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| Quote ="TRB"And yet they, who have much of the control over these matters and who are aware of far more details than we are privilidge to, choose to continue to work with Ted! Perhaps they are more understanding, or perhaps they believe that the situation Ted is in is recoverable and that he is the best man for the job?'"
It could just be as simple as he is currently the Chairmen of the club and therefore the person they need to work with. They can't force him out
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| Can see the joy some of our 'rivals' will have with this latest news.
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| I have been a big critic of the Ted Richardson corner shop family run business, but who else has there been or is there in the pipeline in whatever format have seriously come in with a firm offer and with sound business plan to take the club forward i do not know of one ?
What we should be grateful for is that his financial problems are not linked directly to the club ie what is owed in outstanding debts money can be took for the club to pay for these or vice versa companies owed money can claim from the club. There are alot of football clubs have gone bust through this.
We must thank Ted for putting in his money to keep the club running, but yes it is time for a change.
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| I hope this looks better in the morning.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"I hope this looks better in the morning.'" not an ideal timing again but a statement from the club is needed in some way to alleviate the pressure on the club
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| I wouldn't hold your breath for any statement from the club - they will keep their heads down hiding behind the excuse that its a personal issue for Ted and conveniently forgetting the damage it could do to the clubs already less than professional reputation
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| By how it was explained earlier I can't understand how any of the people owed money in this would agree to the terms of this IVA? I certainly wouldn't!
Has it already been agreed to?
If it has I can't see how he can continue to be Chairman of the club, surely he has to step down...
Time to test the water and see if our saviour really is out there IMO.
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| Quote ="TRB"I'm sure there will be more details issued in due course, but a few people have had an explanation of the issues involved and it is a complicated situation - a technical one.
By going into an IVA the creditors are entitled to money from Ted. If he didn't go into an IVA they could have sought money from his companies. That's what I mean when I say it protects the club. [uIt is NOT incompetence on the part of Ted [/uand I would urge caution about those type of comments until the detail is known.
The RFL are aware of the details. Their response is awaited.'"
I said "gives" the impression of incompetence, so no I will not be careful, FFS this forum is like everything in this poxy country, run by people who are half book half man.
Is there any point to a forum unless we all sing around the camp fire how great life is ?
Good night, I am off to the other forum, the one that will grow with a bit of luck to massive proportions
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I said "gives" the impression of incompetence, so no I will not be careful, FFS this forum is like everything in this poxy country, run by people who are half book half man.
Is there any point to a forum unless we all sing around the camp fire how great life is ?
Good night, I am off to the other forum, the one that will grow with a bit of luck to massive proportions
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The forum that cleared up after 7/8 years or so that Sir Olivier Elima and his 31 user names was a completely different person to Rhubarb?
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"I hope this looks better in the morning.'"
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I said "gives" the impression of incompetence, so no I will not be careful, FFS this forum is like everything in this poxy country, run by people who are half book half man.
Is there any point to a forum unless we all sing around the camp fire how great life is ?
Good night, I am off to the other forum, the one that will grow with a bit of luck to massive proportions
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Quite a few have joined and goodluck to them, there is room for both forums.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_wave.gif Quite a few have joined and goodluck to them, there is room for both forums.'"
Wich 'other' forum?
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"The forum that cleared up after 7/8 years or so that [uSir Olivier Elima[/u and his 31 user names was a completely different person to Rhubarb?'"
I qiute liked SOE and hopefully one day he will return.
Anyway back on topic.
For me everything hinges on the new stadium and planning permission, this could not have come at a worse time
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| would the players have known about this could it explain how bad we have played and kear wanting to leave?
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| Quote ="JLAYTON"would the players have known about this could it explain how bad we have played and kear wanting to leave?'"
It doesn't really affect them or Kear. They will still get their money and i'm sure if the Catalan job came up without this Kear would still havoc fancied it. The only person it will affect is Ted.Of course that won't stop people dragging Trinity's name through the mud.
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| Quote ="i8no-one"I said "gives" the impression of incompetence, so no I will not be careful, FFS this forum is like everything in this poxy country, run by people who are half book half man.
Is there any point to a forum unless we all sing around the camp fire how great life is ?
Good night, I am off to the other forum, the one that will grow with a bit of luck to massive proportions
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No need for that. I have put the club side of the story, with a gentle reminder about libel, but I have not edited nor deleted anyones thoughts on this issue - nor will I unless they breach the AUP. I also fail to see how there is any form of even-ness about the 'other' forum - although I have not seen it and have no wish to (I am aware of some of it's content).
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| If as has been suggested the club are self sufficient and Ted does not put any money in any more (and with the IVA he wouldn't be able to even if he wanted to) - this is even more of a reason to consider a change at the top. Afterall, I don't think anybody could endorse him as Chairmen based on how the club is run.
