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If true, our backwards trajection is increasing at an alarming rate.
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If true, our backwards trajection is increasing at an alarming rate.
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| Quote ="Willzay"If true, our backwards trajection is increasing at an alarming rate.'"
Wasn't he one of JK's projects- interesting
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| I'm not sure Howarth is any improvement on what we've already got. Seems a bit odd if it is us, especially with no coach in place at the minute.
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If true, our backwards trajection is increasing at an alarming rate.'"
So would you rather have Godinet spelling with McShane, with Godinet on the bench for a big chunk of the game?
Or would you have Howarth spelling with McShane, with Godinet spending a big chunk of the game on the field, next to Smith in the halves?
Would take Howarth over Miller every day of the week.
Since Howarth left us, he hasn't exactly dropped off into obscurity, he's had some decent clubs.
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If true, our backwards trajection is increasing at an alarming rate.'"
So would you rather have Godinet spelling with McShane, with Godinet on the bench for a big chunk of the game?
Or would you have Howarth spelling with McShane, with Godinet spending a big chunk of the game on the field, next to Smith in the halves?
Would take Howarth over Miller every day of the week.
Since Howarth left us, he hasn't exactly dropped off into obscurity, he's had some decent clubs.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"So would you rather have Godinet spelling with McShane, with Godinet on the bench for a big chunk of the game?
Or would you have Howarth spelling with McShane, with Godinet spending a big chunk of the game on the field, next to Smith in the halves?
Would take Howarth over Miller every day of the week.
Since Howarth left us, he hasn't exactly dropped off into obscurity, he's had some decent clubs.'"
The only problem with Godinet in the halves with Smith is that Pita has no kicking game (like Sykes) to take the work load off Smith. Admitedly Miller has no kicking game either!
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| Poor man's Danny Washbrook, but it would free up Godinet to play in the halves and allow McShane to be spelled when he becomes fatigued and a liability.
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| I like Howarth when he was with us, and now seems to have developed a game at hooker.
Ok by me, especially if it means having Godinet in the halves
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| Quote ="Fordy"I'm not sure Howarth is any improvement on what we've already got. Seems a bit odd if it is us, especially with no coach in place at the minute.'"
This
Surely with a new coach about to start, we shouldn't be moving any players in or out.
Give the new guy as much "wiggle room" as we can.
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| We have had Griffin, Hand and Kavanagh on loan, offering nothing more than what we have.
Howarth offers options at hooker and loose.
Good player, underrated.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"[uWe have had Griffin, Hand and Kavanagh on loan, offering nothing more than what we have.[/u
Howarth offers options at hooker and loose.
Good player, underrated.'"
They actually offered us players to put on the park.
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| I'd rather bring Sykes back and stick him with Smith while Godinet and McShane interchange, or bring back one of our own in Matty Wildie or James Davey to spel McShane. Howarth will be an equivalent signing to Miller = ineffectual.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I'm not sure Howarth is any improvement on what we've already got. Seems a bit odd if it is us, especially with no coach in place at the minute.'"
Must be the office cat making the player decisions now, feel that he/she needs a pay rise, an extra large portion on fish Friday.
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| Quote ="PHe"They actually offered us players to put on the park.'"
But didn't change the dynamics of the team.
Griffin played two or three games, did Hand even play?
Howarth can free up players to get more out of what we have.
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| Quote ="Dreadnaught"Could this indicate a plan to move Godinet into the halves and Howarth to spell with McShane?'"
Lets hope your right, because atm nothing would surprise me and it could also indicate a swap deal for McShane
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| Quote ="chissitt"Lets hope your right, because atm nothing would surprise me and it could also indicate a swap deal for McShane'"
That was my worry, they have been interested in him for a while. I also have to ask why this would be happening now before the coach comes in? As for Howarth himself he is a sticking plaster kind of player when others have short term injuries, not someone who you want playing at hooker week in week out. His distribution is painfully slow and neither is it particularly accurate. Any advantage of having Godinet on the field more would be mitigated by having him distributing the ball from dummy half.
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| Before we get too excited, Hawarth is "tipped" to be a "loan" deal
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| I'd like to think that rather than offloading McShane that Howarth is to work beside him, allowing McShane to be spelled, this would allow Godinet to play beside Smith.
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| Deary me, Howarth is one of the worst Super League hookers I have ever seen. I was amazed he got a deal with Hull at the start of the season, so no surprise to see he is no surplus to requirements. A Championship standard player at best, not what Wakefield need.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"That was my worry, they have been interested in him for a while. I also have to ask why this would be happening now before the coach comes in? As for Howarth himself he is a sticking plaster kind of player when others have short term injuries, not someone who you want playing at hooker week in week out. His distribution is painfully slow and neither is it particularly accurate. Any advantage of having Godinet on the field more would be mitigated by having him distributing the ball from dummy half.'"
If we believe the rumours, both Hull clubs' have shown interest in him and both clubs have shown in the past that they have the spending power and are not afraid to do so, McShane is out of contract at the end of the season and in all honesty can even the most optimistic of our supporters see him re-signing for us I certainly can't, without knowing the in's and out's of the situation i.e McShanes feelings atm Carters view on the situation and the temp coach's as well it would be nearly impossible to make any sense of it, but nothing would surprise me whatever the outcome.
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| Christ. The lads not even got here yet, IF he is coming, and hes already not wanted.
Also, with no mention on either Ashurst or Ali and their injuries, maybe hes coming in to cover loose, whilst Washy covers back row?
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| Quote ="Willzay"I'd rather bring Sykes back and stick him with Smith while Godinet and McShane interchange, or bring back one of our own in Matty Wildie or James Davey to spel McShane. Howarth will be an equivalent signing to Miller = ineffectual.'"
When he played for us he was easily one of our better players and did more in half a season than Wildie or Davy managed in years. The reason Salford pounced for him was because of the form he showed with us which in turn must have carried on as Saints who don't generally buy rubbish.
He's no world beater but to dismiss him just like that shows you up.
I'd love to know what sort of players you're expecting to join a leaky ship - please don't say Wildie.
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| It would be disappointing if this was the catalyst to release either McShane or Godinet, because Howarth is not a patch on either at hooker.
If not though I think he could do us a very good job at loose forward,which I think is his natural position. Tackles very well, is mobile and has decent handling skills.
The lad is certainly not the worst player in the world, as some seem to think
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| For me, Howarth's short kicking game was pretty good. Bit weak defending wide out but no worse than many of our current crop and certainly an all round better option going forward than Kavanagh, Griffin or Hand.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I'd rather bring Sykes back and stick him with Smith while Godinet and McShane interchange, or bring back one of our own in Matty Wildie or James Davey to spel McShane. Howarth will be an equivalent signing to Miller = ineffectual.'"
Howarth (21) played more games than Davey (19) did for us and not far off Wildie (30) a lot of which was off the bench, so why is he any less one of our own?
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| I hear Daniel Smith is going to Warrington. Not sure if soon or end of season.
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