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| Quote ="Sandal Cat":326v66k1I don't think there is any risk that there will not be a team next season. The main uncertainty we have is a franchise for 2012 which is not helping recruitment nor finding new owners I guess.
October 22nd is the key to all this and following the receipt of OPP I think we will have more certainty and can look forward. We'll just have to put up with the crap until then.'" I don't think there is any risk that there will not be a team next season. The main uncertainty we have is a franchise for 2012 which is not helping recruitment nor finding new owners I guess.
Yarp..! we need nod for new stadium and to get a franchis, once we have got them we can start building our team, and the back room staff....
So until then I will sit back chew my nails and wait
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| Quote ="TRB"I wish people would realise the damage they are doing to the club by NOT buying a season ticket. I appreciate that times are hard (I changed job and lost about 25% of my salary this year - not by choice I might add), but the club can get out of the current hole, or could certainly be helped along the way, if people bought their ST's.
=#FF0000Me too although I took a 50% cut 2 year ago.
All I would say is that failure to buy ST's, could cause the club more of the very trouble we are concerned about right now. If you don't want to help the club,
fair enough, but please think twice about criticising something that you are not prepared to assist with, unless it suits.
=#FF0000Where have I criticized, all I'm saying is I want to see the goods before I buy.
Oh, and the username may require an update!
=#FF0000Oh, it's current and up to date.
I know there is a lot that could be better, but we are where we are and we'll be better pulling in the same direction.
=#FF0000Very true, but its a two way thing you know.
Together we are Stronger!'"
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"neither cas or salford have made quality signings. This is what i feel Kear is talking about'"
Richie Mathers not quality after the season he has had so far???
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| Quote ="PopTart"It was only two weeks ago we were all posting who we wanted to leave.
Blanche Gleeson and Blaymire came hi on the list (still behind Cooke obviously)
Now that has happened, we are saying they are leaving because of Kear.
Let's just have one conspiracy theory at a time please.'"
Indeed it's laughable in one breath Blanch and Gleeson have been shocking all season get rid, next breath I can't believe we are letting Blanch and Gleeson go something must be wrong!
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| This is my first post and by my own admission I am your typical floating fan. Cricket / holiday commitments will mean i never get a season ticket. Think we will always attract the 2-3000 'rose tinted mob' to buy a season ticket.
My last game was in catalan, a typicial 'defeat from the jaws of victory display' that summed up this whole shambles of a team/squad/backroom/staff/and owners. We were busy throwing away a lead to a team that hadn't won in about 8 and went on to finish bottom...... while our head coach was being interviewed by the opposition.
Before you start berating the die hards - Think about the likes of me and the other 5k like me... what will the close season bring ? Renewed optimism, niche signings, new ground OR staving off tax bills at the 11th hour, bottom of the barrel 'project signings' and inertia that is WTW.
Without a new owner / head coach and about 4 class players then cant see me gracing belle vue much above twice next year. (in recent seasons has been nearer 8 or 10).
Our group of 8 or so will still go to Spain next year.. but cant see more than two hauling their ass over the french border... more sangria anyone !
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| We are all just going to have to wait and see regarding players coming in. Even if we don't get the amount of players in that we are after may not be the worst thing in the world because it means we can blood some of the youngsters who look prmising such as Wildie, Cowling, Davey and Annakin? (Is he still ate the club? Looked promising a coupple of years ago).
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| Quote ="TRB"[uI wish people would realise the damage they are doing to the club by NOT buying a season ticket.[/u but the club can get out of the current hole, or could certainly be helped along the way, if people bought their ST's.
All I would say is that failure to buy ST's, could cause the club more of the very trouble we are concerned about right now. If you don't want to help the club,
fair enough, but please think twice about criticising something that you are not prepared to assist with, unless it suits.
Oh, and the username may require an update!
I know there is a lot that could be better, but we are where we are and we'll be better pulling in the same direction.'"
Does the club realise the damage they themselves are causing by saying nothing about our recruitment which according to Mr Kear was concluded some weeks ago. Please explain to me in simple terms why no announcement has been made with regard to this issue, perhaps there might be a late surprise half back signing from Aus, which is understandable if the club wish to keep that part quiet but as for the rest of it there should be no reason why the FANS of the club should not be kept imformed if as you quite rightly say they need our backing, as far as the club and the players go I don't do criticism on here but thanks for reminding me that its not the done thing, and fwiw I will be getting a new ST irrespective of your thoughts on the matter but whether I am being petty or not I will get one in my own time just like the club will imform us of their recruitment when they are ready.
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"neither cas or salford have made quality signings. This is what i feel Kear is talking about'"
Aye? Patten isn't quality? IMO for sides like us, Mathers is, Patten is and I'd say V.Anderson is.
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"Aye? Patten isn't quality? IMO for sides like us, Mathers is, Patten is and I'd say V.Anderson is.'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"Does the club realise the damage they themselves are causing by saying nothing about our recruitment which according to Mr Kear was concluded some weeks ago. =#BF0040Please explain to me in simple terms why no announcement has been made with regard to this issue, perhaps there might be a late surprise half back signing from Aus, which is understandable if the club wish to keep that part quiet but as for the rest of it there should be no reason why the FANS of the club should not be kept imformed if as you quite rightly say they need our backing, as far as the club and the players go I don't do criticism on here but thanks for reminding me that its not the done thing, and fwiw I will be getting a new ST irrespective of your thoughts on the matter but whether I am being petty or not I will get one in my own time just like the club will imform us of their recruitment when they are ready.'"
