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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I have a dream where David Fifita has one of his better games, creating mayhem with his unpredictability and strength and size. He goes off after 20 mins to a shake of the hand with his impact replacement, Andrew Fifita, who creates mayhem with his ........ etc
Where do I buy my season ticket?
I just can't help think, however, that being with his brother may not equate to playing with his brother. It sounds like he wants away from Aus, but clubs like Leeds or Huddersfield could provide the brotherly proximity but the greater prospect.'"
I guess if he does come to the UK it will be down to which club he chooses, not which club chooses him. He's world class and could pick where he wants. It also comes down to which clubs have space on the cap or a marquee place, as well as not being over the quota.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I have a dream where David Fifita has one of his better games, creating mayhem with his unpredictability and strength and size. He goes off after 20 mins to a shake of the hand with his impact replacement, Andrew Fifita, who creates mayhem with his ........ etc
Where do I buy my season ticket?
I just can't help think, however, that being with his brother may not equate to playing with his brother. It sounds like he wants away from Aus, but clubs like Leeds or Huddersfield could provide the brotherly proximity but the greater prospect.'"
Lets not forget Anthony England who for half the season before his injury was our best forward and IMHO better than David. With those three in the team there would be some damage.
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| Going back to the dream Slugger me and my son were only in debate last night about our props should both Fifita's be with us next year.
I would have thought with Andrew being probably being the superior one I would think he would start.
Like you say though those two along with England our pack looking formiddable. Last prop in side would be between Hirst Simon and Arona though have said before the latter two could be useful in the second row for us
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| Why shouldn't we have that dream of such a world class player joining us? It would shake up the league like never before. Could this be the reason why it's been pretty quiet on the signings front recently? Things happening behind the scenes to secure us a marquee signing. I sure as hell hope so, the phoenix could be rising a little further from those ashes this coming season if this comes off.
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| Arona is our starting 13 probably interchanging with Sio if he's not going to be one of our hookers.
I'd expect Simon and Hirst to be off the bench with David Fifita and England starting.
If, and it's a huge IF, the unlikely recruitment of Andrew Fifita were to happen I'd expect one of Hirst and Simon to rotate in and out of the starting 17.
Ashurst is a shoe in for one starting 2nd row berth with A Tupou, Crowther, Kirmond, Malloy and Batchelor accompanying him from time to time. My preference would be for Crowther to get the nod as our other starting 2nd row.
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| Comments from Chester in league express would suggest neither fifita will be coming
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| chester is correct- and the worst part about it is that the fifita brothers are using our club has a bargaing toll-speaking of toolls we don't want them here!
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| Give them til Wednesday to sign, & if they don't let the world know we won't be signing them. That'll p*ss on their bonfire.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Arona is our starting 13 probably interchanging with Sio if he's not going to be one of our hookers.
I'd expect Simon and Hirst to be off the bench with David Fifita and England starting.
If, and it's a huge IF, the unlikely recruitment of Andrew Fifita were to happen I'd expect one of Hirst and Simon to rotate in and out of the starting 17.
Ashurst is a shoe in for one starting 2nd row berth with A Tupou, Crowther, Kirmond, Malloy and Batchelor accompanying him from time to time. My preference would be for Crowther to get the nod as our other starting 2nd row.'"
Agree with most of that, although who knows what's happening with big Dave but ateotd the club will plug the gap if he leaves. IF Kirmond's sorted out his injuries and is coming into the season in decent physical shape, he'd be in my 2nd row with Ashurst. But we'll see who else is to come in to the forwards because as a guess, they'll be 3 new ones to arrive, especially if Fifita goes.
Hopefully Crowther can make his mark this year on the team. He's another year older, physically developing, another pre-season under his belt and another local lad in the side. Personally though I think maybe at first CC will use him off the bench and see how the lad goes.
As for Arona imo I think he's been underrated by some fans this year. The guys made the 2nd most meters in the team, most tackles, doesn't make many errors or give too many penalties and played 32 games, that's a good first year for an overseas forward imo and I wouldn't be surprised if we see him improve in 2017.
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| I noticed on the next page of LE that's Mitch Allgood is on the verge of signing for a SL club. Sounds a more likely deal to me.
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| Quote ="TRB"I noticed on the next page of LE that's Mitch Allgood is on the verge of signing for a SL club. Sounds a more likely deal to me.'"
Does sound a lot more likely and at 6 4 and 27 years old has a bit of size and experience, just a shame if it happens he's not likely to be playing with fajitas
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"Does sound a lot more likely and at 6 4 and 27 years old has a bit of size and experience, just a shame if it happens he's not likely to be playing with fajitas'"
Do Mexicans count on the quota?
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| Quote ="Emley Cat"Why shouldn't we have that dream of such a world class player joining us?'"
Because what we have to offer is:
1. Small crowds
2. Grim surroundings
3. No prospects of silverware
World class players don't join us. End of.
