Just can't see tonight making enough of a difference. If we get 5 thousand members, great. But other clubs have already got that so its not going to turn any rfl heads. And as AG said himself bv still won't hit the criteria even with the work. Closer yes but its still a fail along with the others. Superleague ain't getting expanded, the moneys not there. So one team is going to go and it will be the admin that bites us on the backside there. A head turning annocement may have worked but this wasn't it. Good in itself yes but unlikely to seal the deal. Our main hope still is crusaders going tits up i'm afraid, like it or not.

Thank you


now I understand the context I am in support of the motion and will support however I can.

It is frustrating watching this from 13000 miles away...

the only issue is chicken and egg...

where is the building..,. if I were the RFL I would want to see building before awarding the franchise... it is likely Glover will want the franchise before building!

people have asked what I expected from the meeting... well this! Context!

It's sad that people should feel the need to dress up as fans in order to slate a club for its efforts to provide a better deal for supporters. It all sounds convincing, the 4.30 am starts and stuff, but it's pretty transparent when you look at the rest.

The RFL won't be fooled by any of the same bull they've received from the previous regime. They'll want proof. If the statements that have been made are kosher and give us the lifeline we need to protect and expand on the development of the club so far, then fair play to the Spirit of 1873. It may well be the most important announcement the club has ever made. If we're looking at Pearman II, then see you all at Eastmoor.

You suggesting I'm not a Wakey Fan?

You suggesting you are?

Im suggesting your a fool if you think i am some Cas troll? Or maybe i thought about this a few years back when i signed up. If brains where dynamite and all that.

I cant knock Glover for his hotspur however, it was MONEY that was needed to be thrust on the table.

I was glued to the thread wanting Parkin or some other investor to be the IMPORTANT in the most important night in Trinity's history however, we need to be realistic, all tonight appears to be is a fundraiser and PR exercise to remind the rugby league that we are still here.

You would have thought, after the last franchises and everything that's on the line for this, the people that judge this, will do exactly what you say. They'll require proof and costing and where the money's coming from and how it's going to be spent, time scales, the whole caboosh.
AG is either trying everything he can to keep us in SL, or he's been advised, that with 2 teams having sub par stadiums and are both waiting on new ones, it would be best, to redevelop the existing one and get it up to standard.

Don't agree, I don't think just cause Parkin would have invested, would have made a jot of difference, to the RFL or those rating the franchises. It would have been nice, if we had extra money, but if we drop a division, his money would be not much good anyway. The most important thing is getting those franchise points.

I'd imagine as they pay in 3 times it counts as 3.

If brains were dynamite there'd be no need to evacuate the area round your house.

People are discussing the issues now, not your pain.

Just got home from the airport and waded through 27 pages on this thread, its about page 2 where you spat your dummy out and said thats me I'm done, and here we are on page 27 and here's you acting the all singing all dancing drama queen, just an observation but don't you think that the time you have wasted on here with your petty negative comments and threats could have been put to better use with your family.

As someone who was told to wait for 30mins for the first lot to finish ( turned out to be nearly 2 hours)....not to mention our lass came ( she is a cas fan but lovely tits lol)......and from listening, applauding and admiring the legend that is Neil Fox.....AND!!!!! from someone who is realistic and just happy to have a club to follow and support...... I wasn't let down tonight. I have thought back.....not once did i get pressurised to spend any money i couldn't afford....no mucky looks....guns to heads......no different to me than buying a programme.....they are there....i buy or i don't buy ( and its about the same price)

Hmmm, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Better not say any more, I'd hate to be the one who pushed it over the top...

He might have to get up at 4:30 again

The draws are £500 per week and 2 x £5000!

Despite missing the first meeting I came out feeling fairly positive. The lottery seems a good way of creating the 5,000 members as it's reasonably cheap to take part in and offers a chance to get something back.

As for the stadium redevelopment yes we've heard it all before but not from Glover so he at least deserves the chance to back up his promises.

All in all it seems that the club are doing all they can to get us into Super League for the next 3 years yes they are asking for something but I don't think they are asking for much considering what they are offering to do.

So to sum up

A ground that doesn't completely meet the criteria - but that is better and closer to it than certain other grounds that are going to be awarded a licence. If Andrew and James have been working closely with Savills (?) on this and they are the ones that are going to be making recommendations to RFL/SL in terms of grounds then we must know this can only help.

A concerted effort to get to 5000 members (in whatever shape or form that takes) which again would probably put us in fromt of other applications - Do you honestly think that Salford, Quins, Crusaders have 5000 members?

As James Elston said it is all about ticking boxes - if we can tick more boxes than somebody else they will have a hard time justifying giving them a franchise and not us.

The announcement wasn't what some were hoping for (including me) but we still have a club, and we still have a chance of getting a licence.
Andrew and James are doing whatever they can to improve that chance.
You, me, everyone else that was there last night has been asked to try and improve our chances - is that really a bad thing??

I'll support my team wherever and whenever they play, but if this initiative can help us stay in the top flight then all the better.

Come on guys now is the time to stand up and be counted (literally)

your expectations were set high then

Maybe a fraction more....but nowhere near as much as we feared they would be if even half of your lot's expectations were fulfilled.

Let it go you troll, you got your bite now bore off.

You don't think that someone turning up and investing, say, a million quid into the club like the guy at Hull KR has, would make any difference? Really? Of course it would! A successful businessman seeing Wakey as a sound investment and thus the club having two money involved rather than relying on one would only be a good thing in the RFL's eyes.

Put it this way don't be surprised if the new saviour of Cas announces a significant investment in the not too distant future to wrestle the advantage well and truely back.

I don't really think there is any advantage to wrestle back. An announcement about a lottery scheme and stadium improvement that still falls short of complying with the SL requirements is hardly going to get Cas quaking in their boots.

I meant the PR advantage rather than anything else. As i've previously stated I don't think even if we hit the targets that were set last night that this announcement will make any difference at all to the way the RFL will think. The past will come back to haunt us i'm afraid. The RFL set a precedent last time out with widnes. They already had a shiney stadium, plenty of members and a new wealthy backer but the previous regimes failings scuppered them. I'd love to be wrong but i've a feeling they will apply the same thing here. This scenario won't apply to the sacred cow that is the crusaders though, the RFL have a vested interest in them.

What gets me most is the fans complaining....?

I expected more than that
I think there should of been summat more
You lot maybe happy but I'm not

But yet not one as stated what they was hoping AG to say or what they wanted to hear..??

Lets stop Arguing the rights and wrong, and back this club, in the end it is people power that rules the roost, the fans are the key, if we want it more than other super league clubs fan and show it by turning up to matches and getting our lottery to 5,000, then the money starts rolling in and makes the clubs job easyer, in we can offer better contracts to keep players, and to get top players in, what do we get a team that is going to win more games and take us in to the 8, then hopefully top 6, next top 4, and so on, but this can only be achived by back AG, then hopefully we can get a big sponsor....

Then hopefully wembley... (It will not be easy, but lets give it a shot) the ball is in the fans court...