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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Lamps played scrum half for us as far as I remember. How do you want to compare him with Rocky?
Rocky vs Sonny- no comparison either. 24 GB caps vs a few for NZ Maori.'"
Some players like Fox Turner Round have no equal in a Trinity shirt
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Some players like Fox Turner Round have no equal in a Trinity shirt'"
I'll offer Jony Parkin as one who does
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Lamps played scrum half for us as far as I remember. '"
I have one of his playing shirts with a 13 on the back. Worse nose than Neil Kelly.
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| Quote ="Ray Price Is God"How about Steve Ella vs Wally Lewis
As for Gary Spencer, i was young when he was around and you dont see the game the same. Having said that judging by some comments on here i dont think it matters how old you are!'"
So can you remember the 1st David Jones then not the st pats one.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"So can you remember the 1st David Jones then not the st pats one.'"
From Fitzy, he was actually a better winger than the 2nd David Jones, maybe not such a cult hero but he knew how to play the position better.
St Pats version would have been great if he'd ever learned to run at gaps instead of players, if he was put in the clear I swear he would of gone out of his way to try and run over someone.
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Quote ="cheshirecat57"So can you remember the 1st David Jones then not the st pats one.'"
I remember him running at players, I used to think it funny lol
From Fitzy, he was actually a better winger than the 2nd David Jones, maybe not such a cult hero but he knew how to play the position better.
St Pats version would have been great if he'd ever learned to run at gaps instead of players, if he was put in the clear I swear he would of gone out of his way to try and run over someone.'"
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Lampowski was signed as a scrum half but moved to loose when we signed Allan Agar what a loss he was when he hung up his boots great player who would have being a star in SL'"
Lampkowski was a fantastic player.
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| A player people seem to forget is Ian Brooke.
Lightning quick GB centre also v good stand off.
Is it because he went to Bradford in his prime.
Also what about Big Neils ideal centre partner South African Alan Skene.
Also fellow South African Gert Oupa Coetzer.
Then the incomparible Poynton.
You didnt have to try and hide Harold in the defensive line.
Bob Haigh and and and ....
What memories.
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| Quote ="Ray Price Is God"How about Steve Ella vs Wally Lewis
As for Gary Spencer, i was young when he was around and you dont see the game the same. Having said that judging by some comments on here i dont think it matters how old you are!'"
for performance on the pitch during his time at Wakefield Steve Ella
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| Quote ="frenchdreadnought"A player people seem to forget is Ian Brooke.
Lightning quick GB centre also v good stand off.
Is it because he went to Bradford in his prime.
Also what about Big Neils ideal centre partner South African Alan Skene.
Also fellow South African Gert Oupa Coetzer.
Then the incomparible Poynton.
You didnt have to try and hide Harold in the defensive line.
Bob Haigh and and and ....
What memories.'"
I know many older fans who say the Neil Fox couldnt have done nearly as much had Alan Skene not done his tackling for him. Lots o great partnerships have that relationship, one a grafter the other a points machine.
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| For my money Brian Juliff is the best winger I can remember very very underrated he went on to make a decent 2nd row forward too
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Trevor Skerrett V Jack Wilkinson
Mike Lampowski V Glen Morrison
Keith Smith V Ryan Atkins
Andy Kelly V Mike Jackson
A fit Bill Ashurst V David Solomona
Les Sheard V Gary Spencer
Graham Idle V Nigel Bell
Allan McCurrie V any hooker at the club since 79'"
Solomona wasn't fit to lace the boots of big Bill Ashurst. Bill was far and away the best second row forward I have ever seen in over 50 years of watching the game. He was an absolute gem, he had pace, power, a football brain second to none and a better offload than Solomona!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Solomona wasn't fit to lace the boots of big Bill Ashurst. Bill was far and away the best second row forward I have ever seen in over 50 years of watching the game. He was an absolute gem, he had pace, power, a football brain second to none and a better offload than Solomona!'"
BA also had a good short kicking game, was a dirty sod and he could fight
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Trevor Skerrett V Jack Wilkinson
Mike Lampowski V Glen Morrison
Keith Smith V Ryan Atkins
Andy Kelly V Mike Jackson
A fit Bill Ashurst V David Solomona
Les Sheard V Gary Spencer
Graham Idle V Nigel Bell
Allan McCurrie V any hooker at the club since 79'"
Some good matchups there but not all:
Lamps was far more dynamic than Morro and he was, despite appearances, a clever footballer so while I respect Glen, Mike gets my vote here.
Keith Smith would be one of the best centres in the world were he to be playing today! Ryan Atkins is Physicaly strong and has decent pace but Smithy was about 6'1 (a giant in his era) and not slow himself but he was gifted with the ball in hand, he had a step, a feint, a dummy and silky skills that Atkins will only dream about.
The young Andy Kelly at 6'4" and 17.5st had the pace and athleticism of a centre he ran over players for fun and I struggle to remember another player who hit wide balls with as much speed. In his first stint with Wakefield he was simply unplayable at times even by the top clubs of his era. Mick Jackson was quick and powerfully but lacked the size of Andy although he certainly took the eye when hitting a gap he wasn't the type to steamroller the opposition like Kelly did.
