and wholly owned by them would you accept it. Is it the share or the location (considering it's almost exactly midway between both existing grounds) that bothers you. For us it's both as Glasshoughton is miles away from and is in Cas (about 2 miles from the existing ground). Surely you have to accept that although neither share is ideal the Glasshoughton option offers us a far sh*ttier and of the stick than Newmarket offers you?

There's a massive difference. Saints are playing there for a year until their ground gets built. You're on about playing at Oakwell for the entire three-year period aren't you?

That would be your truth, you being a member of the board at Barnsley, Wakefield, the RFL and Yorkcourt. These just being a few of the positions you'd need to hold for your version of the truth to have any validity. Back to Fev village for you.

No. It's out of Cas. If it hadn't been in Glasshoughton, it would have been Whitwood. Anywhere outside is not good enough for me. Most definitely location.

I wouldn't be bothered about a share as long as it was in Glasshoughton or Normanton. And I disagree with your last sentence too. Newmarket offers us sod all. We've spent a lot of money on GH, you haven't at Newmarket. There's nothing there for Cas fans that Glasshoughton doesn't offer us.

For so long, Wakefield fans have bleated about how Cas is part of Wakefield. Having a stadium in Castleford is still part of Wakefield under that ethos. It gives us a foothold to target and market the club to new fans in a different area and also take away fans from your rivals? You will be playing in a premier sporting facility in a premier location. Glasshoughton offers you more benefits, IMO. I think you're just stubborn to see/admit it. Even some of your own fans have admitted it is better.

Actually the best option is probably normanton with all 3 teams playing from it!!

boy thats going to take some ego deflations though!

oh no hang on, sorry forget that, Calder time!

Dont think Barnsley would be feasibile unless building work at Newmarket had started and it was for a very short period of time. WTW will not move into a joint project at Glasshoughton and ground share. It just is not feasible and will not happen unless one other thing happens..... merging.

Both clubs are going to have to give in to something v.soon and the only one I think will be a merger and we both play out of one. As both clubs are under the same council and seem to be reliant on them it isnt sustainable for 1 club to get the stadium in their city/town and then the other have to play out of it.

However, if this was to be the case Newmarket is the fairest option for distances etc for both sets of supporters who will both then keep their identity although I dont think this will happen.

On the other hand, if Glasshoughton was built then it may mean Cas may have to lose their identity as it will end up with a merger between the two clubs.

It would surely be suicide for WMDC to lose WTW of anything with the name Wakefield in it which is why I think Glasshoughton could be the favourite to be built if a merger can be swallowed between the 2 clubs and fans. I then think the name of the new club will eventually over time have Wakefield in it somewhere (a bit like shudders and sheff).

Glasshoughton is a very good site - I dont think anyone is denying that - if it were to get the go-ahead though with both clubs then merger is almost definate and we both lose our beloved clubs yet we have a new club with a new name (not even going to suggest one now).

where can i get a bet on no wakefield district club getting a sl franchise next time?

This is a total farce, and frankly both sets of fans should come together on sunday and show we are not just petty squabbling kids, heaven forbid some idiots blowing up over this!

The logic is brilliant. We won't play at Glasshoughton cos it's not Wakefield, yet we're happy to potter along to Oakwell, which, when I went there last, was in Barnsley. Where public transport links between the two are pricey trains or buses where you have to change in Royston on a Sunday...

As for 'the council should build a stadium' - wouldn't you be upset, as a non-fan, for millions to be spent on a massive facility where for 340+ days the main part of it is empty? The new market is a convienient place to slag off, yet the old market was rubbish, and mainly empty apart from a Sunday! Wouldn't you build something to match the demand for it?

Hallelujah - someone with common sense. And if Wakefield fans are that upset coming to Glasshoughton, I'll drive myself to Wakey, pick three of you up and bring you to Glasshoughton (for a small nominal fee*)

We won't play at Glasshoughton because we would end up merged or broke, so we risk Oakwell (and maybe still end up broke) untill Newmarket is ready (if thats still possible) thats the logic.

We give ourselves every chance to remain Wakefield trinity wildcats or go belly up trying, or we could just roll over if you would prefer.

=#8040FFWhy?

Nobody could FORCE the teams to merge, the RFL can ask & offer money, but nor force it. Both teams would still be given a lot of money from Sky per year and I'd bet Wakeys grounds would go UP at Glasshoughton because there would be more travelling fans.

At Oakwell you'd lose a franchise criteria point on the 40% full ruling because it holds over 20,000, at Glasshoughton you wouldn't because it would hold 15,000.

Afraid to say it but Oakwell still is in Barnsley, the good thing is that although the stagecoach buses from Barnsley terminate at Royston, the Arriva buses from Wakefield do go to Barnsley and back which is not quite what you said. Also there are decent rail links from Kirkgate Station to Barnsley and I am not sure but suspect they would be no more expensive than going to GH. Personally I would go to Oakwell but GH never.

Not anymore. They stopped the 444 direct bus to Barnsley (which didn't run on Sundays anyway) and replaced it with a non-Arriva service thus doubling the cost. Trust me, I work there and Arrivas decision has cost me a fortune.