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| The quote is from the man from Handons not MC . Don't build up hopes it'll just pizz you off when it all falls apart. Nothing will happen with our venture until the 5 towns development happens and that seems to be progressing really well, not.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"The quote is from the man from Handons not MC . Don't build up hopes it'll just pizz you off when it all falls apart. Nothing will happen with our venture until the 5 towns development happens and that seems to be progressing really well, =#FF0000not.'"
You obviously haven't read the Pont + Cas then!
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| They've released new (?) plans for a shopping/retail park just off Junction 32/freeport with the Cas ground sitting inside in. But as we know too well, doesn't matter how many new plans or pretty images and press releases get put out it doesn't make it any more real than ours, not yet anyway. As with our ground - I'll believe it when I see it
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| The video for Axiom is not aimed at the public, it's aimed at commercial partners. It's essentially a plea/an advert publicising the opportunity...it's a desperate measure, for a hugely underfunded project.
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| Quote ="dboy"The video for Axiom is not aimed at the public, it's aimed at commercial partners. It's essentially a plea/an advert publicising the opportunity...it's a desperate measure, for a hugely underfunded project.'"
Although there is little doubt that ourselves and Cas need to improve their grounds/ move to new ones, it would be great to go back to the times when emphasis was put on team performance, rather than counting plastic seats.
The ongoing stadium issues, set Cas and Trinity as mortal enemies, when it appeared for a long time that it would be either/or and one club would be consigned to The Championship (which may well have suited the agenda of The RFL).
Yet, since the original million pound game, both clubs seem to have moved on and it's time that we all got back to talking about Rugby League.
Cas are our closest rival and although they play in an outdated stadium, I'd rather watch Trinity play Cas darn t'lane than go to the John Smiths Stadium (or Headingley) and a home game trumps any of them, especially if we win
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| Quote ="dboy"The video for Axiom is not aimed at the public, it's aimed at commercial partners. It's essentially a plea/an advert publicising the opportunity...it's a desperate measure, for a hugely underfunded project.'"
Absolutely 100% correct, also Fromm what I've heard the topsoil and coal extraction is going to take longer and cost more than original estimates someven the 2021 date is extremely optimistic
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| Is this whole Axiom thing (which will include Cas's new stadium) all part of a grand Box/Jeffries plan for Assoleford to become the new"lead" town of WAKEFIELD MDC????
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| I can see why after so many false dawns most still don't believe it but I'm more convinced than ever that as they say work will start this year. There is a lad on the Cas forum who would argue with any one that it would not happen. That was until a couple of weeks ago when their boss called them all in and said they would be setting on new staff as they had got a contract for work up there and would be starting soon. There were mistakes in the Pont + Cas article especially the bit about removing the over head power line. it was actually under ground. Once again I don't blame any one for being doubters but also as I've said before we'll have to wait and see.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I can see why after so many false dawns most still don't believe it but I'm more convinced than ever that as they say work will start this year. There is a lad on the Cas forum who would argue with any one that it would not happen. That was until a couple of weeks ago when their boss called them all in and said they would be setting on new staff as they had got a contract for work up there and would be starting soon. There were mistakes in the Pont + Cas article especially the bit about removing the over head power line. it was actually under ground. Once again I don't blame any one for being doubters but also as I've said before we'll have to wait and see.'"
I think you are getting giddy over nothing.
The road works and enabling may well start this year, but there won't be a filled out retail complex built and certainly not a stadium, any time soon.
There is no commitment from the developer to build a stadium at any given trigger point. Until they've balanced the books on the retail build, there'll be no stadium. And with only 4 statements of interest to date...
Still, Box will make sure Wakey don't progress their project, while ever the Cas project is up in the air...
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| Sorry to be rude, but what's happening with ya ground now? Haven't seen any update for a while?
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| Quote '" Quote ="RickyF1"Sorry to be rude, but what's happening with ya ground now? Haven't seen any update for a while?'"
THe lack of update tells you everything
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"THe lack of update tells you everything'"
Sorry to hear that. Was hoping you was getting summert sorted.
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| Quote ="RickyF1"Sorry to hear that. Was hoping you was getting summert sorted.'"
On the basis that MC has been very vocal about inactivity in the past, I take the lack of updates as a positive that things are going on behind the scenes.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"On the basis that MC has been very vocal about inactivity in the past, I take the lack of updates as a positive that things are going on behind the scenes.'"