We would no doubt save some cash and increase the professionalism of the club, if his family were relieved of their posts at the same time.
The situation is such that I see us dying a slow death under the current regime, so letting someone else have a crack is not such a gamble anymore. The next 6 months are IMO crucial to where the club go from here (with franchise applications due in later this year) and we therefore need to start and address our failings within the club now (and hope that there are some positive developments re the Stadium in time for the application submission).
One things for sure if we go out of SL. I cannot see us getting back in (even with a new stadium) unless Cas who would presumably stay in if we went out, did not make a good fist of the further 3 years or they extend the league which is unlikely to happen.
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| My problem with all this is nothing more than the non Wakefield fans perception of our situation. TRB, mate no one out of Wakefield care about the reasons, or the discussions relating to Ted's situation. If I have offended you, I am very sorry
I can only assume that you, I, and many others know how he was shafted over this, but thats not the point. People dont care, people make up or fill in the gaps that they dont know about. Perception of a situation in the public eye is all it needs
Doom and Gloom is all we have at the moment. I have not been happy from the day Brough left, the team and the atmosphere at the moment is shocking. I dont like it, I hate the situation we are in, and can only dream of a time almost 10 years ago with the likes of Paul Jackson, Ryan Hudson, Keith Mason, Law, Pearson, Sova, Willie, ect ect who may not have been the best players out there, who for most part were kids, but gave 150% week in week out, and win or lose you left knowing that they had busted a nut for the team.
Cooke, Blanch, Latu, Moore, and a couple more, get some old dvd's of these kids and no hopers at the time, and take a leaf out of their book, its called effort, pride, and passion, things you know sweet FA about.
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| You are a joke, you keep on defending ted, you either lied or weren't deemed important enough to be let into the truth, regarding my PM, that you are now telling us all about on behalf of the club.
To me you have little credibility as far as ted is concerned.
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| Quote ="i8no-one"My problem with all this is nothing more than the non Wakefield fans perception of our situation. TRB, mate no one out of Wakefield care about the reasons, or the discussions relating to Ted's situation. If I have offended you, I am very sorry
I can only assume that you, I, and many others know how he was shafted over this, but thats not the point. =#BF0040People dont care, people make up or fill in the gaps that they dont know about. Perception of a situation in the public eye is all it needs
Doom and Gloom is all we have at the moment. I have not been happy from the day Brough left, the team and the atmosphere at the moment is shocking. I dont like it, I hate the situation we are in, and can only dream of a time almost 10 years ago with the likes of Paul Jackson, Ryan Hudson, Keith Mason, Law, Pearson, Sova, Willie, ect ect who may not have been the best players out there, who for most part were kids, but gave 150% week in week out, and win or lose you left knowing that they had busted a nut for the team.
Cooke, Blanch, Latu, Moore, and a couple more, get some old dvd's of these kids and no hopers at the time, and take a leaf out of their book, its called effort, pride, and passion, things you know sweet FA about.'"
Understood - well and truly.
But, the RFL have been kept informed, so have Colin and Rodney etc... These seem to be the most important people to our club at this time and, if we can keep them convinced of our future, then we will ride this one out.
IF those above decide it would be better to have a change of name above the door, then we will have to address it. I have got to know Ted and co quite well in the past 10 years, but I know them because of my support for the club and I have always seen Ted as the custodian, not as the club itself - a point that Ted is always keen to make himself.
I do not see anyone ready to fill Ted's boots at this time - that is not to say someone will not appear from the mist!
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| I am neither a doom and gloomer nor a rose tinted specs wearer but all this 'stick' TRB is getting seems
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| Quote ="kinleycat"You are a joke, you keep on defending ted, you either lied or weren't deemed important enough to be let into the truth, regarding my PM, that you are now telling us all about on behalf of the club.
To me you have little credibility as far as ted is concerned.'"
I'll assume that is me!
I didn't know at the time - I found out last Sunday night by PM and subsequently informed the club that the news was out there and ready to break. I think they had hoped that this would stay private, but it has lasted 6 weeks - which I reckon was pretty good really!
I appreciate your concern!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I am neither a doom and gloomer nor a rose tinted specs wearer but all this 'stick' TRB is getting seems
to be getting a bit out of hand! Come on give the guy some slack, its getting out of hand chaps!'"
Thanks for that - I have been expecting a pasting, but the work continues!
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| Clearly if you set yourself up as the mouthpeace of the club and the Walls come tumbling down, your gonna get covered in brick dust!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Wich 'other' forum?'"
the other one , the one where men are men
like al says room for more than 1 forum im happy here on rlfans if posters are not happy with this board then they will naturally stop posting and go elsewhere. i hear that its just wakey fans on there .
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