At the end of the day mate, i'm sure Asmadasa couldn't care less what I've put, he's fully entitled to his opinion, I've just asked a question in response to what he put, if he wants to answer and expand on what he's put, that's up to him.

Like I've said, he's given an opinion, when I've stated how many matches we have won under BS, i'm dealing in facts, which can't be debated or argued with, you can then of course argue whether it's fair or not as a coach to be judged solely on results, but i'm sure BS couldn't give a toss as to what I or anyone else thinks about his win/loss record since he's been here. The problem is, we have got so used to watching dross mostly, any little bit of improvement and it's like a massive overreaction. The point i'm trying to make, and yes there is one, somewhere,

is that BS or anyone else is not above being criticised, it goes with the territory, it's gone on for years as we all know, just replace pubs and clubs with social media, if people don't like a thread about the pros/cons of our current coach, then don't post.

Great post......i not for one minute saying he should go but at the end of the day it is 1 win out of 12 v Sl clubs isnt good enough what if we were to lose our next 3 away games which is very possible any other coach there would be serious questions asked with a 1 in 15 ratio.time will tell im hoping a couple of suprise wins will boost confidence and we start to win games

Listen mate it was merely an observation on my part, asmadasa does not need me to defend his opinions he's more than capable on that score, I'm sure had he wanted to he could have justified his post with an in depth assessment of the situation but chose instead to simply say that in his opinion Smith has been the best for quite a while, whereas you chose to disagree which is your choice to make but you then argue that Smith's win rate is poor yet then defend him because as you say is it fair to judge him on wins alone, but it's noticeable you don't offer an alternative name.
As you are quick to point out if people don't like what's been written on certain threads they should not post, conversely when you do post you should be prepared to accept that everybody won't always agree with your point of view

what the hells going on. if you remember B S took over when the club was in a right state. The dressing room stank and the players had no interest. Ihen our playmaker goes on a bender . I can only imagine the problems that encased club but it all came together at the season end when players had been trusted to carry out the clubs business .
I don't know what some of you expect but in B S we have a seasoned R L man that will turn the club round.
The target was to keep the Trin in the S L and having achieved that the guy deserves some respect and time to improve the fortunes of our club.

Jesus Christ no one is talking about sacking Smith! What some people are trying to do are discussing whether or not Smith will turn out to be the saviour that some hope him to be. The only hysterical over reaction is coming from those who think the sun shines out of his backside.

FWIW I would only look at his win/loss ratio at the round he joined last year, not now.

I didn't say that and neither did others that disagree with your opinion. Luckily your not the chairman.

For what its worth I don't think he did any better than JK would have had he been at the tiller or a fair few other about last season but and this is where we will see the benefit Smith will go about putting things in place that will stand us in good stead for future years. The bloke is a vast knowledge of the game on and off the field and knows his stuff yes Sunday was a loss but the season is more than one game long. He has brought some good players in that just need time to settle and lets face it you would need to go to the refs sponsor to not notice how much fitter the players are. Give the bloke a chance we are only one game in if we were half the season in and looked unfit and had loss after loss we could all say no not as good as made out but some how I don't think we will.

Too right BS is putting structures in place, this started last season, when T.Smith, Locke and L.Smith were dropped for the most important game in the clubs recent history.
Someone has already mentioned,it's not going to happen overnight at Trin, unfortunately some people can't see past the ends of their noses.

Jesus Christ!!! The only hysterical reaction seems to be coming from your direction squire.
As you've seemed to have worked it out, people are discussing the merits and also the alleged failings of our coach B Smith, the only problem is, is that you appear to be unhappy with the pro Smith camp by accusing them of thinking the sun shines out of his arris, a very mature attitude to have :roll

Hypocrisy at its best, as you and Vastman have taken a similar approach to those on the other side of the fence.

I'll take that as you agree with me then

One match in and there is already a fence which I assume means two camps! Only on this forum - absolutely bonkers and counter productive

Gee Brian Smiths CV is great! lots of competition win and lots of non disgruntled ex players!!!!!!
can anybody see us winning any of the next 8 games? seriously ? look at the draw.

I pencil it us as winning our home game against Salford as our next and maybe only win of the season!!!!!

I think the players and fans at Hull FC and Bradford may have a different view to yours.

Impressive argument...I would be REALLY interested in hearing your credible, realistic choice to replace him. I won't be holding my breath waiting for your reply...

Hi, Parramatta Eels supporter here, from Sydney. I just thought I’d point out that this is simply untrue. Smithy was with Parramatta for ten straight years, and we made the finals in eight of those years! The previous ten years we didn’t make the finals once. The transformation he made to our club was one of the most remarkable turnarounds I’ve seen, and we were always a force to be reckoned with while Smithy was at the helm. The years before his arrival we were an absolute rabble — the early and mid-1990s weren’t much better than what you guys experienced last year. In 2001 we won the minor premiership, smashed the NRL club point scoring record for a season, and made the grand final. This was Brian Smith's fifth year at the club. He again guided us to the minor premiership in 2005, when he’d been with the Eels for nine years!

Thanks for that.

Should this be on your "lets get positive" thread

No he hasn't wrecked every club he's been at.

He did a great job at Hull when he was with us and turned some very average players into a very good team and some of them into internationals.

He's came into Wakefield at a difficult time and maintained your Super League status. I wish you and Bri well for the season.

So Belly and Bojo I guess you got your answer.

Results speak for themselves no hes not all that

Exactly it's not what's he done in the past its what's he's doing now that's important.

Last year from 1-7 we were abysmal. To remedy this he signs two back rowers from oz.
Can see this season being even worse than last. One win against SL since he joined, no for me not all that.

I got slated a few weeks back and yet today's performance proves my point, the players haven no respect for smith. The supporters think he was the saviour winning 1 game against a championship side. The players want him out, his methods are out of date. Mr Billy big time attitude. Bring back Jk or Richie Marshall best young coach around.

Anson, consider this your warning for trolling.