Bill Ashurst as stated above was an amazing player, Trinity fans perhaps didn't see him at his best but still he was magical at times. Big, Brutal but with amazing handling ability in all situations, he could show the ball and have the opposition, spectators, cameras and officials all watching someone else while he strolled away still in possession. Solo was/is magical at times but despite his gifted offload he's a pale imitation of Ashurst.
Les Sheard and Gary Spencer seemed very similar and it's hard to split them, I'd go with Spencer because he was a better tackler and had better positional sense as a fullback. His lack of real pace, he wasn't slow just not fast, rarely caught him out because he played the position so well, if he got close enough to touch the opposition he'd bring them down, he was also a great support player, so Spencer gets the vote.
Graham Idle played in a superb Trinity pack that contained the likes of Skerrett, the Rayne twins, Ashurst, McCurrie, Burke while Nigel Bell was a colossus of a poor Wakefield team. Bellys longevity and consistency wins this one for me although Idle shares many of his attributes.
Alan McCurrie would have been a revelation were he playing today, he did much of what we revere Cameron Smith for, kicking, handling, leadership etc. he was often too good for the players around him and his level of thinking often came to naught because some team mates weren't on his wavelength. Hookers who deserve a mention are Billy Conway perhaps our best hooker since McCurrie and Matt Fuller who was prominent for a couple of years.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Solomona wasn't fit to lace the boots of big Bill Ashurst. Bill was far and away the best second row forward I have ever seen in over 50 years of watching the game. He was an absolute gem, he had pace, power, a football brain second to none and a better offload than Solomona!'"
If he had a better offload than Solo, we youner ones really have missed something special. Solomona is the most gifted all round (not refering to his prestnt physique) player i've seen wear a Trin shirt.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If he had a better offload than Solo, we youner ones really have missed something special. Solomona is the most gifted all round (not refering to his prestnt physique) player i've seen wear a Trin shirt.'"
My post may seem like I'm being a bit hard on Solo', this is not my intention as I regard him as being a bit 'special' as well! I just remember the newspaper headlines the first time that Ashurst played for us, I believe it was a Friday night at Featherstone. The paper said 'Ashurst roamed the field like a Colossus' the point being that he wasn't just a left sided player, he was devastating from anywhere on the pitch-despite all his effort we lost!
Trinity signed him for what was I believe a world record fee at the time of £18000! Not bad for only twenty odd games - he was no doubt crocked when we signed him, (nice one Wigan!) but I for one am glad we did.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If he had a better offload than Solo, we youner ones really have missed something special. Solomona is the most gifted all round (not refering to his prestnt physique) player i've seen wear a Trin shirt.'"
Bill Ashurst is the best player I have ever seen play he was way before his time if he played today he would have being the best 2nd row forward in the world
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| as above bill ashurst is the best player ihave ever seen,his ball handling skills were second to none and he could open up
any defence, his passing ability was devastating a fit bill ashurst and trinity would have won the cup in 79
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| Quote ="flo10"as above bill ashurst is the best player ihave ever seen,his ball handling skills were second to none and he could open up
any defence, his passing ability was devastating a fit bill ashurst and trinity would have won the cup in 79'"
Not only was Bill Ashurst a great player but a brilliant man off the field as well!
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| Tim Smith Vs Jamie Rooney
Justin Poore Vs Michael Korkidas
Danny Kirmond Vs Gareth Ellis
Ben Cockayne Vs Semi Tadulala
Dean Collis Vs Sid Domic
Frankie Mariano Vs Gary Price
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| Quote ="TRT"Not only was BiIl Ashurst a great player but a brilliant man off the field as well!'"
I saw them both play (though I was young in 70s) and I have to say I'd chose Solomona.
Different styles but simply the fact that Ashurst had injuries and had seen better days, whereas Solomona was at the hight of his powers....Solomona for me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I saw them both play (though I was young in 70s) and I have to say I'd chose Solomona.
Different styles but simply the fact that Ashurst had injuries and had seen better days, whereas Solomona was at the hight of his powers....Solomona for me.'"
Do you know you've just replied to a 2 year old post!
Sesqui wotsit - you must have too much time on your hands!
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| I wondered why I hadn't noticed this before. Doh.
Still, it was a historic discussion anyway so nothing has changed.
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| Just refreshing it as its an off season topic forum filler to pass the time and keep everyone interested and we've had a few new players so some new p v p comparisons to make
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| Quote ="Sesquipedalian"Tim Smith Vs Jamie Rooney
Justin Poore Vs Michael Korkidas
Danny Kirmond Vs Gareth Ellis
Ben Cockayne Vs Semi Tadulala
Dean Collis Vs Sid Domic
Frankie Mariano Vs Gary Price'"
This is an interesting one for me.
Danny is 100% effort, does the little things right, times his runs well, can find a gap or burst a tackle.
Ellis had a little bit more skill IMO, tackled a lot harder and could still do the other things that Danny does.
I'd have to pick Ellis but it would be close.
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