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| Quote ="pyeman"Thats funny i would support one that was called castleford and played in castleford wearing black and amber, anything less and....i'm out.'"
How about we all play in navy blue and white and call ourselves Fev?
I'll get me coat....
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"How about we all play in navy blue and white and call ourselves Fev?
I'll get me coat....'"
Get your passport instead, you need to emigrate after such a comment!
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| Quote ="pyeman"Get your passport instead, you need to emigrate after such a comment!'"
I'm already out of the country, mate... otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it.
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| No need to merge we are the famous Wakefield Trinity RLFC and will be playing in the Wakefield Community Stadium at Newmarket very soon. Love this club love this City. Trinity forever
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Well even if you made a team based off this years squads you end up with a very good team, something like:
Owen
Fox
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Huby
Milner
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Aiton
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We can argue about the details, but it looks pretty good, doesn't it?
Now given the achievements that Cas/Wakey Acedemy have had over recent years, imagine that as the combined pool into which you could dip to feed the first team.
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| Quote ="Wakefield City Loyal"Need to merge we are the famous Wakefield Trinity RLFC and will be playing in the Wakefield Community Stadium at Newmarket very soon. Love this club love this City. Trinity forever'"
Think you might have missed a "no" there, Paul.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Thats funny i would support one that was called castleford and played in castleford wearing black and amber, anything less and....i'm out.'"
so really a merged team would not have to play with red, white, blue, black or amber also not call them selves Wakefield or Castleford, tigers or wildcats
rather watch amateur league
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| Quote ="snowie"
rather watch amateur league'"
But who would your lad play for?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think JK is being a bit mischevious lately when it comes to WTW; he made a comment on TV recently about how we should be challenging for the 8 given the money that we've spent for this season, which in real terms, only amounts to about 100k more than he had at his disposal, so a little bit disengenuous.
As for these comments - he knows full well that a groundshare wouldn't work and is not wanted by either set of fans and, given the sensitivity of the PI decision, he'll know that his comments could add fuel to the anti-argument; in my view, he should keep his nose out and his trap shut.'" think you might have got the numbers wrong there mate.
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| Quote ="frogcat"think you might have got the numbers wrong there mate.
think its nearer 500 000 .'"
I'm not sure it is you know.
As for the merger talk - head says it's the most sensible way forward, even if heart objects; if St George Illawara Dragons can work, I see no reason that the Wakefield Castleford Panthers couldn't.
It would take people like us to die off though, before it became a success; I'm certain that my son would go watch a successful team in a fancy stadium, because he likes his rugby league and he likes watching winners, and no doubt he'd take his kids and that's how the next generation of diehards is born - just that they'd be diehard supporters of a new team.
I know it's heresy, but the prospect of one club benefitting from the young players we produce in the district and harnessing the latent support that exists for RL, is positively mouthwatering; I think the RFL would be cock-a-hoop if it happened, and we might find their attitude towards the venture would be extremely positive - certainly they'd have less of a headache come franchise time.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Are we friends again?
Firstly, Tesco are not interested in the EH Aire Street site and this is publicly known because they asked their planning consultants to object on their behalf to the planning renewal, and that objection is public record. So, EH could be bluffing or they have another operator interested in Aire Street... I think they might be bluffing, but that is just a gut reaction!
Tesco, as I have said many times before, are not interested in building a Supermarket on the site of the Castleford Tigers ground either!!! However, as I have also posted, a new deal is on the table, involving Opus, which would see a Tesco built on another site, the Tigers ground would still be developed as part of the deal but it would not be a retail development. This is the deal the RW & Opus are currently working on, and although it looks like complex deal, it also looks like it might actual have some legs! I hope it does and this new deal will bring the majority of the funding for GH but it is not quite as good (I understand) as the original deal.'"
Out of interest if Opus are trying to secure a deal on another site (and obviously dealing with another company) why would they still want to fund a stadium for Cas at GH? Surely the money will go to the other company (Nestle Rowntree is the rumour?) with Opus taking their cut? The WR deal (for houses i take it?) would surley just be a seperate thing. How are they linked? Are Opus just loaning the money once the deals are done cos i'm sure they will not be doing it out of the goodness of their heart. There has to be something in it for them.
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| Not all oldsters are against a merger.
I have supported for over 50 years and am frustrated at the lack of acheivment since the heady days of the sixties.
Before anyone comes in with --- but you live in France---- I can state that I have probably spent more on the club than most on this forum.
Further to that I still do still contribute and get over to watch when ever I can ---- when the wife allows.
Newmarket is the perfect venue being almost equidistant from both sets of fans.
The real problem has always been the name in my opinion.
Trinity Tigers is fine as someone previously suggested but the problem there is we need the name of Wakefield to promote both club and city, or metropolitan area.
A really successful club allied to the ongoing regeneration would really put Wakefield back on the map and more able to compete with the ever encroaching Leeds.
But what could we call the new club?
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| Quote ="jacques"Not all oldsters are against a merger.
But what could we call the new club?'"
West Yorkshire Trinity Tigers
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| Maybe John can answer why Wakefield played boring rugby under him while Batley were a joy to watch last night.
