In a word - YES

Then that would be crazy. We have never done so well in the league under any other coach yes the rugby is dull but christ when did we become Manchester United/Tottenham 'we don't care about results we just want free flowing high quality rugby!' Bring back Harbin with Roe as assistant the rugby was cracking then!

What you appear to be saying is that JK deserves the praise for the 2 and a bit seasons of Brough, and the fantastic performances of Tronc in the first say 6 weeks are down to JK's astute transfer work,but when things go tits up its nothing to do with him? I'm sorry but in my opinion you can't have it both ways - if your responsible for player recruitment and you take the back slaps when it goes well you also carry the can when your signings go sour.

At the risk of a thread-drift and going over old ground, I thought Kear has overall control on rectuitment (both comings and goings) and is also on the board so surely he is at the very least partly to blame for one (2 if you count Broughy) of our prize assetts going for (next to) nothing?

simple question?

the answer on which i judge JK

did he really say " get me paul cooke and brough can go?"

IMO it would just highlight how poor the bottom half of the league is, if a team who has had 6 or 7 40+ points drubbings can finish in the top 8 - nothing to laud Kear for. Anyway, it ain't gonna happen so its irrelevant

yes its boring

Is it Kears fault we did the same kick off 7 times on the trot on Sunday? The same kick off that we do every single kick off every single week?

Is it Kears fault we have gone into many, many games this year with an unfathonable bench?

Is it Kears fault we seem completely clueless in defense down the flanks and seem to be unable to count up?

Is it Kears fault he wanted to jump ship and go to Catalans and probably Bradford?

Is it Kears fault we dont seem to be able to play second halfs on the rare occasions we get to half time and we are still in the game?

Is it Kears fault we have averaged 50 points conceded in the last 3 games?

Is it Kears fault we have played well twice since Easter?

Is it Kears fault we dont seem to be anywhere near as fit as we should be?

Is it Kears fault we have such dross as Gleeson, Blanch, Korkidas, Millard, Cook, Johnson etc all virtually guaranteed a starting shirt regardless of performance?

Is it Kears fault we that the only play Millard has in his armour is catching the high bomb but we average about 1 kick every 3 games or so for him to compete for?

Still, its much easier to hide behind things like "he cannot see into the future" when it doesn't work but heap the praise on him when it does...... It cuts both ways for me.

I am saying that Kear deserves praise for bringing quality players like Brough and Tronc to the club and deserves praise for keeping Brough pretty much on track for 2 seasons. If Kear was responsible for Brough leaving then yes that was a massive mistake but I wasn't aware that it was his decision. I thought the club were more forced into it by Brough refusing to sign a new contract. How much say does Kear have at board level?

Fair enough but even if he does go we'll find ourselves here again as we have with every coach in recent history. There is no miracle man out there who will make us top 8 material year on year on our budget. And don't give me the boring rugby stuff we've seen much worse over the years when fighting relegation and it was the fight that made it interesting not the rugby. Here's to Broadbent taking over and being sacked by May!

I honestly don't know how much sway he has although it seems a widespread view he has just about total control, maybe some of the more informed posters can enlighten us mear mortals..... I am more than happy to accept this is not the case if somebody knows for sure.

I can respect the viewpoint that he stays by default becuase there are no other options (even though I don't personally agree with it), but the view I cannot respect and have trouble accepting is the old "its not his fault" line and the "if it wasn't for him we wouldn't be here".

brilliant post

as time goes on im of the opinion that we should have built a team round broughy, paid him what he was on plus what we paid for newton.

as for not knowing he was broke well hello it was public knowledge 3 months before the season started, as was shudds intrest, so why not broker the move then and secure a replacement????

we never needed newton or for that matter jefferies if we had brough and morrison, with obst and latu at hooker, options would have been plentiful in attack and broughs defence was also very good.

so we replaced a player we could build a team around with with a fat useless git, a player we already had on loan, and a player who has played about 5 games in total, garbage business all round.

If he has total control over all comings and goings then fair enough he cannot complain about his lot but I have no evidence to suggest whether that is true or not.

I don't accept that there are no other options either but I don't trust Ted and co to appoint the right person for christ sake he wanted Lowes over Kear! Maybe Kear needs to appoint his own successor! I don't think people, and I'm certainly not, are saying it's not his fault just pointing out that not everything can be blamed on him and I do believe his record needs to be taken into account.

Furry muff. Agree reference Ted.

No doubt about that.


I'll accept that (if its true) but posters are still crying about Players, tronc/Brough going while under contract for FREE, now if they had let kear go how would that be different?

No idea but if he did then maybe i'm the one who's getting it all wrong.

simple, at the time the players were performing at the top of their game!

Publicly Kear didn't considered or suggested Cooke was a replacement for brough he was merely "someone available, who were we interested in" at that time. (maybe to take the pressure off)

However, Kear wouldnt have released Brough if we didnt have cooke.





Where's TRB ive seen him lurking about but not posting which Is slightly unusual.

well you know where i got that quote from, and i respect the source as i know you do.

sod it next seasons gonna be ace, back against the wall, sod everyone, pure trinity magic, we never were any good at being good!

roll on 2011!

So i'm right then everythings Cooks fault



Don't know squire.

Yeah right.

the only way is up etc etc

I have no answer to that, its seems i have no idea at all and should never have tried to offer any explanation for the seasons ups and downs, its quite cleary all black and white.

Grow up Al.

Its a forum for discussion......

So if we did not need Jeffries who were you thinking of playing at stand off then?