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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Excellent news, I Hope no one on here berates any player for not agreeing to new pay rates. We all have to do whatever seems right for ourselves and family. Roll on Monday morning, get the players together and renew the team spirit.'"
Out of curiosity would you sit and watch your work mates and friends all take the same pay cut to secure your employment, complain about, then take your family on holiday?
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| Quote ="LG83"Out of curiosity would you sit and watch your work mates and friends all take the same pay cut to secure your employment, complain about, then take your family on holiday?'"
I’m retired now, worked until I was 67, worked mostly in engineering, different rates of pay for worker on the same shop floor, yes, at times had to take pay cuts rather than redundancy, even then I went through 3 redundancy during 52 working years. As I’ve already said, each individual has to do whats best for themselves, doesn’t mean they like doing it. Some will find “what goes round, comes around”.
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| Just a “yes or no” in the situation I described would do
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| Quote ="LG83"Just a “yes or no” in the situation I described would do'"
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| Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
That's nowt to do with wage cuts - that's contracts for 2021.
Those names are those whose contracts expire this term.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
[uSame as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.[/u
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
Well why buy them then?
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| Quote ="LG83"Out of curiosity would you sit and watch your work mates and friends all take the same pay cut to secure your employment, complain about, then take your family on holiday?'"
Point made but it does not mean a reduction in pay results in not taking a holiday.
I am sure in such a scenario the employer or employees will have some influence on how things progress.
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| How you spend your money is no ones business.
You don't know whether
1) they actually took a holiday
2) who paid for the holiday
3) whether it was paid for before reductions were agreed
4) how much it cost
So despite wanting to cause outrage it is no one's business but the individual involved.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
I have a quick look at online P&C Express. There’s a couple of articles mostly by Powell, but couldn’t find anything re new ground and Rhino’s problem, can you give any details, thanks.
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| [urlhttps://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/michael-shenton-still-planning-dream-super-league-grand-finale-castleford-tigers-2910765[/url
Think this is the article re: Shenton. Doesn’t really say much for me that we haven’t all worked out. Rhinos have invested hugely in ground improvements and they can’t use the hospitality areas to pay for it.
Worried as I am about our Financial future it seems all clubs have their challenges
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
Well that’s a bit more than 3 isn’t it! I’d prefer to believe MC than that rag. You can minus Kershaw so that makes two, I think we can survive for now.
Of note the only players on that list who you would call must keeps is BJB at a pinch. Kirmo is virtually part time anyway whilst Heaze is purely potential at present. Atkins and Koppy offer experience but both are ageing fast. To have satisfied the rest is a huge achievement and well done to all.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
Well that’s a bit more than 3 isn’t it! I’d prefer to believe MC than that rag. You can minus Kershaw so that makes two, I think we can survive for now.
Of note the only players on that list who you would call must keeps is BJB at a pinch. Kirmo is virtually part time anyway whilst Heaze is purely potential at present. Atkins and Koppy offer experience but both are ageing fast. To have satisfied the rest is a huge achievement and well done to all.
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"[urlhttps://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/michael-shenton-still-planning-dream-super-league-grand-finale-castleford-tigers-2910765[/url
Think this is the article re: Shenton. Doesn’t really say much for me that we haven’t all worked out. Rhinos have invested hugely in ground improvements and they can’t use the hospitality areas to pay for it.
Worried as I am about our Financial future it seems all clubs have their challenges'"
Thanks for the link, it doesn’t say as much as I’d hoped. Sadly I fear all the hard work these past few years by both MC, JM, and many others (swag, etc), will now be put on ice for the immediate future. I know the government plan massive building schemes, but who’s going to put funding into private projects. But then again, I’m a glass half empty guy.
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| Well, topping up your glass DS, both MC and JM stated on the Q and A that they as satisfied as they can be, given the circumstances, that the club will come out of this in a good position compared to some other clubs, so hopefully progress on the stadium can still be made
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Wakefield Express reporting that Lee Kershaw has rejected an offer (I know), Ryan Atkins, Titus Gawze, BJB, Danny Kirmond, and Craig Kopczak not yet decided. No offers made to Brough or King.
Same as you I take the Wakey Express and the Pont and Cas with a pinch of salt.
Worth checking out Shenny's article in Pont + Cas though regarding new grounds and the problems the Rhino's have.'"
Out of that list I think ( if genuine) that Danny Kirmond is the biggest surprise to me. Excellent Club man and all that.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Out of that list I think ( if genuine) that Danny Kirmond is the biggest surprise to me. Excellent Club man and all that.'"
Nothing to with wages this is contract offers etc.
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| These are not players holding out but the list of those out of contract with the club to decide if they wish to offer them a contract. With regards the wages we apparently have now agreed with Fifita but a week too late to start training. This is now 31 players, we will have to see who the two remaining players are.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Nothing to with wages this is contract offers etc.'"
I recognise that RWB, but the fact that if he's rejected an offer, because of his allegiance to Trinity over the years, I'm surprised that he turned it down.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I recognise that RWB, but the fact that if he's rejected an offer, because of his allegiance to Trinity over the years, I'm surprised that he turned it down.'"
I read it no offer has been made as yet but I might be wrong
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| Quote ="Redscat"I recognise that RWB, but the fact that if he's rejected an offer, because of his allegiance to Trinity over the years, I'm surprised that he turned it down.'"
Says not yet decided. You know, as in weighing up his health vs carrying on playing type things maybe?
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I read it no loffer has been made as yet but I might be wrong'"
That's how I read it too.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Says not yet decided. You know, as in weighing up his health vs carrying on playing type things maybe?'"
That's more likely to be the situation.
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| Whichever way you view it this is good news as far as I can tell.
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