And with that vested interest the RFL would have to think long and hard about Wakefield. If we did get the boot I could see a court case happening not long after.

If I have remembered right, there's a thing in the application saying there word is final and you can't suev

iirc, if you apply, you agree to accept that the decision in final.

Also iirc, the operational rules say that any club starting legal action against the sport's governing body would be immediately suspended from all RFL sanctioned competition. If Trinity sued the RFL because they didn't get a licence, the club would find itself unable to get a game, even in the Pennine League …

Not doubting what you said but the I believe all existing SL clubs, Grade C at least, must apply for a licence. There is no if about it.

This may be the case but clubs, should they feel that the process has not been carried out in an open and fair way and in accordance with the RFL's own guidelines, still have a legal right to sue if they wished, suspended or not. If they then won then they would have to be readmitted and the RFL would probably get taken to cleaners financially. The RFL are not above the law of the land. That said any club following this course would be utterley stupid and cutting off its nose to spite its face, but it is theoretically possible.

Lottery system to increase membership to 5000, and improvements to Belle Vue. The membership push I can understand, but the act of sticking a few roofs on some of the ground seems like a pointless waste of money. We have the worst stadium in Super League, we are doing improvements to make it similar to Wheldon Road, the Willows and Knowsley Road. These stadiums were considered to be not good enough, which is why they are all moving.

This plan seems to say that we are getting ready for a few years in the championship, in itself not bad, gives the new leadership time to make new plans and start from scratch. However it would be a very big fight to regain Super league status.

The plans made don’t seem bad in themselves, but sugar-coating might be bad in the long term.

Someone just did - Andrew Glover is funding the redevelopment of BV to make it SL compliant for the next round of franchises; that'll be your million quid right there, give or take a couple of hundred grand.

The North terrace isn't just being covered it's being completely demolished, flattened and rebuilt with a roof over it!

Four major points stand out for me,
1. We will have a grade 'B' stadium (very close to Grade 'A') ready to go for the beginning of the 2012 season. THIS IS WHAT THE RFL WERE PROMISED WE WOULD HAVE WHEN WE WERE AWARDED A FRANCHISE IN 2008!
we will have fulfilled that promise albeit by modifying Belle Vue rather than moving to Newmarket.

2. Belle Vue will be ready for business before or at the very worst at the same time as Salfords and St Helens new stadiums. As we know those clubs are largely believed to be out of the firing line because they will have complied with new stadium requirements by the 2012 deadline and so will we.

3. New Craven Park (HKR) is viewed by the RFL as more compliant than Belle Vue solely because of the temporary stands that they erected to improve it pending their permanent improvements.
The upgrading of Belle Vue will far surpass those changes made at New Craven Park and our proposed permanent improvement will also surpass theirs because ours is a completely new stadium at Newmarket.

4. Having delivered on stadia requirements the only blight on our record is Administration, we have already been punished for that and cannot be punished for it again. We will score low on the 'Financial' element of the appraisal but even that will be mitigated by the change of ownership and the stability the new owner has brought.

Other factors in our favour are:
* The ability to spend the full cap next year if we remain in SL, significantly only the seventh club in SL to do so!

* The high profile TV advertising campeign which has gone down extremely well at Red Hall.

* Community Dept, I know it's well known but it really is highly regarded and it's one of the reasons for the next factor on the list

* The RFL do not want Wakefield out of SL! Contrary to popular opinion the governing body have helped Wakefield wherever they can and would dearly love to have a strong Wakefield club competing in SL. What they didn't want was a hamstrung club limping from embarrassment to disaster. I know, straight from the horses mouth at Red Hall, that the RFL see a strong Wakefield, spending the cap and in a new stadium as their best possibility of adding another club to the likes of Warrington, Hull, Sts and the rest.

One final point that's not been mentioned much since last night, the Spirit of 1873 Club will help to finance the creation of the best youth recruitment and Academy set up in the game. It will also help Wakefield Trinity retain it's outstanding home produced tallent, so no more Skerretts to Hull, Kelly's to HKR, Maskills, Spencers or Ellis's to Leeds, Wrights to Wigan, Westwoods to Warrington or Broughs to Huddersfield. How many times have we lamented the loss of these players and wondered how good we would have been if we weren't forced to sell them.

It's really really a good thing that we have this initiative and apart from the weekly draws we just might help to build the home grown team we've often imagined we could have!

Come on, you don't think this might happen. Game or no game, if you have a case, you have a case. Also, who said the member club would sue or make a high court challenge? In Salford's case Peel would be straight down the High Court for an injunction against the RFL for restricting their trade... that is why the RFL are not going to kick them out.

Also, what about Savills. If Savills report can be proved to be flawed or lack a robust evidence base then why can't Cas or Wakey challenge Savills legally for undue and unfair restriction of trade?

Now, I am not saying that they would have a case or if they did, would they take the risk but just saying "or the rules say this, so they can't do anything", is just naive!

I was about to post that but you've done a much better job. This point seems to have been missed, in the clamour to crtictise the lottery as another 'money-grabbing' scheme - it was very much sold as an opportunity to stop WTW from being a selling club and as a way of financing an Academy set-up to rival the best in Super League.

I think some fans need to take a step back and have somewhat of a reality check.

Months ago we were hours away from going out of business. One local man (& his support team) put their money where their mouth was and took a HUGE risk taking on our troubled club when many others had looked at it but in it's hour of need had walked away.

