Well, no, I was making the point that nobody knows - except those involved in the process - how much money we have or indeed how much we are short by.

It may be a case we actually have the full amount of money but we don't have the access to it in the immediacy.

I have no idea what the make-up of the stadium will be and I'm assuming that bridge will be crossed when it comes to it.

In an ideal world it would be a 50:50 split but I've got a feeling we'll be your landlords. You'll retain all gameday profits and then pay us rent agreed by both parties.

However, TRB's comments in the WE this morning suggest that even if GH was recommended, Wakefield would reject to move there. I wonder if that position has changed since?

vastman

I think you will find the slippy sir Rodney has been chasing this all along, on the pretense that it will be short term.
keep trusting him, it makes cas stadium more likely with that snake on your team

seems to me that the only logical step is to share ground.
then after franchise ground will have one team in SL and one in the championship.

Well said!, couldn't agree more! Top post. What is more important, the club or where that club plays? To many (both Cas & Wakey) it seems to be the latter. Let's get a groundshare sorted that saves both clubs and is the most economical option. It always seemed silly to have two stadiums a few miles apart, one of which will be empty every other week!!

Mods is this post acceptable?

What justification is there for this personal attack on someone who to date has done nothing remotely dodgy.

I've never met Walker or know much about him or whether he is a good or bad man before the poodle stuff starts.

Well, it's not us wanting a groundshare either. Or we would have already done it, eh?

As for your traffic comment. One road is nowhere near Xscape. Road A is the one that links from J32 and onto the main road towards Xscape. The stadium is the 2nd exit off that first roundabout away from Xscape.

The 2nd road comes in the opposite direction from the new link road at Cutsyke and will go up and join the stadium road - it comes out nowhere near Xscape. Traffic will be limited, if any, from the stadium and as already mentioned a lot will walk from Glasshoughton, hop on the train from Cas station to G'houghton or catch that common invention called a bus. It will only be away fans that travel by car and those Cas fans from further afield and even then those living in Leeds can catch the train. Traffic won't be as bad as you're making it out to be.

It feels to me as if the council monkeys have the perfect excuse in the government cuts inplace to shaft us on Newmarket, and force a move to glasshoughton.
There recent track record for wasting cash in cas and the popularity of the excape/Freeport site suggests to me this is clearly the favoured site the wmdc.
I just hope that we don't really need them, and we can continue without there direct/indirect £2m.
Perhaps a statement from York court/Rodders regarding how we move forward in light of the councils statement, would give us a clearer view of where we are and more importantly how we move forward.
If the development is only going to be slowed down, and this is supported by the developer, then the club should state clearly our intention to groundshare short term.


At oakwell, if this is made clear, I cannot see our franchise being turned down as we will have ticked the boxs re stadia standards, and we also have the ground continuing in the, hopefully very short term background.
We then do not have to support the glasshoughton project, or the proposed castleford groundshare there, as they seem keen to at the moment.
Where that them leaves them??????

G'houghton will go ahead and be built. But just phased - I think that's the sticking point financially. We have enough to go it alone and build some structure but not enough to complete the entire stadium. With Wakefield on board the likelihood is that the whole complex will be sorted.

Completely agree.

ok here my guess at the result of the feasilbility study.

Glasshoughton - infastructure good, buildable in timnescale long term sustainability and payback to investors very weak recommendation not long term feasible.
Land -
Newmarket - not deliverable in timescale so no guarentee of SL franchise(s), infastructure issues and environmental issues, long term feasibility to investors dependant on take up of retail units etc etc, recomendation not deliverable in timescale do not proceed.

If we fail to get a verdict in favour of Newmarket then i feel this is the line the club and Swag will take.

If we have a fall back at oakwell (please someone confirm we have!!!!) then there is no need for us to support glasshoughton.
Fully, I really cannot see anyone at the club voting for it, so I think you may well be in it on your own, but the clocks ticks ever quicker, you may need to think about a plan b also?

Good post, and IMO a real option.

If we don't agree to Glasshoughton then politically it would be very difficult even for a devious sod like Box to dump Trinity and push Glasshoughton. We are as entitled to backing as much as Cas. Oakwell is a short term option IMHO (no actual idea of cost etc) that would easily buy us another franchise whilst we continue with the Newmarket scheme. Could Cas pull the same rabbit out of the hat? Check the games by laws, they can't.



NOTE: I have no idea if this is happening, just following Kinsleys logic.

You could not afford to survive at Oakwell. You would lose crowd numbers, your identity, ground related income streams.

And as a side note, have you asked Barnsley about this yet? Do they get a say in it.

Its no worse than some of the stuff i've seen posted about RW.

That said any personal attacks stop at this point for all posters.

God i hope you dont work in a hospice!

Would Barnsley want you there? Also, would the RFL see this is a quick attempt to exploit another franchise and disallow it. I feel pushing that option would be futile.

Won't wash at franchise, you are kidding yourself IMHO. With that logic you could say BV is phased! You like us promised SL a SL standard stadium by 2012. You will not have one whilst Widnes have and if we moved to Oakwell we would. Work it out, your plan won't work.

Again I'm just following Kinsleys logic.

We got away with using Oakwell last time, i can not see it working again.

Would Barnsley allow it?

Would the RFL allow it?

Would the Wakey fans travel in numbers to make the venture viable?

Having said that Im sure the RFL will go for it as long as you call yourselves Barnsley Bears. Cos I do not think they will buy a Wakefield franchise playing in Barnsley. And like I said before Im not sure your business plan would stack up and that is more important in any franchise application.

Oh she's back!!
Whatever we would lose would be a short term loss, losing SL licence would be a long term loss.
Hopefully they have been consulted, and I'm sure they would approve a short term tennant, as they're possibly as strapped as most other sports clubs.
I hope I have in some way eased your worries for us!

What is our business plan, and what are it's failings, please!

Are our Cas contributors forgetting that their road infrastructure requires a compulsory purchase order funded by the council!

Without that nothing is getting built for the Tigers at GH

For me this seems to be going only one way at the moment and thats ground share followed soon by a merger between the 2 clubs. I cant honestly see the point in all the bickering between us and cas fans anymore - after 27 pages no-one is getting anywhere and all people have is rumours and bull.

Anyway,
If we were to merge I dont think I could personally feel passionate about a team that didnt have wakefield in it. cas fans will say the same the other way round. Im 50/50 whether I could support a merged team with a name that didnt have either cas or wakey in it. I think I would go watch but dont think I would feel the same if it wasnt wakey.

I do feel however WMDC should build a stadium for the city of wakefield and the people of wakefield. Again going back to an earlier post what other leisure facilities does wakefield have apart from lightwaves and thornes park?? Its a sad state of affairs for generations to come if a stadium in wakefield wasnt built regardless of whether glasshoughton gets the go-ahead or not. There is a bigger picture here not just for rugby but for everyone in wakefield to have a facility to be proud of and for future generations to use. This alone will surely have big implications on the councils review.

Time will only tell but im past the stage of getting angry and pi**ed off now.