To be fair to us though, world class players don't join any British club anymore. The best British talent heads down there and turn out to be merely average (the forwards excepted,it would seem), and we get the has-beens, the can't-break-through, the young-and-eager.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Because what we have to offer is:
1. Small crowds
2. Grim surroundings
3. No prospects of silverware
World class players don't join us. End of.
To be fair to us though, world class players don't join any British club anymore. The best British talent heads down there and turn out to be merely average (the forwards excepted,it would seem), and we get the has-beens, the can't-break-through, the young-and-eager.'"
And crocks, on the comeback
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| Quote ="Dave K."Do Mexicans count on the quota?'" only the beef one s don't think chicken ones count ....
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Arona is our starting 13 probably interchanging with Sio if he's not going to be one of our hookers.
I'd expect Simon and Hirst to be off the bench with David Fifita and England starting.
If, and it's a huge IF, the unlikely recruitment of Andrew Fifita were to happen I'd expect one of Hirst and Simon to rotate in and out of the starting 17.
Ashurst is a shoe in for one starting 2nd row berth with A Tupou, Crowther, Kirmond, Malloy and Batchelor accompanying him from time to time. My preference would be for Crowther to get the nod as our other starting 2nd row.'"
I hope so too
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| Quote ="TRB"I noticed on the next page of LE that's Mitch Allgood is on the verge of signing for a SL club. Sounds a more likely deal to me.'"
When I've seen him play in televised matches he's not broke many tackles or gained much yardage to say he is an Ex-NRL prop.
The KR forum 'on the players next season' (and a thread by Eastern Wildcat saying Allgood on the verge of signing for Trinity) also isn't that complementary about him and appear to suggest that Dane Tilse (also out of contract) would be a better signing than Allgood.
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| Seen a few Hull KR matches in the past as the wife is a lifelong fan.
From what I have seen Im not convinced either but think hes better than Tilse
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| Quote ="asmadasa"When I've seen him play in televised matches he's not broke many tackles or gained much yardage to say he is an Ex-NRL prop.
The KR forum 'on the players next season' (and a thread by Eastern Wildcat saying Allgood on the verge of signing for Trinity) also isn't that complementary about him and appear to suggest that Dane Tilse (also out of contract) would be a better signing than Allgood.'"
I think it was Vastman who said the KR fans aren't complementary about any player that leaves and he does have a point.
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| Fair point....clean slate if he puts on the red,white and blue jersey...
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| Quote ="Willzay"I think it was Vastman who said the KR fans aren't complementary about any player that leaves and he does have a point.'"
Bit harsh on the fans as these are the players who got us relegated the only one who's taken a bit of stick is Walker for obvious reasons in regards to Allgood I expected him to be better and won't miss him to be honest doesn't really break a tackle bit of a hothead Campese turned out to be a bit of a disaster Kelly great on his day but let us down when we needed him Sio and Mantallato will probably leave and they've both been excellent Sio should get an NRL gig as to be honest he was to good for us
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Bit harsh on the fans as these are the players who got us relegated the only one who's taken a bit of stick is Walker for obvious reasons in regards to Allgood I expected him to be better and won't miss him to be honest doesn't really break a tackle bit of a hothead Campese turned out to be a bit of a disaster Kelly great on his day but let us down when we needed him Sio and Mantallato will probably leave and they've both been excellent Sio should get an NRL gig as to be honest he was to good for us'"
Tbf though you're one of the better Hull KR posters, so don't count.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Seen a few Hull KR matches in the past as the wife is a lifelong fan.
From what I have seen Im not convinced either but think hes better than Tilse'"
I've only seen him when on the TV and when they came to Belle Vue and tbh from that he was Ok nothing more for an overseas Prop.
Looking at his stats, to say he played 29 games, he only carried 197 times for 1397 meters, he's average gain was decent at just over 7 meters. But that would suggest he either doesn't do many minutes, or he doesn't make many carries a game.
Just as a comparison Scruton who played 24 games, 5 games less, carried the ball 221 times for 1386 meters. So Scruton gets more carries a game but averages less each carry. If we compare him against our overseas Prop. Fifita, who only played 16 games , he carried the ball 159 times for 1133 meters.
As for Tilse, he carried the ball 296 times in 32 games for 1946 meters, av gain 6.80 meters. I mean these are only stats and you can only take so much from them but from the what I've seen plus the above, I'd agree Tilse would be the better signing.
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| Fair comment their Shifty, I hadn't looked at the stats and compared them to be honest. Though I have just looked, and it looks like Allgood's defence it a bit better than Tilse, with average tackles per game.
My conception and comparison of the two, were just in watching the few games that I had seen, plus hearing the fans around me, and in the phone in's on the radio, on the way back from the Hull games.
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| Allgood was Hull KR's top tackler at 675 tackles and 119 marker tackles also so maybe difficult to read too much into stats on this one. Tilse stats for missed tackles at 48 was the 3rd worst for KR.
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