Yes ok it's backs to the wall time BUT I am confident we are now in safe hands and in a far more stable state than in previous years under the old regime. I'm also confident we have some clever, intelligent and trustworthy business men running our club now, not back stabbing, lying cheats.

IMHO the fans and people of Wakefield need to stop moaning and bitching about god knows what and get behind the club, the players and all the people who ARE trying to help take this club forward and bloody support them.

Yes we may feel a little underwhelmed, let down by previous owners, feel down re all negativity that has happened at the club in the past etc etc but what's said is said and what's done is done.

It's time to start a fresh, we have a clean slate and a very slim chance of still maintaining our SL survival and we as fans and citizens of Wakefield need to get behind the club as it needs us and our support more than ever before.

I for one welcome the change, hugely respect the man (& all concerned) for taking our club on and I for one will be happy to hold my hand up and do what I can, when I can for whom I can to help us climb out of the hole we are in and move our great club forward.

Don't look back in months to come and regret what you didn't do, what you should have done..... the club needs us now.

Yes there is: you (as in any club with an SL licence for 2009-11, not specifically Trinity) could decide not to apply for a place in SL for 2012-14.

You're right that all clubs with a 2009-11 licence need to apply for a 2012-14 licence if they want to continue playing though (though only us clubs with Grade C licences are at risk of losing them: the worst that could happen to a club with a current A or B licence is that their licence is downgraded)

Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 Quote With Rugby Football League bosses ready to announce on July 26 the next draft of three-year licences that will determine membership of the top flight from 2012-14, [size=150the Wildcats have shelved ambitious plans for a new ground[/size and instead revealed a redevelopment scheme for the the Rapid Solicitors Stadium.'"

Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 Quote With Rugby Football League bosses ready to announce on July 26 the next draft of three-year licences that will determine membership of the top flight from 2012-14, [size=150the Wildcats have shelved ambitious plans for a new ground[/size and instead revealed a redevelopment scheme for the the Rapid Solicitors Stadium.'"

Depends, they might just put a couple of big conservatories up around the place!



On that note though if its big investment great, tell the world how much its costing. It seems to be the way others operate and what the RFL like to hear.

I bet a decent lawyer would be rubbing his hands at a case like that!

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" To be fair the press release should have made a mention of Newmarket still being the clubs plan A and the BV development just being a temporary measure.

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" To be fair the press release should have made a mention of Newmarket still being the clubs plan A and the BV development just being a temporary measure.

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" Very poor journalism.

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" Very poor journalism.

Maybe so. By all accounts Radio Leeds have been mis reporting. This is the clubs response on Facebook.

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" Done! Are there no standards or essential qualities required in order to become a journalist?

Quote ="deeHell"Will someone inform this so called journalist that we haven't shelved plans for Newmarket. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... _1_3461744 '" Done! Are there no standards or essential qualities required in order to become a journalist?

Maybe, but nowhere other than in reports written by crap journalists is it written that Newmarket is scrapped, so in the absence of such BIG news they've just made it up!

Incompetent!

Nope which is why all press releases have to be as clear & simple as possible for them to understand! They will always look for a story even if there isn't one so you got to get everything watertight.

Everybody needs to get their hand in their pocket and join the lottery whether thet are a member already or not.I am a season ticket holder,our lass a silver member and young un a gold but all will be joining the lottery indeed we adults joined last night.
AG is putting his hand in his pocket to redevelop BV after only been in charge since Feb yet TR never did it in 20 years knowing eventually it would cost our top flight status.
SO FOR ALL YOU SO CALLED FANS IT IS £2 PER WEEK TO SAVE OUR SL STATUS,AG IS PUTTING IN 100'S OF THOUSANDS.
Also I believe this will put us in front of Cas, admin or not cos of AG due to the fact Red Hall have been listening to RW drivel for years and he still ain't delivered,whereas AG is putting his money where his mouth is.
The difference between us now and Widnes last time is that we are already in SL so why should we be given the boot if we meet what the RL want?

What do you expect with COCK in his your name

I sort of agree with your view here.

The problem is, in modern journalism and a 24 hour news culture, things move quickly and the speed of the story is important for many media outlets such as websites and radio. Also, journalism and journalists are not what they used to be. The need to fact check has become secondary to the speed of the news itself. So, our young reporter here at the YP is probably a junior member of the website team, his news editor throws a press release and story at him, which he then uses the internet to research and does not bother picking up the phone to James or the club at all. That is ok to him, other news outlets are reporting they have shelved Newmarket, that was not clear in the press release, so we will run with that... someone must have checked this before me??? Err, no, someone, somewhere made an assumption and now the whole media circus is reporting this as a fact because the story is not big enough or worth the time for the website reporter to check any further... he is now writing his 10th story of the day for the website about some Mum's wanting a pedestrian crossing on a dangerous bit of road.

This can also work the other way and I must admit, RW and Cas seem to do well here!

Remember how Cas had SOLD WR for £50m the other week... it was on the BBC main website for gods sake, it must be true! Of course it wasn't, the reporter at the BBC website (paid slightly more money than the guy at the YP and lives in London) made some assumptions. To be fair to Cas, the press release didn't say that at all, it said the development value was worth £50m, which is probably true! However, quick as a flash in the rush to report the story the whole of the media are reporting this as being a fact... even Sky News, who probably should have just picked up the phone to the sports department and fact checked it with them and got the right answer. But now the BBC have said...

You need to be very clear about key messages and I think you are right, that it was not clear enough and now this is the result!

That is how I belive it is as well.
I have mentioned this in the past on here and I got shouted down over it!