Think that's a bit unfair on Kopczak, he did ok in a poor performance and was at least running onto the ball hard, albeit he was repeatedly greeted with very strong defence. The problem was rather than mix it up and sometimes throw it wide on the 2nd and 3rd tackle to give them something to think about and make it harder for them to steamroller us in the middle, we just played the same way over and over and over and over and over again and made it easy for them to smash us up front.

Don’t get me wrong, normally I like Koppy, And personally I think he’s been head and shoulders above any of our other front rowers since he came, but barely did he or Green take it up in first half. Fifita and Battye did, but the game was all but gone, by the time they came on.

Sorry, for me, as a unit, the front row were very poor tonight.

The backs ran it in with effort, and Rocky tried to make ground from impossible positions

How many sl clubs would stick by a coach with 5 wins in 33 and 1 of them agsinst a team no longer in sl....not many if any

Saying that i for 1 minute dont think he going anywhere and will lead us at the start of next season.it dont matter what ithink or any of you think he will be here so on that i will support him while he us our coach yes i am worried about next season but i would be ino matter who the coach with the financial situation.lets hope we can get some good honest players in and to be fair rid of our big earners out like fifita(not done owt since he signed a contract) and johnstone (think where holding him back now)

Why would a decent coach want to join a club who have sold their better players and replaced them with honest pros (which means boring) and have performed so badly.
We all know Chester is going nowhere because how many other clubs would put up with 5 wins out of 31, he knows when he is onto a good thing. It is the supporters who are the ones who must suck up these displays and keep paying the money and also take the blame for the club being unable to pay up to the maximum salary cap.
I hope you are all appreciative that the club haven’t sacked us because of our inability to finance them with the money they require. It’s clearly not Chester’s fault because of what he has to work with it is clearly ours and has Carter said we should cut him some slack.

I think it’s more than just the coach, though there needs to be fresh ideas in that department too for 2021.

For me we are carrying players who have been very good for us over the years but are no longer up to the standard required (most through age).

If I was been ruthless I would target these issues as I think there would be a huge difference given the right players.

1. Organising half - blatantly obvious! Though to be fair I think a complete overhaul would be welcome here. I’d also take Albert Kelly as a 6 too.

2. Desperately need a new quality 9 who can expose the quick play of balls. Wood is almost 32 and his distribution has been poor. Other Wood is fine but he’s a bench 9 for me.

3. Ageing forwards and Front row - Kopzack, Green, Tangata, Ashurst need shipping out imo and replacing with 2 quality props.

4. A full back who can join the line and create the overlap much like ratchford, coote, Tomkins. I’d actually settle for a Hampshire at full back long term.

Brutal but i think there needs to be some big changes in playing squad.

Having just read Chester’s interview he takes no blame it is all the players. The club is bringing forward a playing review to this morning which will include those still under and out of contract. It does not however look into the coaching. We have played various players over the season and a half and yet the performances appear to continue to stagnate. The only fixture during all these are Chester and his coaching set up therefore that would be a good place to start.
I think what we will get to keep him in place is various players being asked to leave and based on his recent recruitment strategy replayed by those in the thirties with an injury record.

Who did we sell?

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I’d like to know where we are going to find the money to pay off all these on-contract players (the ones he signed) that he now wants to replace. Good luck with that.

And i also think he is way off with with his summation. I didn’t see a team for the most part not trying, not putting in effort. I saw a team so low on ideas and so poorly structured both in attack and defence that their efforts were going to lead to nothing bit demoralisation. Chester really is going to take any personal responsibility is he?

Boris Johnson takes more personal blame for failings than Chester does

It’s utterly ridiculous for Chester to blame the players when his own failings are so blatantly obvious for all to see. Whoever we played in the pack last night was on a hiding to nothing, we all knew Saints would come out firing so to play one up rugby against them simply meant whoever took it in would get battered. Half backs were anonymous. No attempts at subtlety. Predictable and played straight into Saints hands. And even if he didn’t see that coming after 5 minutes it was perfectly obvious what they were doing yet no changes in tactic were made.

How come a coach can take over a decent squad and 5 years later have a squad with no structure, no attacking ideas from your 6,7, and 9 apart from 5 drives and a kick .A defence that are poor on there line.,and giving teams walk in trys on the wing.Then after the match the coach says after the match we are not good enough.Yet this is the squad he as built if you buy cheap you get cheep

We play Huddersfield next week by which time we should have the majority of his squad to select from. I wonder how many on here expect us to win or do we anticipate the usual performances just with different players. I also wonder with his constant criticism of others how many of the current team would relish the opportunity to join another club, just to get away from the constant negativity. I have not read or heard any other clubs constantly bemoan the lack of funds but for us it is the fallback position for all our woes. The obvious comparison is Salford and look what they have done.

