what a good post are you Tim Sheerwood or Wayne Bennett, i claim my fiver

When you talk about budgets all we can afford 4overseas players3domestic players in sammut, mcshane and scruton since the start of the season doesn't seem to me like a club that's skint sorry these players or their wages won't be cheap so I for one don't buy that as an excuse,but eh what do I know

Slightly OT but what is the hype with Salford? They have an outdated coach and are terrible through the core of their team. 9, 7, 13 & 1 are poor, Meli has the mobility of the QE2. Real missed opportunity in game 1 for Trinity.

No chance of top 4 and I would be surprised if they made top 6.

I picked them as an extreme example of a new team that were put together but benefitted from all the advantages we didn't but have still produced indifferent performances. The hype comes from the press and their chairman. I am sure most of you do not expect them to be in the relegation battle. Their first three performances say they will but the team they have put together says not. I would suspect that unlike your own team you will give Salford the benefit of the doubt and expect them to come good surely Wakefield should be given the same consideration without the need for all these rabid posts.

Absolutely naff all about our budget. Next question?

Really annoyed me this weekend that I've heard people saying that things can't really have been all that bad last august. We'd have been better off not signing sammut and scruton because suddenly all sense of proportion has gone out of the window.
We let smith go and got sammut in at less net cost! We got the signing on fee from sky. Paid a whole load of debts and allocated some of it to bring scruton in. Things are still extremely tight. There will be no more in unless players go out first.
We've tried to give ourselves the very best chance of avoiding relegation whilst making sure by the year end that all debts will have been cleared.

So far we have lost to a salford side with 13 debutants, less 'gelled' than our own, and one who lost their star signing injured early on. Then to a Bradford side in turmoil, one who had just sold their star player to us. Now Wigan, a team who were without plenty of first team players and have just travelled back from the other side of the world. All 3 games were there for the taking but we never, bar a good 30 minute spell at salford, looked like getting near a win. But the most worrying thing is the lack of improvement through those games up to press. We look many weeks away from being a competitive side but we don't have that long. Make no bones about it, Catalans and London will be targeting us as a chance to get their own seasons up and running. We need to be an awful lot better otherwise we will get found out. We can't wait 6 weeks to come good, by then we will be in deep you know what. We need improvement NOW and we need points on the board. If we get the required improvements then Agar has done his job and people should allow him to get on with things. But if we carry on making the same basic errors and looking ridiculously disjointed then maybe he is not the man for the job. Richard, over to you.

That is absolutely crazy to think that Sammut - one of last season's most potent attacking players - costs less than Lee Smith!

Smith must have one hell of an agent

Or a gullible CEO

Its a shame though that the funds are now exhausted as we are crying out for a decent three-quarter from somewhere. That really would be the missing piece of the jigsaw. Best get spending your money in the ground and on the shop people, it could just make the difference.

Gullible? More like incompetent.

You're talking out of your backside again!

The U17 cohort within the U19 age group are the first to come through the improved scholarship system and there are some excellent young players amongst them who have every chance of making good professional careers.
Max Jowitt, Jordy Crowther and Harry Swann in particular are very good, incidentally I'm still waiting for an apology over the "Clown" comment regarding Max and Jordy being in the 1st team squad but I won't hold my breath as characters like you never admit they're wrong.

Do our U19s have as many top class youngsters as Wigan, No they don't but it is almost always thus however, every now and then we get a group who are as good or better than anything at other clubs.

Nobody can criticise you Mr Carter you have done a fabulous job. I paid good money today and it did not look like we believed we could win. Mathers pretending to tackle, Lynn not bothad about running, Briscoe may aswell ship back no where near standard, Agar making the same tactical errors, same excuses. Its boring. Sykes awful. We should be doing much better. If we were poor and tried I would not care but today a handful looked interested. Worrying!

I wasn't there today due to other commitments but on the whole I'm not bothered about the result. The players could have flogged themselves to death and the reality is that we would have lost.

