So can someone clarify for me, we've sold Tim Smith for £140,000 ( I'm assuming he was on £70,000 a year) Kyle Amour for £40,000(again I'm assuming he's on £40,000 per year) and possibly Ben for £30,000, that makes a total of £210,000, does that mean the club/speccis need to find another £190,000, or is this money being used now and we still need to find £400,000?

Yes JINJER see page 3 of this thread.

Thanks, didn't realise it had been explained.

I was under the impression the £400k the club are undercapitalised was divulged after Tim Smith’s transfer & I don’t think they got anywhere near £140k.

Amor, £50k, Benny £30k if it comes off, therefore I would say that’s in the region of £320k still to find.

Yes thats how i read it.

My personal opinion is that the attendance given on Sunday was correct. Some of the attendances announced previously may or may not have been accurate.

As I understand it the fee paid is the players wagers for the remainder of his contract, that's why I'd assumed TS was on seventy grand multiplied by the two years left on his contract, the new chairman did say it was a six figue fee.

No I didn't?

Don't think the transfer fees have anything to do with any of the players salaries. The length of time left on the contract might give us a little more bargaining power but thats all, its ultimatley about the guys ability and worth to the clubs.

I think you'll find it does


It's a combination of all of the above

The thing to factor in with both Smith and Amor is that we have saved 3 months wages on them also.
In Tim's case I would guess that equates to a saving of somewhere between £20k and £25k. In Amor's case I would guess somewhere around the £10k mark.

I know that is not exactly funds raised but it is a big chunk of savings.

Does that apply in all sport then? Was Gareth Bale contracted to Spurs for the next 20 years, or was he already being paid £400k per week with 4 years left on his contract?????


Whilst it will have a bearing, I wouldn't have thought this was the basis for calculating transfer fees.

Sorry must have mis read it, so how much did you get for Timmy?

Sorry, what I meant was just because a player has, say, 2 years left on his contract and earns 80K a year then he isn't going to go for a tranfer fee of 160K. Salary levels come into the negotiations obviously as it affects what a buying club can afford to pay for a player and whether the selling club needs them off the wage bill. As you say its a combination of things, other Vince Mellars would be worth the best part of 100 grand!

Fwiw. Rangi Chase's contract was worth £400k+. And we got £112'500 for him. And on that basis. I'd doubt Smith pulled in £140k also.

But I'm only presuming.

Youve saved 3 months of smith wage as that was an immediate transfer. Is Amors an immediate one or for next year?. Havent seen it stated either way anywhere.

Be interesting to know whether that is the case. We know Smith went immediately, but then Salford could fit him under their salary cap. But can Saints fit two months of Amors contract under their cap? Has his wage come straight off our books and onto theirs or is it next seasons transfer and we will be paying him until november?

A substantial fee.





An interesting one that, if he was being paid by St’s from now couldn’t they throw him into the mix for the playoffs, or has the RFL put a block on that, after the NRL lot started coming over - Andrew Johns for instance.

Yes, blocked. That's why Smith couldn't play for Salford either

That's where the supply and demand part comes in.

If say Smith had a contract with us worth £100k, and you really wanted him, we could justify saying that to buy him out of the contract would take us being paid that value..... but it's only an indication of his worth. To break the contract though Smith would still want his money. As Salford wanted him they are able to convince him by improving his terms so no big deal to Smith.

However Mellors isn't wanted so badly so we want rid more than they want to buy so everyone knows we will probably let him go for free.....but in that case Mellors has a right to say he doesn't want to break the contract unless he gets the same money. If not from new team then from us......so not worth the sale.

So which players have hull signed from a club in admin?

I suppose you could say they got a full set for nothing from Gateshead.

Dont know for definite but wasnt Sam Obst to Hull around the time of our period in admin??

Sure was.

Completely agree and have said exactly the same. Running a RL club just isn't the same as running any other business, not when fans and expectation are added to the mix.