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| Quote ="jacques"Not all oldsters are against a merger.
I have supported for over 50 years and am frustrated at the lack of acheivment since the heady days of the sixties.
Before anyone comes in with --- but you live in France---- I can state that I have probably spent more on the club than most on this forum.
Further to that I still do still contribute and get over to watch when ever I can ---- when the wife allows.
Newmarket is the perfect venue being almost equidistant from both sets of fans.
The real problem has always been the name in my opinion.
Trinity Tigers is fine as someone previously suggested but the problem there is we need the name of Wakefield to promote both club and city, or metropolitan area.
A really successful club allied to the ongoing regeneration would really put Wakefield back on the map and more able to compete with the ever encroaching Leeds.
But what could we call the new club?'"
Wakefield Trinity.
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| I think a merged club could be far more successful than either club individually could ever dream of being.
However i am happy to hold back that success in line with the rest of the proud supporters of each club!!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm not sure it is you know.
As for the merger talk - head says it's the most sensible way forward, even if heart objects; if St George Illawara Dragons can work, I see no reason that the Wakefield Castleford Panthers couldn't.
It would take people like us to die off though, before it became a success; I'm certain that my son would go watch a successful team in a fancy stadium, because he likes his rugby league and he likes watching winners, and no doubt he'd take his kids and that's how the next generation of diehards is born - just that they'd be diehard supporters of a new team.
I know it's heresy, but the prospect of one club benefitting from the young players we produce in the district and harnessing the latent support that exists for RL, is positively mouthwatering; I think the RFL would be cock-a-hoop if it happened, and we might find their attitude towards the venture would be extremely positive - certainly they'd have less of a headache come franchise time.'"
TBH I think Frogcats 500k is close.
I'm not sure why you think it's as little as 100k when AG said he intended to spend up to or close the the cap. No way were we near cap last year.
Added to this last years star signings were Jeremy Smith and Tommy Lee with Morrison and Rinaldi adding the bulk of the SL experience - no dis-respect but there is not a huge amount of cash there, the rest ware a real bargain mix.
Since then we have signed, Tim Smith, Collis, Aiton, John and Southern - all players who could get an NRL birth at a push - they don't come cheap.
Ellis, Wilkes, Raleigh, Washbrook, Fox, Kirmond, Mellors etc were all SL regulars last years and far from cast offs. Again, not cheap.
Big Ali may no longer command super star wages but again won't come cheap either.
You start adding that lot together compared to last year and 500k sounds very reasonable indeed - in which case JK has a point. Whether he'd have produced a better team if he'd have got that 500k is debatable.
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| I heard last seasons spend was about £800K, and AG said we would be spending around £1.2, so i make Frogcat and Vastman about right.
The season previous however was about £1.1 so this is where comparisons IMO should be made, and when JK states i'd love to coach that side, he did and we were gash!!
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| all the brass last year was spent on pies for hickey.
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| Quote ="TrinitarianWF2"That's a bold statement Gronk!
I'd advise taking a more Gentle approach to claims like that
Although your boss is fond of similar (ironic) statements
Richard Wright:
"“We believe our plan offers benefits to the community, the Glass Houghton site and the club. We are aware that Edinburgh House has resubmitted its planning application but it’s been in excess of five years and nothing’s materialised."
Is he taking about EH or his proposed stadium???
Bottom line in my view is that the WR scenario is going to take a hell of a long time to resolve.'"
That quote from Richard Wright was the most amusing part of this whole scenario. Do you think he realises what he is saying sometimes????
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Maybe John can answer why Wakefield played boring rugby under him while Batley were a joy to watch last night.'"
Before everyone starts bashing Kear, we should remember that he had a much weaker squad last season, and managed to beat Hull KR at home, Bradford at home and Hull away, as well as Huddersfield at home. That's eight points from those four teams alone, and by Sunday night we not have any points from the same sides.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Before everyone starts bashing Kear, we should remember that he had a much weaker squad last season, and managed to beat Hull KR at home, Bradford at home and Hull away, as well as Huddersfield at home. That's eight points from those four teams alone, and by Sunday night we not have any points from the same sides.'"
Very good point. I have no issue with Agar but JK worked a miracle last year IMHO. You don't need to build one up by knocking down the other, they both had/have difficult jobs to do - way beyond the ability range of anyone on here unless Wayne Bennett has taken to posting on here. You never know
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| Quote ="vastman"Very good point. I have no issue with Agar but JK worked a miracle last year IMHO. You don't need to build one up by knocking down the other, they both had/have difficult jobs to do - way beyond the ability range of anyone on here unless Wayne Bennett has taken to posting on here. You never know
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I agree and I hope that JK has the same attitude.
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Out of interest if Opus are trying to secure a deal on another site (and obviously dealing with another company) why would they still want to fund a stadium for Cas at GH? Surely the money will go to the other company (Nestle Rowntree is the rumour?) with Opus taking their cut? The WR deal (for houses i take it?) would surley just be a seperate thing. How are they linked? Are Opus just loaning the money once the deals are done cos i'm sure they will not be doing it out of the goodness of their heart. There has to be something in it for them.'"
Thats the £12million question.
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