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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"This dual coaching role concerns me too.
‘Come to Warrington on slightly less money than other clubs can offer, but you’ll top it up when I select you for the England squad’'"
Good point, not thought of it like that. Even if it isn't abused, it is an issue the RFL should have considered & possibly safguarded against.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"This dual coaching role concerns me too.
‘Come to Warrington on slightly less money than other clubs can offer, but you’ll top it up when I select you for the England squad’'"
As stated by me the other day!
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"This dual coaching role concerns me too.
‘Come to Warrington on slightly less money than other clubs can offer, but you’ll top it up when I select you for the England squad’'"
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No that ones for the salary cap people when they question why they have managed to sign a player on less money than his previous club. There is another reason, =redbut unfortunately I can't post it on here, as the implications of what I would have posted could be construed as libelous and land the site in trouble, according to RR.
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| If we are open to offers for Ryan (and all players have their price), then I'm glad that Warrington have alledgedly come in for him. Let's now see how much Leeds want him, Hull too seem to have a lot of £ to spend and are making significant changes for 2010. I'm with JK on not entering a bidding war when we want a player, but if we are selling it's a totally different matter.
Anyone want to start the bidding.
If the Wire get him then I wouldn't be suprised to see Ben W involved - it would tick some of these quota boxes ie British and wouldn't he be classed as Wakefield academy trained?
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| Can't say I am over bothered about this, would like to see somebody like Chris Bridge coming the other way, or Matty Blythe, or Ben Westwood. How realistic this is I don't know, but I don't understand why people would moan before we know whats coming back the other way - either directly or indirectly.
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| I have to say, and not wanting to offend anyone but what a load of tosh!
Dual coaching roles have been around before. It's not new. He has assistants that are also connected with clubs.....and physios and doctors too. Are they offering better treatment to club players and strapping the others up incorrectly?
There is no evidence of Smith offering anything to prospective Warrington signings.
Are we discussing the moon landings and grassy knoll next? or can we leave this one alone.
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| Quote ="Haywire"Can't say I am over bothered about this, would like to see somebody like Chris Bridge coming the other way, or Matty Blythe, or Ben Westwood. How realistic this is I don't know, but I don't understand why people would moan before we know whats coming back the other way - either directly or indirectly.'"
The only problem with player exchanges is that you can be lumbered with a player with no desire to play for your team.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"The only problem with player exchanges is that you can be lumbered with a player with no desire to play for your team.'"
Very true, suppose its not much fun being used as a makewieght.
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| Quote ="Haywire"Very true, suppose its not much fun being used as a makewieght.'"
It could also back fire on the players existing club knowing that he isn’t really wanted. I remember Messrs Reardon and Langley were more then a little aggrieved when Bradford were reported to have offered them as make weights for Ellis.
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| Wouldn't have thought even Atkins would call himself an international player on the back of playing in an 'international' against France.
Will be interesting to see what is coming the other way either money or players. Interesting times.
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| Quote ="J.T"Wouldn't have thought even Atkins would call himself an international player on the back of playing in an 'international' against France.
Will be interesting to see what is coming the other way either money or players. Interesting times.'"
It's interesting though over the last couple of years we have had a number of players getting representative honours:
Rooney
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Seems to be a trend of them leaving now?!!? Not all for same reason. Obviously Moore hasn't gone but rumours of him going to Wigan for a while.
No point to make about it, just pointing it out.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's interesting though over the last couple of years we have had a number of players getting representative honours:
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Ferris
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Seems to be a trend of them leaving now?!!? Not all for same reason. Obviously Moore hasn't gone but rumours of him going to Wigan for a while.
No point to make about it, just pointing it out.'"
None of them have played in a 'proper' international though. I mean Rooney's at Barrow!
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| Quote ="J.T"Wouldn't have thought even Atkins would call himself an international player on the back of playing in an 'international' against France.
Will be interesting to see what is coming the other way either money or players. Interesting times.'"
He also played schoolboy etc rugby for England as well did he not
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| He has played in all the available international games this season. It was at the highest level you can play at the moment.
Why wouldn't he call himself an international.
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| So is this a done deal or just another rumour
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| Not surprised he's going but I am surprised he's going to Warrington.
Who would we want in exchange or will the money be used to bring in Tronc, Newton and Morrison.
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| well good look ryan on your adventures over at wire, sorry to see you go
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| Quote ="miamivice"my concern is also that with so many leaving (if true), then we will take time to gel.
it is no coincidence that the teams with the least turnover of players, do the better the following year. we ourselves are proof of that.
we need to keep a nucleas of players together, but our nucleas could be a lot smaller than others!!!
the other concern for me is that we seem to be linked with "journeymen" players as replacements. i know that we all want to see a team of stars and that is not possible at wakey, but at least a couple of stars are required.
maybe henderson to replace atkins at centre............(said in jest, but you never know...???)'"
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| Oh well, if he wants to go and the club want him to go then so be it. Just another player to me. Bring in a youth for I say, also I rate Evans highly, a solid centre who works hard.
If we lose Snitch on the other hand I won't be pleased, he is a grafter like Dale Ferguson, both would be sorely missed if they leave.
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| Quote but Wakefield deny any knowledge of Ryan Atkins, who has two years left on his contract, departing to Warrington. '"
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| I also have faith in kear having the best intrests of our club at heart and whatever he decides to do i'll back him.
Re, Ryan im 50/50 over his move.
For keep - young - english international - our top scorer- counts towards english players on franchise.
To let go - High wages - has he improved over the years ? ? ? - inability to create trys for winger - admitted himself he'll be an outside back later in his career (will he be as gd ? )
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| Quote ="PHe"If we are open to offers for Ryan (and all players have their price), then I'm glad that Warrington have alledgedly come in for him. Let's now see how much Leeds want him, Hull too seem to have a lot of £ to spend and are making significant changes for 2010. I'm with JK on not entering a bidding war when we want a player, but if we are selling it's a totally different matter.
Anyone want to start the bidding.
If the Wire get him then I wouldn't be suprised to see Ben W involved - it would tick some of these quota boxes ie British and wouldn't he be classed as Wakefield academy trained?'" unlikely leeds will they have just signed a new centre
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| Quote ="The Mighty Trin"Not surprised he's going but I am surprised he's going to Warrington.
Who would we want in exchange or will the money be used to bring in Tronc, Newton and Morrison.'"
Bloody well hope not because by my reckoning we now need
1 maybe 2 wingers
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| Quote ="the original stevo"unlikely leeds will they have just signed a new centre'"
But will need another one if they send Senior the other way??
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"
Bloody well hope not because by my reckoning we now need
1 maybe 2 wingers
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Ainscough (on a year loan.) Penny + give Luke George more time.
Evans, Bridge
Ratchford
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