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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Over the two years he signed for? If that’s the case it’s about right.
Gaskell overall made solid contributions in 2022. What we learned though was he isn’t a regular halfback option but more effective as a centre where he played very well.
If it’s 100k a season it’s a bit steep but I’ve never seen him give less than 100% in a game for trinity and so long as that continues he earns his money. Not that it should be public knowledge or even be discussed.
Gaskell could offer us solid options for centre and fill in cover in emergencies at FB and HB. He adds value imo. If you had asked me mid 2022 when he largely played HB I’d have been less positive but Gaskell showed up well and did a good job in that centre spot so I had a bit of a turnaround on my opinion of him.'"
So what is Tim saying, we paid 100k over two years for Gaskell? That’s not how he first painted it as that’s 50k a year which is more like it.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Problem we have when it comes to the halves, we have both Lino and Gaskell on 100k+, which for me isn`t a great use of a limited budget, we look to have deliberately gone for a cheaper option in Smith to provide competition and cover in the halves but for what it`s worth I think Smith will be a good signing and will take number 6 for next year, I wouldn`t be expecting any further additions to the spine.'"
So is it Gaskell 100k over two years? If so your post is a touch misleading. I wouldn’t consider 50k OTT.
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| Quote ="vastman"So is it Gaskell 100k over two years? If so your post is a touch misleading. I wouldn’t consider 50k OTT.'"
Watched the same podcast last night, Harrison alludes to both been 100k plus on the cap, was just a passing comment in relation to Morgan Smith tbf but suggest 100k plus a year.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"Watched the same podcast last night, Harrison alludes to both been 100k plus on the cap, was just a passing comment in relation to Morgan Smith but suggest 100k plus a year.'"
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Is that each.
Can I have a link if you have one? This I feel is a breach of confidentiality and I intend to inform the relevant people. I’m absolutely certain the club won’t be happy at all.
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| Quote ="vastman"Aludes to?
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Can I have a link if you have one? This I feel is a breach of confidentiality and I intend to inform the relevant people. I’m absolutely certain the club won’t be happy at all.'"
Well the blokes just guessing isn't he, he isn't Linos agent, I'm not sure if he's gaskells? Although he does represent most SL players, you would assume doing the job he does he has a good idea of what a lot of players earn, if I was him though I'd stay away from speculating on players salaries all together but it was basically in context of saying we have 2 high earners there so they have gone for a cheaper option in Smith (he obviously knows what Smith earns as he is his agent) Not sure how to link from mobile mate as I use the app.
Interestingly he started talking about us taking the cheap option with Applegarth as well, saying we would be paying 70/80k rather than paying 150 for an aussie.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"Well the blokes just guessing isn't he, he isn't Linos agent, I'm not sure if he's gaskells? Although he does represent most SL players, you would assume doing the job he does he has a good idea of what a lot of players earn, if I was him though I'd stay away from speculating on players salaries all together but it was basically in context of saying we have 2 high earners there so they have gone for a cheaper option in Smith (he obviously knows what Smith earns as he is his agent) Not sure how to link from mobile mate as I use the app.
Interestingly he started talking about us taking the cheap option with Applegarth as well, saying we would be paying 70/80k rather than paying 150 for an aussie.'"
The only people who should know a player's salary are the player, the club and I suppose the agent. If the agent is passing this information on then he's way out of order.
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| Going off experience, I would say £100k a year, given the calibre of player, I would say is a little excessive.
However, I think £50k a year, would be inaccurate too.
Given the fact that he's come from a cash rich club, he would have been on a decent contract. I think maybe £60-70k would be more accurate. Also, an average salary, based on the cap, abd a squad of 30, would allude to a similar figure.
Its guesswork by everyone on here
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| SHOW ME THE MONEY !!! What type of Gob Slight uses such a title. To me that tells you all you need to know about the bloke and there are too many of his ilk milking a living out of the game
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| Quote ="vastman"Where have you proved me wrong, give me the link and stop being an idiot.
I can’t be bothered to find it I can be bothered to listen to it. Because quite frankly I think the agent has broken the law as this is confidential info. I don’t doubt for a second he knows the figure what I doubt is he’d be stupid enough to give specifics.
I can’t imagine MC dealing with someone who did that could you. How damaging do you think that info if true could damage the teams structure. Nobody would put up with that.
So again, link please, because I will go out of my way to find out if this sort of thing is ethical/allowed.'"
Weirdly my job title isn't Vastmans PA. I've given you the information, go find the video yourself. Little grass.
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| Quote ="vastman"Aludes to?
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Can I have a link if you have one? This I feel is a breach of confidentiality and I intend to inform the relevant people. I’m absolutely certain the club won’t be happy at all.'"
You do know that nobody on this forum reports into you right? You've been given the info countless times. Off you go to find it yourself Vasty
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| I’ve heard from a very good source that Gaskell is on £80k a year
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"I’ve heard from a very good source that Gaskell is on £80k a year'"
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| It looks like guy is minted as he has at least 4 contracts, 1 for £100k, 1 for £100k over two years, 1 for £80k and 1 for £50.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It looks like guy is minted as he has at least 4 contracts, 1 for £100k, 1 for £100k over two years, 1 for £80k and 1 for £50.'"
Not bad for a fella that averages less than 15 games a season!
