=#8040BFEmpty warehouses =/= jobs

working from within the construction industry, you would be surprised what you get for your money at the moment.

if cas were sorted, then it would be been built now, but isnt

if wakey was sorted then it would be been built now, but isnt

imo both have left it too late and this latest "we have everything sorted" by both clubs is a bit tiresome.

truth of the matter is, and probably one of the only things both sets of fans can agree on, is that whatever gets built will be death of the other.

this saga, the fact that i will not travel to glasshoughton to watch a "wakefield" home game (and i understand why cas fans won't travel to newmarket) will mean that me and my family will be lost to the game.

if i cannot watch wakefield in wakefield, then i will not watch RL at all.

sad day if this happens as i am currently a big follower of the game, but this will be the nail in the coffin.

Incidently, if the Newmarket Stadium doesn't get built then WMDC are a guarantor for a loan the WDCT took out for the fee of the stadium designs. The value of the loan is £150k. More wasted money?

Speaking in - "My dad's bigger than your dad" mode I think A lot of money has been spent by one party - Cas, and not much at all spent by the other -WTWC
In fact the money for your Design work is from a loan which is guaranteed by those bad people at WMDC

Beat me to it!

See above. Also I would imagine Yorkcourt will have spent a fair few bob too.

It will only be wasted if WDCT do not pay it back to the Co Op Bank

Two or if your lucky three.

Leeds to Ponte or sometimes Goole.

With the wonderful service of on train every two hours on a Sunday.

Its a nightmare around there already with traffic. I have always said it would be a bad move to be a ground there.

I'm not a cas or wakey fan but have lived both in Glasshoughton and Newmarket. I can also see the issues with Newmarket which is why I would have gone for a shared ground at Europort.

Can any cas fan tell me why the work after 7 years has never started at glasshougton.

Have Cas sold the jungle? If not why not stay. 3 sides of the ground are semi decent. Just build a new main stand. plenty of land behind the old one.

Where? I've never ever said we don't need it. It's pretty obvious the £2m from it is part of our funding package. If YOU don't need it, give it to Cas and let us have the £4m.

to be honest 150k in the current carve up is hugely irrelevant.
were stuffed methinks.

Which they won't be able to as they don't have any money. Hence the need for a guarantor in the first place. The loan was secured against the funding being released if/when planning permission was granted.

A railway works like this - you go from "wherever" to Leeds or even Wakfield then get on another train to Glasshougton. See its easy!! you can get to Glasshoughton from anywhere!!, as for the roads I'll say it again there are two ways to the stadium, the main match day route off Jct31 . Its all in the [uAPPROVED[/u plans

=#8000FFSo what if planning permission was refused?

and at this rate we will both be out of SL and dead in the water time to bang some bloody heads togeather and merge times change things move on but the supporters of both clubs dont

They pay it back to the Bank but if they do not have the cash bad old Mr Box comes to the rescue and pays £150,000 to the Co Op Bank. See he isn't all that bad is he?

=#8000FFThe last line is so wrong it's untrue

Surfworld money is for Cas so there's whatever they were putting in, the cost of the Jungle there's more money there then Wakey could dream of putting in, 4m council money then whatever Wakey could afford, the seats will be Amber & Black unless the council pay for them not to be.




=#8040FFThanks for explaining that

the wakey land is valued £2m but was once thought to be worth £8M before the crash, Cas land is of a like value. However this land is not being given as such, it is only being pledged as a capital assest to borrow against. So if cas need this to complete they are going to be in debt before their first game. I also think even with this land they will fall short in their funding.

As for wakey I am still lead to believe we can complete a more modest stadium but still suitable without this pledged land.

Let cas have this land and get on with it, we will get on with Newmarket. Like I have said before our developer is no mug, he owns newmarket and he will develop it eventually, box may slow it down but he will not stop it forever.

Playing at Glasshoughton will kill us off so don't even consider it. One other point who in their right mind believes that the RFL will hand out 2 licences to 2 mid table teams playing in a small town with a 40,000 population.

So yes we are stuffed if we are weak and swallow this Glasshoughton bait. But we still have an excellent developer on board who owns the land at Newmarket so all is not lost we could still come out of this on top.

think your missing the point mate, big style, feasibility studies have an awful knack of proving nothigs feasible! think both sets of fans should face facts. its one ground at best but more than likely none!

You were that busy laughing at my post you forgot to read the first line, so I will write it for you again are you ready and dont laugh please.
Course you've got the funding thats =#BF0000why your ground is getting built, oh wait a minute, Care to comment or do you want to ignore it again.



Would you care to comment on that part of Fully's post

or are you still rolling on the floor laughing. Gaslight you are so full of Kryptonite its unbelievable promise me one thing, you will keep coming on this board because whenever you are down and need cheering up you only have to read the cr@p what comes out of your mouth regarding Stadiums'

If I was a betting man I would have a shilling on you Chappie old boy

Just worked my way through 26 pages of argument and counterarguement. My prediction: neither stadium will be built and neither of us will end up with a franchise. Only a few seem to see the bigger picture that having separate stadiums is never ever going to happen. I may be in a minority but as long as it's with 30 mins drive I don't care where the stadium is as long as I get to watch my team there. The fundamental truth here is unless both clubs can get their respective heads around groundshare, neither are going to happen IMO.

Frankly, if the intransigent views on here are anything to go by we can both forget about SL indefinately. Surely it is not beyond the wit of man to devise a plan which both clubs can support i.e. neutral name, equal partnership, good transport links for both sets of fans.

ATEOTD the survival of both clubs is of paramount importance and to throw that away bickering and refusing to compromise would be a travesty.

This Leeds CC objection you refer to is ONE Councillor. Don't kid yourselves, it would be nice to have him on board but any impact he has on the scheme is tiny.

As for the roads into Glasshoughton your having a laugh surely. There may be two of them but they are feeding Xscape and the retail park and general traffic as well. How congested will they become on a friday match day. Stanley junction is the least used junction on the M62 FACT, so traffic is no issue.

This silly Cas mentallity of trying to big up their own scheme by rubbishing (most of it false) ours is getting tiresome in the extreme. If you want a stadium at Glasshoughton fine, b*gger off an build it WHAT'S STOPPING YOU.

We will do the same at Newmarket so long as the Council offer us the same support - REMEMBER IT'S NOT US WANTING A GROUND SHARE IS IT - so put you money where your mouth is and back both. Thank you.