Hate to be that guy but seen as MC was on RL on RY about 2 weeks ago, he got asked the stadium question and he said he hasn't received any information from 88m to look over yet, that was promised for the end of January, so he couldn't say any more than that.
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| Quote ="dboy"I think you are getting giddy over nothing.
The road works and enabling may well start this year, but there won't be a filled out retail complex built and certainly not a stadium, any time soon.
There is no commitment from the developer to build a stadium at any given trigger point. Until they've balanced the books on the retail build, there'll be no stadium. =#FF0000And with only 4 statements of interest to date...
Still, Box will make sure Wakey don't progress their project, while ever the Cas project is up in the air...'"
With respect they are not statements of interest, the article clearly states they are committed. Next time you drive past have a look at the new flag poles there, each one represents a brand that has signed up to occupy a plot.
Fair enough to you the article doesn't actually mention a trigger point but its common knowledge that the stadium has to be built first. Isn't that what Box was referring to when he alluded to getting you the same perfect deal that we have?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"With respect they are not statements of interest, the article clearly states they are committed. Next time you drive past have a look at the new flag poles there, each one represents a brand that has signed up to occupy a plot.
Fair enough to you the article doesn't actually mention a trigger point but its common knowledge that the stadium has to be built first. Isn't that what Box was referring to when he alluded to getting you the same perfect deal that we have?'"
There might not be a trigger point in the s106 and it does state that the stadium has to be built first but don't think that that means there isn't a trigger point - the development needs to be commercially viable before any developer would build a £12M stadium.
Four committed retailers does not make it a viable development at this stage.
I'm not having a go, and I hope you do get your stadium but experience has told us that what developers say and do are very different. They're trying to be positive as that will help attract other retailers too but you're a way off that yet (in my opinion).
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| Don't they need ten tenants signed up before construction starts or have I dreamt that newgroundb4wakey?
It's all irrelevant regarding construction, they've apparently put up 15 flag poles today so alls well.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Don't they need ten tenants signed up before construction starts or have I dreamt that newgroundb4wakey?
It's all irrelevant regarding construction, they've apparently put up 15 flag poles today so alls well.
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Did they recycle the sign from next to the train station at Xscape as that would be a definite notice of intention
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| Quote ="Fordy"There might not be a trigger point in the s106 and it does state that the stadium has to be built first but don't think that that means there isn't a trigger point - the development needs to be commercially viable before any developer would build a £12M stadium.
Four committed retailers does not make it a viable development at this stage.
I'm not having a go, and I hope you do get your stadium but experience has told us that what developers say and do are very different. They're trying to be positive as that will help attract other retailers too but you're a way off that yet (in my opinion).'"
Thanks Fordy, thats a very considered and honest post. I do realise how much you've all gone through and thats why I hope I don't seem over confident without reason and I only usually reply to people doubting it or putting false info on here about it. Although yours has dragged on for an eternity its easy to lose track of how long ours has gone on for and I think thats why some facts get forgotten or blurred over.
I'm fairly sure if I sifted through I could find the condition that says building of the retail can start but none can be occupied or trading until the stadium is handed over. This would indeed seem to be the perfect solution but leaves us open to the same that has happened to you so we are all hoping Lateral, Axiom, and GMI are a little more honourable than Yorkcourt. As far as I know there were supposed to be 20 flagpoles going up each with the logo of a company that has already committed.
For what its worth I think I'm about as neutral as it gets as I'm sure I've stated more than once on here that I'd prefer for Cas to stay at revamped Wheldon Road and Trin to stay at a revamped Belle Vue. We'll just have to wait and see.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Did they recycle the sign from next to the train station at Xscape as that would be a definite notice of intention
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Grandkids have been using the said sign as a sledge these last few days but it will be going on E Bay as soon as our new stadium is completed. Thats if E Bay still exists by then.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Don't they need ten tenants signed up before construction starts or have I dreamt that newgroundb4wakey?
It's all irrelevant regarding construction, they've apparently put up 15 flag poles today so alls well.
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How did you manage to count past 12?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"How did you manage to count past 12?
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Because I have toes.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"icon_lol.gif So that was you in the flip flops, hard or what.
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