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| Quote ="marc271841"You do know that nobody on this forum reports into you right? You've been given the info countless times. Off you go to find it yourself Vasty
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You start a rumour then you back it up, not my job. If you can’t back it up I’ll be on you, I really don’t care if it spoils your world view, being free to voice an opinion doesn’t mean you go unchallenged, try to grasp this.
I could, as indeed you could, email the club direct and ask. They won’t tell you of course as these people are grown ups (give it a go you might like it) but you might get a hint with the row of laughing emojis at the end.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It looks like guy is minted as he has at least 4 contracts, 1 for £100k, 1 for £100k over two years, 1 for £80k and 1 for £50.'"
Let's do some basic maths.
Last figure I recall was that we spent 1.3 million on wages per year, may be wrong but we have to start somewhere.
So according to the experts, based on last years squad of 34 players.
Lineham 100K+
Gaskell 100K+
Lino 100K+
Now the top earners allegedly were, and I'm guessing of course
Fifita. 125K
TJ 125K
Now for the others who must by any logic be on similar to Gaskell, but I'll give some slack.
Tanginoa. 80K
Tupou. 80K
Lynne. 80K
Miller. 80K
That lot comes to 870K
That leaves 430K to split between 24 players. These include the likes of Hood, Ashurst, Jowitt, Whitbread, Arona, Kay, Crowther, Batchelor and Pitts who won't be cheap. Put crudely thats 18K a player on average. I'd guess those players alone would be on a minimum of 40K a season and I'm being very mean there. That's 400K, leaving 30K to split between 14 players! That's 2.2K P/A!!!
I know I'm purely guessing but I'm doing so based on the Gaskell 100K+ figure and that has to be right surely.
Sorry if my maths may be slightly out, I've rushed this post a bit but you get the idea.
Figures don't stack up and as we know with Mr Carter the figures always have to stack up.
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| 1.6 million on wages was the last figure i heard, half a million below salary cap. (It came from an interview with Carter & Chester a while back from memory). I believe Fifita was our only player over 100k, but a few nearing it (80-95k range). And yes Gaskell was one of those. And sadly Lineham. Some of the younger lads don’t earn much at all given what they put themselves through which keeps the average down. Bear in mind the average super league salary is circa 70-75k so thinking we (as a bottom end club) can pick up established players, who also likely have interest elsewhere, for less than the going rate is fanciful. We have to pay the going rate at least then sell them a dream.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"1.6 million on wages was the last figure i heard, half a million below salary cap. (It came from an interview with Carter & Chester a while back from memory). I believe Fifita was our only player over 100k, but a few nearing it (80-95k range). And yes Gaskell was one of those. And sadly Lineham. Some of the younger lads don’t earn much at all given what they put themselves through which keeps the average down. Bear in mind the average super league salary is circa 70-75k so thinking we (as a bottom end club) can pick up established players, who also likely have interest elsewhere, for less than the going rate is fanciful. We have to pay the going rate at least then sell them a dream.'"
Sorry but you don't know that, nobody knows that except the club and the player, it's folly to think you do but then that's forums for you, anyone can claim knowledge, me included.
No where did MC specifically state that Gaskell or Lineham were one of those.
Going rate yes, but not for a player with Gaskells injury record it isn't, the club isn't stupid.
Think your 1.6 million is high, I'll split it at 145k
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| Anyway moving on, Fox Sports in Australia reporting we were one of the Super League clubs looking at signing James Tamou. Sounds though like he wasn’t keen and is signing for the Cowboys over there instead.
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| Quote ="vastman"You start a rumour then you back it up, not my job. If you can’t back it up I’ll be on you, I really don’t care if it spoils your world view, being free to voice an opinion doesn’t mean you go unchallenged, try to grasp this.
I could, as indeed you could, email the club direct and ask. They won’t tell you of course as these people are grown ups (give it a go you might like it) but you might get a hint with the row of laughing emojis at the end.'"
“Ill be on you” give your head a shake fella.
No less than 3 members of the forum backed up the same “rumour” with evidence but you still wanted to play high and mighty until you were provided with a link.
Accept it and move on.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"“Ill be on you” give your head a shake fella.
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Accept it and move on.'"
Oh, so it's a rumour now is it, was fact yesterday.
Still no link.
Forum members are not reliable sources of info, full stop. I take it you're not actually Timmy Smith? So why would any sane person take yours or anyone elses word on anything, pray tell.
Don't think it's my head that needs the shake.
You've been caught out and you don't like it. You're not alone on here sadly.
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Wasn't having a pop by the way, I suspect you do know a thing or two, but all sources have to be treated with suspicion on here.
No idea if true but North Queensland or Wakefield, no brainer really.
FWIW I suspect we showed nothing more than an interest, doesn't strike me a a Trinity signing good though he is.
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| Quote ="vastman"You start a rumour then you back it up, not my job. If you can’t back it up I’ll be on you, I really don’t care if it spoils your world view, being free to voice an opinion doesn’t mean you go unchallenged, try to grasp this.
I could, as indeed you could, email the club direct and ask. They won’t tell you of course as these people are grown ups (give it a go you might like it) but you might get a hint with the row of laughing emojis at the end.'"
I don't care about the rumour like you do Vasty. Your appalling tone towards others is what bothers me. Demanding a link when you have already been given the info suggests you think your better than everyone else.
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