I can't.
The only thing I can say is that my intention is to try to give the club the best possible chance of paying it's dues and having a little left towards new recruitments. It's chicken and egg time, only HMRC are strangling the chicken so there are few eggs appearing. If we don't pay - the club have no money - if they have no money then we can't pay bills and can't sign players. If we do pay.....
I am not, and have not, said that there is anything against being critical of the club - so please don't throw that one at me. I'm putting one side (an unpopular one at that) of the argument and you can put yours.
FWIW, I completely agree about the lack of information - and it frustrates the hell out of me as to why we continue to be so poor in that area! However, if WE are to have a positive effect on the club, then WE need as many people as possible to buy ST's.......
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| I can understand where everyone is coming from and there has been no one more peed off with the performances than me. I've hardly seen an away game the second half of the season I've been so brassed off but we are at a crossroads.
The next 8 weeks are the most crucial in the club's history. We have a winding up order, a search for new owners/investors and an important planning decision on 22nd October. If we fail in this we will have no club to support but if all falls into place I think we will have a great deal to look forward to.
For what its worth I'm confident that everything will fall into place - not like me I know being a pessimist by nature but I really do believe it will all come together. So much so that this afternoon I not only renewed my "season ticket/hospitality package" but also my sponsorship for next season.
I know things are difficult and we have not been entertained this season but the Club needs us all now more than ever if we are to survive these difficult few weeks. I urge as many of you as possible to renew your tickets, sponsorship or whatever you do because without us the fans there will be no club.
Better times are just around the corner - I genuinely believe that.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"I can understand where everyone is coming from and there has been no one more peed off with the performances than me. I've hardly seen an away game the second half of the season I've been so brassed off but we are at a crossroads.
The next 8 weeks are the most crucial in the club's history. We have a winding up order, a search for new owners/investors and an important planning decision on 22nd October. If we fail in this we will have no club to support but if all falls into place I think we will have a great deal to look forward to.
For what its worth I'm confident that everything will fall into place - not like me I know being a pessimist by nature but I really do believe it will all come together. So much so that this afternoon I not only renewed my "season ticket/hospitality package" but also my sponsorship for next season.
I know things are difficult and we have not been entertained this season but the Club needs us all now more than ever if we are to survive these difficult few weeks. I urge as many of you as possible to renew your tickets, sponsorship or whatever you do because without us the fans there will be no club.
Better times are just around the corner - I genuinely believe that.'"
I agree entirly with everything that you said and i must admit i also share your optimism.
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| The club may well need us, but it doesn't behave like it does; it continues to run WTW into the ground and to treat supporters like idiots and mugs, only to expect us to cough up for season tickets now so it can pay yet another tax bill that hasn't been planned for.
If I renew my ST, I'm afraid it'll be when I'm good and ready; no amount of rhetoric will persuade me otherwise. What would persuade me is some meaningful, honest updates from the club about the crucial issues that we're facing right now, but for some reason they seem incapable of doing that.
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| i hear tommy lee is on his way to you after being released by crusaders.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"i hear tommy lee is on his way to you after being released by crusaders.'"
Really? Where did you hear that? That is new information do you have insider knowledge?
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| Sandal Cat, is it a renewed player sponsorship? ie has he re-signed?
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| glad sandal cat has renewed his player sponsorship does the player know his past record in this area
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"glad sandal cat has renewed his player sponsorship does the player know his past record in this area'"
Who is it that Sandal Cat is sponsering?
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Who is it that Sandal Cat is sponsering?'"
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| Quote ="chapster"tell me its penny please please please!'" we don't have a penny
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"I can understand where everyone is coming from and there has been no one more peed off with the performances than me. I've hardly seen an away game the second half of the season I've been so brassed off but we are at a crossroads.
The next 8 weeks are the most crucial in the club's history. We have a winding up order, a search for new owners/investors and an important planning decision on 22nd October. If we fail in this we will have no club to support but if all falls into place I think we will have a great deal to look forward to.
For what its worth I'm confident that everything will fall into place - not like me I know being a pessimist by nature but I really do believe it will all come together. So much so that this afternoon I not only renewed my "season ticket/hospitality package" but also my sponsorship for next season.
=#FF0000I know things are difficult and we have not been entertained this season but the Club needs us all now more than ever if we are to survive these difficult few weeks. I urge as many of you as possible to renew your tickets, sponsorship or whatever you do because without us the fans there will be no club.
Better times are just around the corner - I genuinely believe that.'"
Thats the bottom line, help now and give the club a lifeline or play a part in the demise of our club, its that simple. No murky grey bits just black and white.
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| Quote ="snowie"we don't have a penny
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heard sandal cat has sponsored the toilet lighbulbs,medium shirts, attacking flair and defensive coordination!
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| Quote ="chapster"heard sandal cat has sponsored the toilet lighbulbs,medium shirts, attacking flair and defensive coordination!'" he'd be better of sponsoring the tax man on passed record he would go and leave us alone
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| Quote ="chapster"heard sandal cat has sponsored the toilet lighbulbs,medium shirts, attacking flair and defensive coordination!'"
Brilliant post
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| Quote ="snowie"he'd be better of sponsoring the tax man
on passed record he would go and leave us alone'"
snowie you are our leader!
sandal cat........off you go and sponsor hm inspector of customs, and while your at it get your name down for the NIMBYS too, and if you dont ill spil more beer over you in perpignian next time, and you know i can!!!
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