CCs coaching ability has always been in question, does he actually coach the squad or let the players play off the cuff. MC will be unlikely to change the coach because he realises that he probably couldnt tell another coach that spending will be put back to what it was 3 years ago without a rumpus. The result is CCs coaching ability takes a back seat.
Trinity fans have become price conditioned without having all the facts to hand making MCs announcements palatable. The club s made fantastic strides over the last couple of years but all that will be lost without a re think and change in direction.

Huddersfield are about our level, Obviously Sezer apart. If we can't at least compete with our full squad out then I don't know where we go from there. The team is absolutely shot on confidence they look like they've been kidnapped and forced to go and play for Wakefield. Mentioning Salford which seems to be the benchmark for a low tier club like ourselves. We went there in March and won with a solid defensive performance with some good attack. What did Chester do? Meddle with that team. Again.

We can only hope and pray that the entire coaching staff are included !

Would you trust Me Chester and his backroom staff especially with are so called conditioner to build a team to compete in SL I would not.Think is signings this season as proved how far he is out of is depth.there was no need for panic buying .Just needed quality scrum half and hooker and we would have survived.

Survive what exactly???

I don’t know, what are your credentials?

I have no doubt that CC is technically a good coach, he has proved that in the past despite some people conveniently forgetting that.

However he now seems totally unable to get his message across to the players unless you believe he actually wants than to play like that.

It’s sad but once the above happens the coach is a spent force and needs to go, fair or not.

I suppose if you stuck with CC he might eventually turn things around but how much damage will have been done by then.

We just can’t risk it imho

Sorry BarnsleyGull should have put compete,

Sack the lot ,soft ,heartless.surrender

Vasty This simply cannot go on, I feel that we are in a downward spiral and sleepwalking in the abyss. The way I see it is we have no hope for the future unless there is a complete restructuring of the rugby side of things. We have drifted along for the last few years with imo not one player improving and the team going backwards. Everything needs looking at the pre season, the fitness levels, no excuse here we might not be the most talented but can be the strongest and fittest. Our style of play needs changing our structure our work effic, our determination, our defence, no stone should be left unturned. I don’t see Chester as the man to oversea this he’s had chance after chance to change things but hasn’t or just plain stubbornly he won’t he simply does not see and identify what we need.
Let’s take a look at the players, have we got bad players, have we players not trying or giving up, I wouldn’t say so but we are a complete mess all over the place.
Why when we have the lightest back line in senior, Walker, jowitt, lynn, tj, rocky expect them to run the ball from their own line and get battered, I don’t care if it’s the modern game if they can’t make ground get the forwards back behind the ball and clear the danger, the backs are game enough but what’s the point, the pack only play 20 mins each half hold your hands up and go your job. We can’t make enough ground we’ve only one kicker atm rocky and he’s been left with charging defences and 70 yard kicks.
The attack is so predictable and I take on board your thoughts on Tom but he won’t get any space unless the pack create him some, most of the breaks last year from rocky, bill or Tom we’re off the cuff opportunism and not created. We play with split half’s one left one right, we go one side or the other but it’s so easy and slow the defence just need to stand their ground.
Defensively we are simply awful and our line defence hasn’t improved in years.
These players are capable of so much more than this, ive seen it and we’ve all seen it but at the moment we’re a million miles off.
Chester just looks like a depressed man to me, his recent comments of accusing players of moving out of the way and not trying and playing for their jobs a week after he said they were great just smacks of someone not willing to be accountable for his actions, not once as he said I know what’s wrong il change this.
I notice the Sam Williams comments on Here il say this unless issues are sorted he won’t make the slightest bit of difference, as we simply can’t get any field position.
Recruitment as been terrible buying players like gigot, Atkins, brough and others who are no better than we have. We need some forwards some grafters who are going to get us moving, I like josh wood he’s a full commitment give it all but what do you do with him he offers nothing going forward and his passing is loopy and slow but he can bang.
I have no faith in the people at the top to make the correct decisions so it will continue, why I have no idea

Never seen pathetic performance like tonight a set of forwardas absoloughtly hammered by saints a threequaterlind made to look useless

our coach is more interested in getting 30 odd year old props passing round the back instead of charging it up like they have all their lives

I think Carter will probably give Chester the first 6 or 7 games of next season and if we're still getting beat every week he'll be gone. I can understand the reluctance to sack him in the current climate with what's gone on and the fact there is no relegation but I've got to say I'm not confident we will have the personnel in the playing staff or the coaching to turn it around so drastically in a pre-season. I can but hope. Not sure what the market for players will be like either considering the economic enviornment. Be interesting to see what happens now until January.