For me, the season starts next week. We need three wins from the next six. Just draw a line underneath the start of the season and start from now. Bradford have got a tougher six weeks than we have. Blow this next period until Easter and the panic might set in.

For me, the usual scenario is that we are plucky and gallant losers against the top sides but then pathetic and dire against the teams around us. Well, we lost to the champions, away from home. I don't care how we played. How we play against Catalan interests me more.

New week, new start. Let's see how we are looking coming out of Good Friday.

Can't remember the clown comment but I'll take your word for it, I will stand by my comments about last years 16s put in some impressive displays, but wasn't gonna get carried away until they played the best and Saturdays result was a perfect example,there was a few 17yr olds in the Wigan team.I think the 2 lads he put in the first team squad are exellant prospects but a first team squad in my eyes is one players who are going to play on a regular basis and with respect I don't think they will now next season could be a different matter,16yr olds body's in my opinion are not developed enough to take the rigours of super league

Exactly. I'd written off Salford and Wigan away in any event.
A couple of wins will be great for confidence.

Really? I thought both fixtures were the ideal times to play them. I didn't have any confidence of beating Wigan but thought we'd beat Salford before they started to gel.

If we had started the season with a settled team then I'd agree but Salford have spent a load more money and a lot more time to gel than us. This team will come good and be good enough to finish top 12 at the end of the season.

The concern is we are going into the first of 2 crucial games with no form to speak of. Bar 30 mins against Salford it has been errors and gifting penalties as the norm.

We are all hoping that things suddenly click into place, but it's asking a lot to expect to be able to pick and choose which games to perform well in and win. There needs to be a solid base in attacking and defensive structures with penalties and errors kept to a minimum which so far there is no sign of us getting any nearer to

Having seen both the First Team and the academy put up extremely poor performances this weekend I wonder how long it will be before  RFA is actually held to account . He is the HEAD COACH of a club where there is no on field discipline . no defensive or attacking structures in place AT ALL, The academy have at least 3 pivots who wont or cant tackle and refuse to kick chase and one who can’t run . if we are not careful a decent crop of players (not pivots ) are going to be ruined .  

We have to give the team time to gel. Yes we have lost 3 on the spin but I would say that it was only the Bradford game that we could have expected to get a win from.

The next 2 games are crucial, we need to beat London at a bear minimum.

Anyway lets not all get 2 downhearted, we are only 2 points off the playoffs ....

I really am fed up at losing but more fed up with our so called supporters who continually slag players off, especially Richie Mathers. Yes, I was at the game and you have to ask why Mathers was continually under pressure. It was most of the team, whose tackling was suspect but you have to give credit to Wigans superb handling, passing, dummy runners and OK a few dodgy passes. There seems to be a caucus of 'supporters' who just watch Richie and are waiting for a mistake. In fact there was a group behind me yesterday who were intent on criticizing every move Richie made and cheered loudly when he was sin-binned. I am not sure why the made the trip over at all! For God's sake support the team. We have so many negative and cynical supporters (especially on here) it's very very sad.
Gotta calm down now!

I agree with you on this. I am a proud fan of Wakefield Trinity and will follow them whatever the weather but do feel sickened at both home and away games when I hear some of our fans constantly slagging off our team. The constant slating and nasty comments must impact on performance in a negative way and I have seen this on many occasions with Fox & Mathers.
The other extreme is the wonderful support that comes from the Northstanders with the singing and cheering and seeing how this impacts in such a positive way to motivate our players.

I read with interest the boards of other teams and none are as pessimistic and negative as some of our posters.
So come on lets back the lads! WTID

I agree too.
The most important support is when the team are going through difficulties.

We have had players saying how the fans have really lifted them in the past. Bet they are not saying it now.
We need to get back to basics too and just support the team we love.

I wouldn't disagree with that sentiment, but some of the players have to understand their role in this; if they look like they're giving 100%, they'll get support - it requires reciprocity.

I'm not one to bag individual players, but when it's right in front of your eyes that someone is not trying, it becomes very difficult to appreciate their efforts.